Just double-click on that new Setpoint .exe. It'll probably ask if you want to remove the older version before installing the new one. I updated Setpoint on my 8400 for for an MX1000 mouse, but I don't remember if it asked. Assuming it asks, let it uninstall the old files first.
BTW: if Setpoint doesn't give you enough options to set all the buttons on the mouse, go to this link and see if there are "uberOptions" for the G7. Some guy independently developed files with lots! more options than Logitech offers in Setpoint and they work great on my MX1000.
http://forums.logigamer.com/viewtopic.php?t=142
Exactly what USB errors are you getting? You may need to uninstall all USB entries in Device Manager and then reboot. XP will reinstall the USB ports. If that doesn't fix the errors, you may want to run a system file check.
Hey thanks Ron for reply earlier this wk, apologies i read it not sooner.
Well i got Setpoint sorted after some other dramas. Used Add/Remove etc. Seems ok.
Shall definitely check out the link you have posted.
The USB errors on my 8400; Various shutdown msgs plus a BSoD and several instances of nothing at boot (except a buzzy, non-Dell-beep round back). Devices implicated (by file association) include UPS and game controller adapters. I have lots of USB stuff, and when the machine wont even boot, it always comes right after removing a plug or 2.
In your post you've mentioned uninstalling USB in devmgr. I find the USB list in devmgr VERY confusing, are you able to describe what you mean? Do i need to unplug any/all beforehand?
The list i have has:
-Generic USB hub (x2)
-Univ Host controller (x4)
-USB2 Enhanced Host controller
-USB Composite device (x3)
-USB Root hub (x5)
So would i.. right click >uninstall? Safe to do, is it?
Just to be safe, manually set a System Restore point on your system, then disconnect all USB devices except keyboard and mouse, if you have those. Expand list under USB in Device Manager. Right-click each item under USB and select Uninstall. When all USB entries are removed, exit Device Manager and reboot. XP will reinstall the USB drivers. This procedure does not remove drivers for individual USB peripherals like printers, modems, etc but usually fixes many USB problems.
As for the buzz around the back, could that be video card fan revving when system fails to boot and doesn't load video card driver which normally controls the card's fan? If it fails to boot and implicates UPS and game controllers, you may need to uninstall/reinstall those drivers.
Also, run BIOS setup (press F2 before XP starts to load) and make sure option that says "USB-NO BOOT" is enabled. That prevents BIOS from looking at USB devices before booting, especially when it expects to find something that you unplugged. And/or only unplug USB devices while the system is running so it detects the disconnect, rather than doing it while it's off because it may go looking for the missing device.
Sorry not post results earlier, had quite a fortnight towards the end of which i was able to take your advice:
Since i could not determine which USB entry was which i dusted off the PS/2 k+m and added em one at a time (removed later), and then went thru the procedure you outlined (the setting for 'USB- NO BOOT' did the trick i think) and now its working well with all devices connected. I hope the re-installed game controller has no drama- yet to fully test the dodgy thing.
Before any of that i had a replacement board and psu arrive and be installed,flashed etc (none of which fixed the USB prollem by the way) and a day after using the fix you posted, i got locked in the computer by ZoneAlarm (i still cant really work it out) and i wondered what was next..
Well those would be the short versions(!)- but thnx again for assistance that certainly worked.
SicO,
You seem to have had your share of PC troubles lately!
Don't quite understand what the ZoneAlarm issue is now. But try booting in safe mode (press F8 before XP starts to load). Manually set a System Restore poin and then uninstall ZoneAlarm. There apparantly were some problems reported with ZoneAlarm v6.1.744.001, if that's what you have. I've been using it without problems so it can be made to run. I turned off McAfee antiviral software before installing it and so far, so good.
The 8400 is really working quite well -presently- the user maybe dysfunctional though.
Yeah.. about the ZA (v6.1.737.000 apparently) it seems i needed to change a setting down to low from default medium so it could 'learn' or something. Even with the security on low the popups did not thin out much- so Ive taken to shutting it down manually if i need to and will definitely tryn sort it later but..
