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1) I am curious to know what you are doing to prevent this ( and i am looking for something substantial, i am tired of empty promises and so are my customers who experienced an outage).
2) OneFS Patch-14873 - Do you know what that patch does, do you know what version of OneFS does it apply to ? I sure don't , so what's the point of sending this out without accompanying release notes or some kind of bulletin that explains what it's for. I am not going to download every single patch, un-tar it and look for the readme file.
I recently noticed that our Release Notes are changing so the Major Release and MR notes are in the same document. Is this change going to be the new standard for all new OneFS releases?
Thanks for your question about patches. We've been looking into ways to improve our patch communication process, so your feedback is greatly appreciated. In regards to part 2 of your question, I agree that downloading a patch from the EMC Product Update email to simply learn about it is not convenient. To find basic information about a patch, I wanted to share some options that are available from the EMC Online Support site.
Option 1: Go to EMC Online Support site and search for the patch. In the search results, you’ll see a short description about the fix the patch contains, as well as the OneFS version number that it applies to. This is a quick way to learn about the patch at a glance. The read me information will still need to be extracted from the tar file. We’re working with our patch team on ways to make the read me file more accessible.
Option 2: You can refer to the Current Isilon OneFS patches PDF document on the EMC Online Support site. This document is updated every Wednesday with new patch information (including patch summaries, OneFS versions, and release dates). To find your patch of interest you’ll need to search within the PDF.
It sounds like a better user experience will be to change the patch link in the EMC Product Update email. I’ll investigate with the EMC Online Support team about ways to update this link in the email template. Do you have a preference for what it should link to?
Also, to help me better understand how to improve our patch communication process, how do you prefer to receive patch updates? Is email the most convenient way to learn about new patches, or is there another channel you would prefer?
Thanks for your question! Yes, this will be the new standard for release notes from OneFS 7.1.1 and later. The decision to redesign the release notes was based on user feedback and testing. More information about the redesign is provided in this blog post: http://isiblog.emc.com/2015/07/all-about-improving-emc-isilon-onefs-release-notes/
Do you have any feedback about the new release note format? We’d love to hear what you think!
i don't like neither option as it requires that i need to login to the support website and search for information for that specific patch. If i subscribe to daily notification about product updates that is delivered to my inbox that it should not have to login to the website and search around. I am thinking of two options:
1) In the same product update email, have a separate link to the readme file that is contained in the tar file (in format readable on a windows machine). I click on the link in my email and it takes me directly to the content of the patch, no hunting around the support website.
2) Provide just the link to the readme file, where it explains what the patch does and also provides a link where to download the file.
In either option if you can specify the version of OneFS it applies that will help me determine if i should even look at it. For example:
Isilon OneFS 7.1.1 - SMB - patch 143873
So this tells me what version it's applicable to, if i am running 7.2 i don't even bother looking at it. Then if it says what "protocol" or "functionality" it impacts it's another clue, if i run OneFS 7.1.1 but only use NFS protocol then it's very likely i will not bother installing the patch or at least it's won't be as urgent.
I really like the new format! The part that I am enjoying the most is any new change is in a section with other related changes, like this example from the OneFS 7.2.0.0-7.2.0.3 release notes!
Are there any plans to create an instructional video for other Isilon add-in products (like the one that was done for Superna)? Specifically, are there any in the works for InsightIQ or antivirus?
We don't have any plans to create one for antivirus, but I'll add it to the list of candidates. Are there any other video topics you think would be useful?
For IIQ - could we get a new video highlighting version 3.2. I know there have been some awesome new features and back end functionality that was changed.
As for other topics, I would LOVE to see something on antivirus as well as the OneFS API options (including Swift if available).
Thanks for the link to the playlist. I still have so many of those videos to watch; they really have great information!
Was just offering up a quick alternative that I use for the time being. Nothing more then a bookmarked page and find on the .pdf.
It does sound like Kristen has forwarded the request onto the correct team to address the immediate needed information being available in the e-mail notification that is sent out.
