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October 4th, 2020 22:00

Aurora R8, Case Swap *COMPLETED*

Hi guys,

I just wanted to make a forum post on a success story in swapping the Aurora R8 into a new case. For starters, a new case gives you more access to future upgrades such as a better graphics card as well as better airflow. Many components from the R8 are reusable with a few exceptions. Here are a few pictures:

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Shoutout to Reddit member ZwoukLeBleu and Imgur user xVELGADx, PM me if you want the link to the source

 

What do you need to know about the case swap?

The challenges include knowing how to gain access to the hidden departments not documented by Dell. This includes taking off the top panel (two pieces), side panels (left side and right side), and optionally the front panel. Once all the panels are off, you can grab both the wifi module and the proprietary power LED connector (requires unscrewing for some). This isn’t required (read below) and if needed, you may skip this in favor of getting just the main components.

 

Do you need the wifi module and power led connector?

No these are not required. Thanks to ZwoukLeBleu, the optional way is to use the power SWITCH lead that comes with the case and to place them in the 4th and 5th slot starting from the left (skip the first three). This will allow you to use the power button that comes with the case. The only downside is that the power button won’t light up and that holding down the button to shut down your system doesn’t work. The Wifi module, while transferrable, is not needed if you plan to use a wired connection.

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What are the essential components that are swapped?

Motherboard, data drives, CPU w/ cooler are the main parts that are swapped. If you bought any custom fans or coolers, you may swap them too.

 

What about the power supply?

While you could use the Dell power supply, the case I used is much larger so the cables don’t have enough length. Because of this, I needed to buy a new PSU with longer cables to support the new case

 

Why does my case have 4 fans?

The case I used is an NZXT S340 which two of the fans hook up directly to the power supply via a molex cable. The radiator fan and one of the front fans are still connected to the motherboard. The Alienware motherboard requires that the two fan headers have to be connected or else it will fail to boot. I recommended buying your fans if you want something that’s quieter.

 

Any drawbacks or improvements to doing a case swap?

Better airflow and cable management. But the case swap will also cost extra $ to factor the following:

  • New Case
  • New PSU
  • *Custom fans if you want them

Also, the motherboard back will be exposed since there is no IO shield.  There is a soft foam that you can place on top of it that came with the stock case.

 

There will also be a startup error every time you turn on the machine and this can't be avoided. But clicking 'continue' allows the system to boot normally.

 

Can the case swap work for other Alienware configurations (R6, R7, R9, etc.)

To the best of my knowledge Yes as long as you're willing the time and effort. If you plan to buy a new PC and want different components such as a new motherboard, CPU, etc., I'd probably recommend skipping this as you'd be better off spending the $$ on better components than the stock Alienware.

 

Thank you all!

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October 6th, 2020 07:00

Ok, thanks for that information.  So not done yet for a successful case swap.

So there are two errors that need to be sorted out. 

I thought that might be the case when I did that write up about a year ago on doing that potential R7/R8 case swap.  Those were the two errors that were expected that would need to be addressed for a successful case swap.

1) USB IO error:  fixed with workaround bringing IO unit into case or jumpers + USB PCI-E card.

2) Front panel power error, even with the + and - for the new case power switch working:  Not solved

 

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October 6th, 2020 07:00

@HanoverB 

 

Yes if the Dell front IO or the Dell Power Connector isn't plugged in, it results in a boot-up error. Both would need to be plugged into the motherboard to boot up without any errors. Along with the TOP and FRONT fans.

Using the case power switch will always give a bootup error as well whether the front IO is plugged in or not.

 

 

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October 6th, 2020 08:00

@HanoverB 

Well to me it was successful in terms of moving the motherboard to a new case. But maybe to address your theory

  • Can it boot up without any errors? Yes but requires OEM front IO and power connector to be plugged in. You'd also lose the front USB ports if the case has a USB header plug for it.
  • Can it boot up with the case power switch? Yes but an error will occur at bootup. And for the R8, must be plugged into the 4th and 5th pin slot.
  • Can it boot up with the case power switch and without any errors? No

Now the theory is that if we want to go through all the trouble and get the last question to a "Yes", the answer to that question is the BIOS does require the Alienware LED board. This is also due to the fact that the case LED's aren't plugged in so another piece that's missing. If I had the time to splice off the thing and get it properly aligned, I would. But the bare minimum per se is that we can avoid the necessities and live with the error unless the BIOs can be hacked to get rid of any bootup errors at all costs.

 

But I appreciate you looking into this. The time/effort for a case swap is only worth it if you put everything together correctly. If it was more difficult per se, I'd probably go out and buy a new motherboard which wouldn't be a case swap anymore.

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October 6th, 2020 12:00

@HanoverB

Good thoughts. I've only built one custom PC before and got an R8 for a very good price. I had the NZXT case laying around and didn't know how it would fit or whether it could transfer. By stumbling on the Reddit post, I decided to give it a try. I will say if you want to spend the least amount of time possible, it's all about knowing how to take the stuff out (which was the hardest) and having excellent cable management on the new case. Taking it all off probably took a good couple of hours and putting it together could take another couple hours.

