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November 18th, 2007 05:00

Inspiron 1501 video problems

Have had this laptop about 3 months now and unable to get any support from Dell on this. I have sent numberous emails, done the live chat, tried calling the support line. I never hear back from emails, the live chat people keep telling me to format (which i have done 7 times), and calling is about useful as my original thought of Dell being a worthy company to buy products from.
Inspiron 1501
amd64x2
2gb ram
windows vista
igp radeon 1150 (shipping label says 256mb, system says 128mb)
120gb hd
 
my problems are mainly revolving around the video card constantly uninstalling the driver, unable to - update driver, find driver, card errors, visual - multi colour display lines, static, blue screen, white n black screen, solid black screenw ith small green blue red box in lower right corner, or card erros reset puter so i ahve to turn it back on then takes 15 mins to get to windows.
I am running a bare system, the only software or hardware on it is what came with it. It has become more or less a paperweight. Would love to have this issue fixed. Currently my desktop which is a custom build - semptron3100, nforce3a, radeon 9550 agp 256mb, 1gb ram, windows 2000 pro. Runs smother, faster than my new laptop. I build my desktop over 2 years ago and is used as main computer in a network, gaming machine, small business, and for college. My Laptop is useless.

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January 4th, 2008 01:00

Good to hear it seems to work. (BTW, I wonder, is VPU recovery enabled on your system currently (in the Catalyst Control Center)? It should be, otherwise it's cheating.)


@dyker wrote:
[...] did you reformat and reinstall windows and load everything from the Dell support site?


Me? First I have installed everything from the Dell site, I didn't even touched the Dell CD. It crashed (black screen + VPU recovery), and I didn't hope anything will help (after reading the forums here), so I didn't played with the video driver, just give the biggest possible "kick" to the system: formatted C:, installed XP again, and then used the Dell CD only. Well, except that the BIOS was already updated. Then it worked, however I tortured it (3DMark, HD movie, etc.). As you can immagine, I didn't want to touch anything ;), so I didn't installed the latest driver.


Something in those CD version drivers was put on this computer... a registry setting...


(Funny coincidence... I just had a similar experience with a nVidia (not ATI, not even integrated) card on a desktop computer (not Dell, not even laptop). It had a clearly-driver-issue. I have spent half a day trying to fix it, without the slightest result. Then I have installed an ancient driver, and the problem disappeared. Then I uninstalled that ancient driver, and reinstalled the latest driver that always had the problem... and the problem magically didn't come back.)

Message Edited by ddekany on 01-03-2008 09:25 PM

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January 4th, 2008 03:00

could always do as i did and tell them will return every bill sent out til they decide to honor the warranty instead of providing the same stupid solution for everything....format and reinstall or update already updated drivers. I signed up for extended warranty yet they do everything in their power not to honor it.
i really do wonder if dell customer/technical support even know anything about the inner workings of a computer other than how to install and uninstall windows or point someone to a website. i found out the dell technician that came to my home to replace my mother board couldnt put it back together after he took it apart, even lost some of the screws in the process. then couldnt find control panel or device manager.
how does dell get award winning customer service when they seem to be or act extremely stupid.

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January 4th, 2008 10:00

dyker: Sorry, it's a client's notebook, so I rather wouldn't risk that, also there is no way he will allow me to experiment on his at-least-working notebook. You know, "if it's working, don't touch it"...

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January 4th, 2008 12:00

Mem,

It should work regardless of setup (clean install or not).

Curious if you bring up that Runescape.com window if you crash right now...:

1. Go to http://www.runescape.com with two separate browsers (I used both firefox and IE).
2. Click to play as an existing user.
3. Click "choose best free world for me" and let the java game screen load up (it
is safe). Just sit on that screen with the fire... don't log in.
Now just sit and wait. The java based graphics of the page were causing the
machine to give the "VPU Recover" error or black screen within a minute for me consistently.

No more though.

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January 4th, 2008 12:00



@ddekany wrote:
dyker: Sorry, it's a client's notebook, so I rather wouldn't risk that, also there is no way he will allow me to experiment on his at-least-working notebook. You know, "if it's working, don't touch it"...




Ghost or Acronis is your friend. After all, your client will be upset with you if he is stuck with this 1501 he bought from you never being able to upgrade. Food for thought.

Anyway, someone else then... there have been plenty of folks on this thread. Try the upgrade path I outlined above. I'll cross post in the other thread too.

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January 4th, 2008 12:00

dyker: DOn't know if i missed it. Is this a fresh install of XP? or Your current O/S setup with just cleaned from ATI drivers than old ones + new ones? (If is a fresh install, i'll try it once my current set up screws me over. Right now i can play the games I like, but lets see how long that last first hehe)

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January 4th, 2008 12:00

Nope, I do not get that error anymore. But i am one nothc lower from HW acceleration, i'm tempted to try your method so i can fully use my vidcard. PS: I'll try enconding a DVD later see if it crashes doing it.

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January 4th, 2008 17:00

Note that memaro doesn't have the same issue, or at least not he same symptom that dyker and me had. But of course, it would be interesting to see if that problem has the same workaround as well.

(Dyker: As the client only uses the notebook for 2D and maybe some video, he loses nothing if the driver remains 6.10 forever. And regardless of this issue, I never recommend upgrading drivers if everything forks fine, unless you are a gamer.)

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January 9th, 2008 18:00

Well if anybody care to know, DELL pull out their not so good A08 drivers and only is recommending the A07 ATI drivers right now.

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January 12th, 2008 07:00

Well guys, just read the entire thread and i have the same problem over here..
 