Yes, It does require login (please note below as to why) but, it does go over all the information you are requesting. It gives Patch-ID, Summary, what version it applies to, what version it's fixed in or if it's patch only for the fix, and release date.
When I'm looking for known issues effecting clusters, I always utilize the find function in the .pdf document viewer (CTRL+f) Then type or copy and paste the patch number to get more information around it.
From the sounds of it your looking to get something similar to above link as a snippet when patches are released in the e-mail Eg:
Patch-ID
Summary
Applies to
Fixed in
Released
Patch-154603
This patch addresses multiple issues that affect SMB2 symbolic links.
This patch deprecates Patch-151610 and Patch-154168.
7.2.0.2
Fixed by patch only
July 6, 2015
Currently all patches require a valid support contract so you will need to log in to the support website to review the patch information, and download any patches, and it is currently the reason there is such limited information supplied in the email.
I only want to login if it applies to my version of OneFS or functionality that i use. The reason i subscribe to email notification is so that information comes to me, not me going to the support website and looking for stuff.
I'm passing your patch feedback to the team that generates EMC Product Support emails. I'll let them know that adding basic information, such as OneFS versions, to the patch number in those emails will make it much easier for customers to more quickly determine if a patch is relevant to them.
I manage many different EMC platforms so i subscribe to different product notifications. When i get the daily email with product updates it's typically a pretty long list so i need to be able to quickly skim through the list to determine what applies to my environment and what does not.
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July 27th, 2015 07:00
Hello,
1) I am curious to know what you are doing to prevent this ( and i am looking for something substantial, i am tired of empty promises and so are my customers who experienced an outage).
Change in ABE behavior in OneFS 7.1.1
2) OneFS Patch-14873 - Do you know what that patch does, do you know what version of OneFS does it apply to ? I sure don't , so what's the point of sending this out without accompanying release notes or some kind of bulletin that explains what it's for. I am not going to download every single patch, un-tar it and look for the readme file.
Thank you
johnsonka
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July 27th, 2015 08:00
Hello Everyone!
I recently noticed that our Release Notes are changing so the Major Release and MR notes are in the same document. Is this change going to be the new standard for all new OneFS releases?
kirsten_gantenb
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July 27th, 2015 15:00
Hi dynamox,
Thanks for your question about patches. We've been looking into ways to improve our patch communication process, so your feedback is greatly appreciated. In regards to part 2 of your question, I agree that downloading a patch from the EMC Product Update email to simply learn about it is not convenient. To find basic information about a patch, I wanted to share some options that are available from the EMC Online Support site.
It sounds like a better user experience will be to change the patch link in the EMC Product Update email. I’ll investigate with the EMC Online Support team about ways to update this link in the email template. Do you have a preference for what it should link to?
Also, to help me better understand how to improve our patch communication process, how do you prefer to receive patch updates? Is email the most convenient way to learn about new patches, or is there another channel you would prefer?
Thanks!
Kirsten
kirsten_gantenb
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July 27th, 2015 15:00
Hi Katie,
Thanks for your question! Yes, this will be the new standard for release notes from OneFS 7.1.1 and later. The decision to redesign the release notes was based on user feedback and testing. More information about the redesign is provided in this blog post: http://isiblog.emc.com/2015/07/all-about-improving-emc-isilon-onefs-release-notes/
Do you have any feedback about the new release note format? We’d love to hear what you think!
Thanks!
Kirsten
dynamox
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July 28th, 2015 05:00
Kirsten,
i don't like neither option as it requires that i need to login to the support website and search for information for that specific patch. If i subscribe to daily notification about product updates that is delivered to my inbox that it should not have to login to the website and search around. I am thinking of two options:
1) In the same product update email, have a separate link to the readme file that is contained in the tar file (in format readable on a windows machine). I click on the link in my email and it takes me directly to the content of the patch, no hunting around the support website.