Now, there's an x800 arriving here tomorrow plus 2048mb next wk -all which would help absolutely- except i might not have researched things properly ho hum the length of the card oh deary me I hope these Dimensions have got leg room:
It might fit. I dont really have a plan yet. This is all getting new to me.. may have developed bargain-hunting blindness.. Ive not found another 8400 user with this particular card inn it.
Can I ask what you think, Ron? Is that cooling extrapolation going to impede installation- I took some photos but not measurements last time i was in there, typically the wrong angle.
Sic0Au - That's one mean looking video card! From the pix at that link, it looks like the fan extends out from the card on the side that's inside the case. So it's going to depend on what's in front of the PCI-e 16X slot. From the diagram I have of the 8400 mobo, it might be the hard drive when you close the case, but I don't know for certain if that will be a problem.
I hope you have an empty PCI slot because this board looks to be double-wide which means you won't be able to put anything in the PCI slot directly next to the PCI-e slot.
Seems im spit roasting mony rather.. ive only half paid for the
rest of the Dell yet so there :\
Card is a cheapy but recyclable in these parts, still expect it to arrive this aftenoon, and Monday a.m would be unbearable really. Id have to measure in that case ^pardon pun.
As for RAM the price was good (260) especially compared to here in the Southern Hemo. A couple peculiarities amongst that ordering process which i'll not detail until i got the stuff.
Got some printing ahead- all those different steps for the card/driver changes an im not confident in these things hey.
Just a note to say the card fit fine (dunno what i was so worried about), but yet to test (i fumbled by allowing the old Catalyst driver to be installed despite having the latest ones all set to go) and Im in the middle of sorting it now...
The people have charged my card for the RAM but are claiming some type of 'address issue' !!
That must hav been what im so worried about. Money to burn alright.
Thx again for all previous assisstance Ron and I'll post any upcoming calamitys in the most appropriate sections.
Just wanted to follow up with the results of the endeavors: All went well except that purchase of RAM!
I got some now but i thought i better describe to someone about my experience with Cru*ial.
-Clicked on the RAM i wanted then the usual cart business showed up.
-A page appeared saying something like: ".. a problem has occurred with your order, please check 'cookies' ..or some rot.
-I go back and start again about 20 seconds later and BANG- the price had gone up!!!
Not a veteran net user, but this sounds underhanded to me. Anyway, the transaction fell thru for other reasons (luckily) so i bought OCZ Value Pro and it goes great.
That Expenditure Machine kept rolling too- got a Dvico HDTV tuner (USB ver) and a nice OCZ Rally flash 1gb also.
The video card is really good- even though it obstructed my last PCI slot.
RoHe
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BTW: if Setpoint doesn't give you enough options to set all the buttons on the mouse, go to this link and see if there are "uberOptions" for the G7. Some guy independently developed files with lots! more options than Logitech offers in Setpoint and they work great on my MX1000.
http://forums.logigamer.com/viewtopic.php?t=142
Exactly what USB errors are you getting? You may need to uninstall all USB entries in Device Manager and then reboot. XP will reinstall the USB ports. If that doesn't fix the errors, you may want to run a system file check.
Ron
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Hey thanks Ron for reply earlier this wk, apologies i read it not sooner.
Well i got Setpoint sorted after some other dramas. Used Add/Remove etc. Seems ok.
Shall definitely check out the link you have posted.
The USB errors on my 8400; Various shutdown msgs plus a BSoD and several instances of nothing at boot (except a buzzy, non-Dell-beep round back). Devices implicated (by file association) include UPS and game controller adapters. I have lots of USB stuff, and when the machine wont even boot, it always comes right after removing a plug or 2.
In your post you've mentioned uninstalling USB in devmgr. I find the USB list in devmgr VERY confusing, are you able to describe what you mean? Do i need to unplug any/all beforehand?
The list i have has:
So would i.. right click >uninstall? Safe to do, is it?
