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Pre-Dell Predator 2 Area-51 x58, trying to find command center?

Hey everybody. I know this is a stretch, but I'm desperately searching for the correct version of AWCC for my Legacy Pre-Dell Alienware Predator 2 Area-51 x58. I've searched what seems like everywhere, without any luck. I know this computer is very old, but I'm hoping somebody has the correct version or can make a backup? Any help is appreciated!  

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September 25th, 2022 07:00

Do you have passive or active LED card?

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September 25th, 2022 09:00

Yes that is correct, sorry. When I try to run the installer from the page you linked earlier, it just says "This installation package is not compatible with this platform"

Running Windows 7 x64

Also tried running it in compatibility mode for vista and XP

Any ideas?

 

Edit: I also have come to the conclusion that the lighting daughterboard is detected as TUSB3410 Boot Device, and I cannot get any drivers to work with it.

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September 25th, 2022 09:00

by Legacy Alienware Area 51 x58, you probably meant predator2 Area 51.

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September 25th, 2022 10:00

Dell does not keep the predator AWCC download.  When Dell acquired AW, for a while they were still selling the predator X58 pc, but really never considered them true Dell, so the support got dropped pretty soon.  Given so many users still collect and run the predator P2 cases, just hope some user still has the legacy software that they can upload and share.

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September 25th, 2022 10:00


@squidud wrote:

Yes that is correct, sorry. When I try to run the installer from the page you linked earlier, it just says "This installation package is not compatible with this platform"

Running Windows 7 x64

Also tried running it in compatibility mode for vista and XP

Any ideas?

 

Edit: I also have come to the conclusion that the lighting daughterboard is detected as TUSB3410 Boot Device, and I cannot get any drivers to work with it.


No, sorry ... we do not have that here. See my post in this thread for more info:

https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/vintage-computing/m-p/8270530/highlight/true#M62675

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September 25th, 2022 11:00

On Dell driver support, these are considered by Dell legacy Alienware models, which do not include predator 2.

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September 25th, 2022 15:00

I don't mess w/ Pre-Dell Aliens, but I've kept this link bookmarked over the years, it's to a CmndCntr version someone posted, all are welcome to try it out but I have no input here other than the link & screencapture of the files hosted there

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September 25th, 2022 16:00

The download links are still good. 

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September 25th, 2022 17:00

Progress! This is the first thing to actually install without any errors, however the lighting card still isn't detected. I appreciate these files, but still nothing works. I wonder if there was a separate driver for it on the original recovery disk? 

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September 25th, 2022 17:00

Like all AlienFx, when there is no light, check whether there is good usb2.0 connection between motherboard and alienFx daughter board.  Go inside dev manager to see if it detects a human interaction device. If it does, when you unplug usb 2.0 cable, that device should disappear from dev mgr.  also go inside AWCC folder to look for an alienfxtester.exe there is ever one in the old file.

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September 25th, 2022 18:00

That is why lights do not work.  Just the yellow arrow sign itself means it does not detect the daughterboard correctly as Human Interaction Device (HID compliant vendor defined device as shown in example).  This hardware connection (good talking bth mobo and dgtboard) is prerequisite of successful run of AlienFx software.  It seems you may have to try a different daughter board if they still sell such old component.  But before that try a clean Windows 10 install while leaving the daughterboard disconnected.  After install, connect daughterboard usb cable to mobo again.  This may not work to solve the problem but worth a try.  Your current issue is not AWCC software but hardware recognition by Windows.  If possible try installing old Windows such as 7, vista or XP to see if it helps detect the board correctly.  Just make sure you disconnect the dgtboard during OS install and then reconnect afterwards.  If you have multiple hdd just swap them with a different Windows OS installed on each.  again no promise this would work.

Re: TUSB3410 Boot Device.  Another user of X58 reported same error with AlienFX card ELC Active Card PC051102 Rev 05_1

 

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The USB connection seems fine and when plugged in, it shows up in device manager (not as human interaction device, though. It showed up as "TUSB3410 Boot Device" for whatever reason and has a yellow error sign with an error saying no driver. alienfxtester seems to not see the board at all and gives an error. I really appreciate your help in trying to troubleshoot this.

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September 25th, 2022 18:00

I see, that makes sense. I'll start looking for a replacement. I'll also try forcing it to use the HID compliant device driver as well just for kicks. It won't be for a few days though.

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September 25th, 2022 21:00

A few Pre-Dell owners hang out at Alienware Discord, ask around there if you dead-end here

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September 25th, 2022 23:00

Please upload a pic of your P2 case daughterboard.  the official name is ELC Board FX Light Card.  there are two types: passive (PC051103) and active (PC051102).

AlienFX hardware comprises three components:

  1. LED lights in clusters around the case to allow multiple leds to turn on to provide various colors. These connect to the ELC Motherboard via what look like PATA cable connectors. There are three PATA headers on the ELC MB.
  2. An ELC motherboard which connects the LED light wires, power, and a USB connection to the ELC daughter card which contains all the active components.
  3. An ELC daughter card which connects to the ELC MB with an angled connector similar to an SODIMM connector, if not exactly an SODIMM connector.