 

Was it worth it? Maybe. My system came with an i7 9700 + RTX 2060 so it's hard to say how long I'll be keeping it. The advantage of keeping the motherboard is you don't have to reinstall windows (my config also included reusing the NVME drive) and that the IO has 9 USBS which is more than some standard motherboards.

 

For anyone else that is thinking about doing it, I can only comment that I wish I had a better case to do it in as the NZXT S340 is a bit outdated. Something like the Lian Li Lancool II has some really cool features such as your drives behind the motherboard and magnetic doors to open up the case. But any Mid/Full Tower case that has good airflow should do.

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October 6th, 2020 12:00

@Gysper 

Thanks for taking it this far.  You've helped a lot.

This type of endeavor is only time consuming for the first person trying to accomplish it.  Once it’s figured out the next person should find it easier.  You've helped in this respect.

The challenge lies in being able to mod a machine to do something that others said couldn’t be done or to make it do better. More often, the mods are done out of necessity because the machine doesn’t do what you want it to do or does it poorly.  These Dell boards are full of that type of case mods.

Others like @Anonymous  take his Dell case mods to a next level.   It took him hours and hours of careful planning to do.  Totally insane.  But the end results were rewarding and he did it for the fun of it.  Following his detailed instructions, the next person can accomplish what he did in a shorter amount of time. 

A full case swap is easy once some basics are understood.  First timers can do it successfully given direction.  It should take around an hour to do the XPS 8930 case swap and have a machine that is perfectly functional without any BIOS errors.  Even less time for the XPS 8910/8920.  The instructions on how to do it is there. It should take you about that same amount of time to do an Alienware R8 case swap because you’ve done it already.   Then it is just depends on how far one wants to go with a modded machine in surpassing the one it is replacing like @Anonymous builds, the mad modders here or the various case swaps of the XPS 8930 into the Phanteks, Fractal, NZXT, Antec and Corsair cases.

It’s fine to leave your machine the way it is, it is functional and accomplishes what you want it to do.   You documented that case swap and the details of what the problems you encountered are.  That is invaluable.  Good work!

The next step would be to see what it would take to get rid of all the BIOS errors so the next person thinking of doing the case swap can make an informed decision on the effort required to do so and what it would entail.  

Someone will take this challenge on eventually and hopefully manage a swap that is error free.

 

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October 6th, 2020 14:00

I was having issues with my new R11 (still going on) and was considering a case swap. How ever when told you mid as well buy a new MB it would make things easier. We I started down that road, once the MB was purchased I simply kept buying parts lol. ended up with a pretty nice PC and adding a new GPU once I can get ahold of a 3080.  You talking about the Lian Li Lancool II sparked my post.. I am still dealing with Dell on the R11 with no luck as of yet. It simply wont run Photoshop and FPS drops hard in games. Any way here is a few images of the build.

 

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October 7th, 2020 03:00

Well Dell630i I simply didn't want to mess with the R11 until me and support stop boxing. I was thinking about buying one for The White Night but simply was trying to keep the build at a lower price gap. To tell you the truth I shouldn't have purchased the R11 but hey now I have 3 really nice PC's

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October 16th, 2020 11:00

Just a quick update: I actually managed to snag an NZXT H510i case and completed a case swap for it. The irony was when swapping the case, I ran into an issue where the PC would shut down immediately. Had to replace the CMOS battery but here's a picture of it. The H510i uses steel and tempered glass and the drives are mounted to the back. Overall, it would be another good case I'd recommend if you're considering a case swap.

 

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October 16th, 2020 18:00

@Anonymous 

Corsair RM850x

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October 16th, 2020 21:00

@Anonymous Looks like it's a clip to secure the wifi module cable. The card is actually an RTX 2060 but the plan is to upgrade to the 3xxx series.

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October 16th, 2020 22:00

@Anonymous My brother who has an RTX 3080 did a test fit and it fits nicely with about 1-2 inches of wiggle room. May have to swap the front radiator to the top but a 3070 is the preferred card. 

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December 3rd, 2020 07:00

@Anonymous 

Well to answer the question:

 

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Snagged a 3070 ASUS Tuf and it fits into the case with room to spare. Also here's a size comparison between the old and new one:

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December 3rd, 2020 10:00

@Anonymous Temps are fine, especially with a larger that has exhaust fans. I'm not sure if the original Alienware case would suffice but happy that the card actually fitted. I believe if anyone wanted to put it inside their Alienware's, better to get the two-fan versions of the card. The Zotac 3070 Twin Edge is probably the smallest of the 3070's while the 3080 FE (saw someone post one) can work too but is currently impossible to get.

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December 4th, 2020 13:00

@Anonymous I thought about this and when I watched a couple of builds on Youtube, all of the front-mounted radiators actually had the tubes at the top. I then realized since the 3070 is much longer, the tubes probably wouldn't have enough room to sit at the bottom without hitting the card.

Nevertheless, the temps are fine and the CPU idles at 30 C. This is actually a huge difference when I had it inside the old Alienware case where it was idling between 35-40 C. I'm sure someone with a better case will have a better solution if they decided to keep all of the OEM stuff, but the moral of this whole post was to show users that a case swap is possible as long as you know some of the limitations (old vs new PSU, using an H60 AIO, power switch, etc)

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