Does this remove any drivers/software?
Thanks again for reply and help provided,
Sic0
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Just to be safe, manually set a System Restore point on your system, then disconnect all USB devices except keyboard and mouse, if you have those. Expand list under USB in Device Manager. Right-click each item under USB and select Uninstall. When all USB entries are removed, exit Device Manager and reboot. XP will reinstall the USB drivers. This procedure does not remove drivers for individual USB peripherals like printers, modems, etc but usually fixes many USB problems.
As for the buzz around the back, could that be video card fan revving when system fails to boot and doesn't load video card driver which normally controls the card's fan? If it fails to boot and implicates UPS and game controllers, you may need to uninstall/reinstall those drivers.
Also, run BIOS setup (press F2 before XP starts to load) and make sure option that says "USB-NO BOOT" is enabled. That prevents BIOS from looking at USB devices before booting, especially when it expects to find something that you unplugged. And/or only unplug USB devices while the system is running so it detects the disconnect, rather than doing it while it's off because it may go looking for the missing device.
Ron
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Hey Ron,
Those sound like sound ideas, i shall get onto them my next session. I wonder does this stuff relate in some way to 'USB registry keys' ?
And Ive looked over the thread at LogiGamers, in the frenzied search for;
-[G7 thumb-click DPI toggle/cycle]-
but i might have harboured a pipe dream there.. A good link though and one well worth mentioning.
Thnx for the detailed help RoHe, will post any results.
Sic0
04:20..time for a rest
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Hello to Ron
-if you are still about!-
Sorry not post results earlier, had quite a fortnight towards the end of which i was able to take your advice:
Since i could not determine which USB entry was which i dusted off the PS/2 k+m and added em one at a time (removed later), and then went thru the procedure you outlined (the setting for 'USB- NO BOOT' did the trick i think) and now its working well with all devices connected. I hope the re-installed game controller has no drama- yet to fully test the dodgy thing.
Before any of that i had a replacement board and psu arrive and be installed,flashed etc (none of which fixed the USB prollem by the way) and a day after using the fix you posted, i got locked in the computer by ZoneAlarm (i still cant really work it out) and i wondered what was next..
Well those would be the short versions(!)- but thnx again for assistance that certainly worked.
Sic0
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You seem to have had your share of PC troubles lately!
Don't quite understand what the ZoneAlarm issue is now. But try booting in safe mode (press F8 before XP starts to load). Manually set a System Restore poin and then uninstall ZoneAlarm. There apparantly were some problems reported with ZoneAlarm v6.1.744.001, if that's what you have. I've been using it without problems so it can be made to run. I turned off McAfee antiviral software before installing it and so far, so good.
Ron
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Can I ask what you think, Ron? Is that cooling extrapolation going to impede installation- I took some photos but not measurements last time i was in there, typically the wrong angle.
Much reading to be done. Rest to be had.
Thx again to Ron for your time.
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I hope you have an empty PCI slot because this board looks to be double-wide which means you won't be able to put anything in the PCI slot directly next to the PCI-e slot.
You must have $ to burn!
Ron
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Hi Ron- Sorry for posting on this old thread!
Just wanted to follow up with the results of the endeavors: All went well except that purchase of RAM!
I got some now but i thought i better describe to someone about my experience with Cru*ial.
-Clicked on the RAM i wanted then the usual cart business showed up.
-A page appeared saying something like: ".. a problem has occurred with your order, please check 'cookies' ..or some rot.
-I go back and start again about 20 seconds later and BANG- the price had gone up!!!
Not a veteran net user, but this sounds underhanded to me. Anyway, the transaction fell thru for other reasons (luckily) so i bought OCZ Value Pro and it goes great.
That Expenditure Machine kept rolling too- got a Dvico HDTV tuner (USB ver) and a nice OCZ Rally flash 1gb also.
The video card is really good- even though it obstructed my last PCI slot.
Well thanx again Ron for the help you provided.
Sic0
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Ron