ELC daughter card (passive PC051103) installed in mother card

NEW Alienware ALIENFX Light kit ELC Passive Card PC051103 - MISC-LIGHTELCPDP

Partha’s Tutorial to set up Alienware light kit 08-06-2009, 03:11 AM

Alienware Light kit consists of a base bigger backend mother card and a small front-end daughter card that fits inside the bigger card. This card is known as ELC Board FX Light Card. This back end card looks like this.

This back end an ELC Board FX Light mother card comes in two revisions – Revision 4 or Revision 5. In this tutorial I will refer to them as Rev 4 or Rev 5. I am not fully sure about the difference between Rev 4 and Rev 5 back end cards. However as Alien Andy of this forum notes that the major difference between the two is that the Rev 4 card have a black wire soldered to the underside.

Now the front end daughter card are of 2 types. These cards sit inside the mother card when installed
a) An active card and
b) A Passive card

This is an active card ELC Active Card PC051102 (has IC chips, use software to control led)

below is a passive card (no chips, use hardware dip switch to control lights)

Passive card are easier to use because they have less connections to connect and doesn’t need any Alienware software.

In a passive card, there are 3 dip switches in the left hand bottom corner using which you can change the colour of your light.

More on how to use the light DIP switches to change the colours later. Active card have the advantage that you can change the colour of the lights using an Alienware software.

Connections – Part I – The Base connections

This is base connection in after you put the back end mother card into the base of the Alinware case, slot the smaller daughter card inside. Right now don’t worry about what type of daughter card you have. Just do these connections. Right now what you do is

1. Connect the white Alienware proprietary ribbons to the appropriate Right, Left and Front panels. 

2. Connect the molex connector to the PSU. Dont worry about connecting the HDD/Power LEDS and the USB OUT and USB IN pins now.

Connections – Part II a – for both active and passive daughter cards

The basic principle for connecting the HDD/Power LED connectors on the back end mother ELC Board FX Light card to the HDD/Power Header pins in your motherboard is as follows :

1. The HDD LED pin from the backend mother card needs to be connected to the HDD header pin ( more precisely HD Led + ) in Motherboard Front Panel.

2. The Power LED pin from the backend card needs to be connected to the PWR LED header pin + in motherboard.  

Make sure that while you are connecting, that the + and – of the pins are not interchanged.

For those Alienware that supply the necessary connector, this connector make look either one of two types.

Rev 4 connecting wire has 2 wires, one red and one blue in color. Rev 5 connecting wire have 3 wires having green, black and white color.

NOW, if your system is a passive daughter card based system, your tutorial ends here, just check the 2 tutorial end notes. Active daughter card based system owners please continue to read.

Connections – Part II b – Only if you have an active card

For a Rev 4 based system, you first have to complete all connections as said in Connections Part I and Part II a above. Then you have to:
– connect the USB IN of the backend card to the USB connector on the motherboard
– connect the USB OUT to the Alienware Front case panel USB wire

Active card in Rev 4 backend w USB connected

This connection scheme is shown in the following image

For Rev 5 Based systems, besides the above USB IN and USB OUT connections, you have to connect the two pins marked as 24 pin connector in the image to the 24 pin connector on the motherboard. Credit goes to stangtjk of this forums for pointing this out. The connection scheme for Rev 5 based system then becomes as follows

This is what stangtjk says about this 24 pin connection ” I’m assuming this is where most people are having a problem, the white two pin plug has a black and purple wire that go to the 24pin connector on the mother board. The purple wire goes into the 4th pin down from the top on the inside row and the black goes in the 6th. They have a special 24pin extension for those 2 wires but you shouldn’t have a problem just splicing them in to the 24 pin from the psu. ”

Remember, don’t try this 24 pin connection is Rev 4 based systems, or may fry your light kit.

Tutorial Endnotes

1. Make sure you do NOT connect the Molex connector hanging off the left case panel fan to anything. It doesn’t need connection. DONT connect it.

2. This is where I try to explain how to use the 3 DIP switches in a passive daughter card to change the color of lights in your system. There are three micro switches on the ELC board located at the inside base of the case.
Each is numbered 1 to 3. Make sure you

– Switch OFF your PC each time you set the colours.

– Move the switches with a ballpoint pen or a toothpick , NOT a screwdriver. Be gentle. Otherwise you may break the DIP switches.

The colour and switch order is :-

1,2,3 Down = Off
1,2,3 Up = Light Blue
1,2 Up, & 3 Down = Turquoise
1,3 Up, & 2 Down = Purple
1,3 Down, & 2 Up = Green
1 Down,2,3 Up = Yellow
1,2 Down, & 3 Up = Red
2,3 Down, & 1 Up = Blue






For more information check out these threads

Alien Andy Alien FX Set up Guide

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Hi
I am looking for an active card PC051102 for my system. So far unsuccessfully, do you have information where I could get it.

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