Intel's response (what you call a patch) is simply to disable undervolting. Starting with the 10th generation CPUs, it's not just disabled at the firmware level -- it's disabled at the silicon level in the CPU die.
As for the rest, it's never going to happen that way. Intel has raised the maximum temperature limits to 100 C, and system manufacturers use that as a guideline. Apple responded in its own way by phasing out Intel chips; others are going with AMD -- and in a business sense, if these systems start dying off in the next year or so, it'll open up a ready market for the new 10 nm Alder Lake processors that will be phased in late 2021-early 2022.
Hi @ejn63 back in 2019, Intel released a patch for the infamous Plundervolt vulnerability found in Intel 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th generation processors, alongside Xeon Processor E3 v5 and v6, and Xeon Processor E-2100 and E-2200. The Intel solution was supposed to arrive in March 2020.
Why is Dell still fixated on disablement of Intel CPU undervolt, when these Intel CPUs run very hot and Dell cooling system inadequate, for what is still advertised as a gaming pc? Dell should be giving Alienware customers a massive refund and/or free upgrade to AMD CPU system.
Despite Dell's best endeavour's, there are Dell Community threads that show how to roll back the BIOS update version. It is unfortunate that Dell does not deploy plain English warnings in their updates, so that users can decide to pause BIOS updates, etc.
So many things are wrong with your statements, it was a Dell update that disabled undervolting, it was also a Dell BIOS update (ver. 1.13 and 1.14) that enabled undervolting again for other systems. It's also Dell's BIOS that won't let us downgrade some systems while others can.
We should either receive the same BIOS update that enabled undervolting again or let us downgrade.
Exactly, that proves my point, something I already knew by the way, what do you think Dell is? Go read the forums for a while, go check out reddit, everything I said is the truth, some systems received an update that enabled undervolting again. Stop beign such a fanboy, you're not helping at all...
ejn63
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This should be directed at the proper source; it's Intel that decided to lock down undervolting.
ejn63
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Intel's response (what you call a patch) is simply to disable undervolting. Starting with the 10th generation CPUs, it's not just disabled at the firmware level -- it's disabled at the silicon level in the CPU die.
As for the rest, it's never going to happen that way. Intel has raised the maximum temperature limits to 100 C, and system manufacturers use that as a guideline. Apple responded in its own way by phasing out Intel chips; others are going with AMD -- and in a business sense, if these systems start dying off in the next year or so, it'll open up a ready market for the new 10 nm Alder Lake processors that will be phased in late 2021-early 2022.
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Hi @ejn63 back in 2019, Intel released a patch for the infamous Plundervolt vulnerability found in Intel 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th generation processors, alongside Xeon Processor E3 v5 and v6, and Xeon Processor E-2100 and E-2200. The Intel solution was supposed to arrive in March 2020.
Why is Dell still fixated on disablement of Intel CPU undervolt, when these Intel CPUs run very hot and Dell cooling system inadequate, for what is still advertised as a gaming pc? Dell should be giving Alienware customers a massive refund and/or free upgrade to AMD CPU system.
Despite Dell's best endeavour's, there are Dell Community threads that show how to roll back the BIOS update version. It is unfortunate that Dell does not deploy plain English warnings in their updates, so that users can decide to pause BIOS updates, etc.
DemonicLink
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So many things are wrong with your statements, it was a Dell update that disabled undervolting, it was also a Dell BIOS update (ver. 1.13 and 1.14) that enabled undervolting again for other systems. It's also Dell's BIOS that won't let us downgrade some systems while others can.
We should either receive the same BIOS update that enabled undervolting again or let us downgrade.
ejn63
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May 26th, 2021 12:00
I would put aside your agenda long enough to read the following.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-and-OEMs-have-killed-undervolting-and-there-is-little-that-you-can-do-about-it.477330.0.html
DemonicLink
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Exactly, that proves my point, something I already knew by the way, what do you think Dell is? Go read the forums for a while, go check out reddit, everything I said is the truth, some systems received an update that enabled undervolting again. Stop beign such a fanboy, you're not helping at all...
speedstep
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May 26th, 2021 12:00
I bought an M2 mac mini with 16 gigs of unified Ram.
Its fine but Its ARM so there is no bootcamp or windows.