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January 18th, 2013 04:00
LCD internal bleeding/crack FAULTS on Latitude 6400 series
I'd like to find out if anyone else is experiencing LCD failures with their Latitude E6430 and E6420 LCD screens. I've seen several screen failures at work that Dell describe as "internal bleeding due to accidental damage". There is an old Vostro V13 thread where 22 users report a very similar issue
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19322611.aspx?PageIndex=1
The following users reported issues with their notebooks: Edgarj602, rhino082, digs7777, tkwoo, nardo1000, SnizzNuke , diegolang, ayeaye, dbb64, RS-IT , csheppt, Subus, lensim, runeash, Cornelius_B, jcantanixon, kwakeham, Kasrah, Pedrocrespo, oshunluvr562, StephanVierkant, bobehm
The symptoms they describe are very similar to ours:
- The notebook is treated well and there are no signs of external damage
- Users discover the fault after the notebook lid is opened and then powered up
- Before the fault had occurred, users report that the notebook was either left on the desk after it was shutdown and lid was closed or
- Was put in a notebook backpack after it was shutdown and lid closed
- The fault occurs a few week to a few months after unboxing of the notebook
- The affected users have owned and used notebooks in the past and have not had such issues and have not mishandled their Dell
kwakeham found this video that demonstrates a possible design flaw
Lenovo ThinkPad LCD Stress Test
In the aforementioned thread topmahof speculates that the hinges on the display panel may be too tight and this causes the screen to flex when it is opened and closed. I think that over tightened hinges can exacerbate a manufacturing defect. have a Latitude E6430 and a Lenovo R61 to compare. I can not open the Dell lid without supporting the base of the notebook as the whole unit tilts back and starts sliding backwards. I can open the lid on the Lenovo with one hand and the hinges are still tight enough to hold the screen upright.
Dell support immediately conclude that the damage must be accidental (i.e. not covered under warranty) after they see a picture of the fault. They do not accept any explanations and refuse to repair the unit free of charge. Their explanation is that they have tested customer's machines in the past and have found the that the fault had occurred due to excessive pressure being applied to the exterior of the screen. They refused to investigate our fault and wouldn't give a reason why (after they had claimed that they've investigated other customers' notebooks so why not ours). They also refuse to disclose their testing methodology or reveal under what circumstances the screen is expected to crack (i.e. how many newton meters of force needs to be applied before the screen cracks, how big or small would the surface area of the pressure point would need to be, etc...)
Here is an example of a screen with "internal bleeding". There is no damage to the exterior



myc0p
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July 2nd, 2013 13:00
2 more 6420 laptops and one 6430 on the same boat at the moment :( There is no way there are so many laptop abusers at our company breaking laptops at the same time.
pa.shl
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July 3rd, 2013 02:00
Yes these cracked screens issues keep trickling in at a rate that's much higher than what we used to have with Lenovos. I’ve also noticed that spilling something on these is a sure fire way of killing them.
Dell quoted me £829 for a motherboard and daughter card replacement on an E6330. We have some HPs Pro/Elite books that are covered in dried up mocha drinks and still work, sticky but work.
I’ve also noticed that the screws holding the hinges work themselves loose so the already bendy Latitudes become even less sturdy with time. Ando don’t even get me started on the docking stations!
The E series Lats are nowhere near the quality we saw with the D series but Dell and procurement mangers know best…