2) Provide just the link to the readme file, where it explains what the patch does and also provides a link where to download the file.
In either option if you can specify the version of OneFS it applies that will help me determine if i should even look at it. For example:
Isilon OneFS 7.1.1 - SMB - patch 143873
So this tells me what version it's applicable to, if i am running 7.2 i don't even bother looking at it. Then if it says what "protocol" or "functionality" it impacts it's another clue, if i run OneFS 7.1.1 but only use NFS protocol then it's very likely i will not bother installing the patch or at least it's won't be as urgent.
Thoughts ?
johnsonka
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July 28th, 2015 10:00
Kirsten,
I really like the new format! The part that I am enjoying the most is any new change is in a section with other related changes, like this example from the OneFS 7.2.0.0-7.2.0.3 release notes!
johnsonka
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July 28th, 2015 10:00
This question is for Andre,
Are there any plans to create an instructional video for other Isilon add-in products (like the one that was done for Superna)? Specifically, are there any in the works for InsightIQ or antivirus?
amozza
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July 28th, 2015 11:00
Hi Katie,
We have two videos already for InsightIQ:
We don't have any plans to create one for antivirus, but I'll add it to the list of candidates. Are there any other video topics you think would be useful?
Also, you can check out the full list of videos on the Isilon Support playlist. We just added a new one for node compatibility in OneFS 7.2 and 7.2.1, and two "Decode the Node" videos for the new X210 and NL410 platforms.
johnsonka
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July 28th, 2015 12:00
Hello Andre,
For IIQ - could we get a new video highlighting version 3.2. I know there have been some awesome new features and back end functionality that was changed.
As for other topics, I would LOVE to see something on antivirus as well as the OneFS API options (including Swift if available).
Thanks for the link to the playlist. I still have so many of those videos to watch; they really have great information!
Stdekart
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July 28th, 2015 14:00
dyanamox,
Was just offering up a quick alternative that I use for the time being. Nothing more then a bookmarked page and find on the .pdf.
It does sound like Kristen has forwarded the request onto the correct team to address the immediate needed information being available in the e-mail notification that is sent out.
Stdekart
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July 28th, 2015 14:00
dynamox,
Where you able to take a peek at the link Kirsten posted?
https://support.emc.com/docu50781_Current-Isilon-OneFS-Patches.pdf?language=en_US
Yes, It does require login (please note below as to why) but, it does go over all the information you are requesting. It gives Patch-ID, Summary, what version it applies to, what version it's fixed in or if it's patch only for the fix, and release date.
When I'm looking for known issues effecting clusters, I always utilize the find function in the .pdf document viewer (CTRL+f) Then type or copy and paste the patch number to get more information around it.
From the sounds of it your looking to get something similar to above link as a snippet when patches are released in the e-mail Eg:
Patch-ID
Summary
Applies to
Fixed in
Released
Patch-154603
This patch addresses multiple issues that affect SMB2 symbolic links.
This patch deprecates Patch-151610 and Patch-154168.
7.2.0.2
Fixed by patch only
July 6, 2015
Currently all patches require a valid support contract so you will need to log in to the support website to review the patch information, and download any patches, and it is currently the reason there is such limited information supplied in the email.
dynamox
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July 28th, 2015 14:00
Shane,
I only want to login if it applies to my version of OneFS or functionality that i use. The reason i subscribe to email notification is so that information comes to me, not me going to the support website and looking for stuff.
kirsten_gantenb
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July 28th, 2015 14:00
Hi dynamox,
I'm passing your patch feedback to the team that generates EMC Product Support emails. I'll let them know that adding basic information, such as OneFS versions, to the patch number in those emails will make it much easier for customers to more quickly determine if a patch is relevant to them.
Thanks,
Kirsten
dynamox
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July 28th, 2015 15:00
Shane,
I manage many different EMC platforms so i subscribe to different product notifications. When i get the daily email with product updates it's typically a pretty long list so i need to be able to quickly skim through the list to determine what applies to my environment and what does not.