I installed windows XP sp2 about 1 week ago and the comp began to crash immediatly after.
 
symptoms :
- freeze, screen become blank gradually
- black screen
- blue screen
- random vertical lines
- freeze and then "refresh" (like i was changing my video settings..)
 
I observed that i crash more when i'm 32 bit with 1280x800 so i turned it to 16 bits.
 
When i watch youtube.com video, it's an automatic crash within the next 5 minutes... 
 
I installed the last bios thing and there no difference out there..
 
specs :
Inspiron 1501 amd sempron 3500+
2gig mram
ati radeo xpress 1150
120 gig hard drive sata
windows XP sp2
 
Another question for you guys..
Lately, my comp began to displays 789 mhz on my system information (in control panel) and it's supposed to be an 1.8 ghz.. Anybody know why? And does its affect my cpu performance?
 
thank you
 
(i prayed that my comp didnt crashed while typing this message..)
 
edit : nevermind for the 789 mhz thing, i figured out with the forum's help.. =)
 


Message Edited by Esso88 on 01-12-2008 04:05 AM

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January 12th, 2008 09:00

Could you try the old-ATI-driver trick which was discussed earlier (and then don't forget telling us the results)?

Nice list of symptoms BTW... What do you mean by "gradually" in "screen become blank gradually"? Is "bluescreen" blue-screen-of-death or blue stripes? And you get no VPU Recovery windows?

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January 12th, 2008 11:00

HI everybody,
 
A while back I made the following post in this forum.
 
"I have exactly the same problem described here. It's happened pretty much since day 1. It's been several months but I do have an e-mail from Dell authorizing me to return the computer to Dell for repair when it becomes available. I travel a lot in my line of work and at the time I could not spare it for repair. It's pretty much now available to return but I may have stumbled on the fix. The Dell Tech support said they wanted to replace the motherboard but I have little confidence this would fix anything.

Over the past weekend I was riding in the car and had 3 1/2 hours to spend each way working on this issue on my own.

Specifically, my computer hangs up and the screen display changes to any of the following:

1. colored stripes
2. mostly blank screen with a 1.5 inch x 1.5 inch block somewhere.
3. On more rare occasions a blue screen with garbled grey letters.
4. dark screen.

It can happen at any time, hot or still very cool after boot up. It seems to happen more frequently just after placing a USB flash card in the machine but like I said. It can happen at any time.

When running the test for system overall score I got a 2.8 and the video is the weak link. When optimizing the system I selected better overall performance with regards to the graphics. The score only jumped to 2.9 but it has yet to hang up since.

I believe that if I were running Win XP instead of Vista Home Edition the computer would run fine as Vista puts more strain on the system video.

My system was bought in June 2007.
It is an Inspiron 1501
with a 120GB SATA HDD
and 1GB RAM.
It is running Vista Home Basic "
 
 
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Today I am happy to report that I no longer have the problems or any problems with my computer.
 
I am still running Vista Home basic.
I am running the BIOS version 2.6.3
I am running the ATI driver version 8.432.0.0 dated 11-1-2007.
 
I also ran Error Repair Professional ver 3.6 and it may be responsible for some part of my repair.  If so I don't know what but like many of the diagnostic softwares it found numerous problems and I let it do it's thing.
 
The only other thing was I was still having occurences of the system would auto-reboot and recover.  In Vista Windows woulod ask if I wanted to check for a solution.  I did and I was directed to a link with a Windows update and installation instructions which were very simple.
 
Like I said, I now have a perfectly performing computer.  I have zero complaints and what appears different to me is that I did not revert back to any previous drivers but rather all of the newest ones.
 
I am running the computer at it's fastest performing settings and I run some of the highest demanding softwares without incident or performance problems.  I'm talking things like GeoMagic 3D CAD/CAM packages.  I have no problem with you tube videos or any others for that matter and would be happy to try any tests you all would like for me to run to see if I can trigger any problem events.
 
I have to say, Dell really dropped the ball on this one as their support was at a loss and suggested I send them my computer so they could replace the motherboard.  I never did do that.  I was tempted to install Widows XP SP2 but after seeing the postings in this forum I decided to not do that.
 
If I can be of any help to any of you let me know.  I do hate to see so many people having to revert to old versions of software and drivers if you can find a better working solution with the lattest better performing drivers and settings.

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January 12th, 2008 12:00

so what where this fixes?

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January 12th, 2008 13:00

FWIW, there are two distinct problems.

PROBLEM #1: VERTICAL LINE CRASH
The vertical line problem IS supposedly fixed the new bios fixes. But it isn't 100% fixed. I have experienced that vertical line issue since the bios upgrade. When it happened to me, I had the Dell driver CD in the CD drive and it was during boot up. It was consistently happening. I removed all CDs from the drive on boot up and it hasn't happened since.

PROBLEM #2: VPU RECOVERY ERROR
This is caused by BAD drivers for the Dell motherboard. This is how I fixed it. I was getting the VPU error regularly.
A: Load these http://ftp.us.dell.com/video/R141288.EXE (this is the same one on your driver CD that came with the sustem.
B: Test with those 2 year old drivers until you know you are not getting crashes. If it works for you, try installing the newest ATI drivers on top of that driver (do not uninstall first). They can be found here: http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=xp/integrated-xp I did this without any problems.

NOTE: You cannot proceed directly to "B" without doing "A" first or you will continue getting VPU errors. Dell is silent on this issue as usual.

I had another notebook issue a few years back nearly identical with freezing and found a similar fix and Dell NEVER acknowledge nor FIXED the problem. We were left to our own.

Message Edited by dyker on 01-12-2008 10:53 AM

Message Edited by dyker on 01-12-2008 10:54 AM

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January 12th, 2008 15:00

btw VPU recovery only happens, when you have it enabled in your settings. (If not i think you just crash)
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