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May 24th, 2006 15:00

Sigmatel line in through mic socket?

My new 9400 has a Sigmatel sound card with only one mini jack input (labelled mic). However, when any plug is inserted into this input, an audio event window asks if the device is a microphone or line-in. I wonder whether it is safe to try feeding a line signal into this socket having selected line-in as the device type? It seems pointless to offer the option if the input can't be configured to the much lower sensitivity required for line-in. However, I don't want to fry the input. Does anyone know the answer?

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May 24th, 2006 16:00

It has been reported that the line in does function as a stereo line-in unlike the mono only input jack of the previous line of Inspirons with the Sigmatel STAC 975x chip.

I think it would be safe to try by connecting a device such as an ipod or whatever with its volume set to zero and then very gradually increasing. I'd plug in while the computer is off.

Jim

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May 24th, 2006 17:00

Thanks Jim, I'll try it and let you know. Gavin

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May 25th, 2006 18:00

Thanks Jim, you gave me the confidence to try a line signal thru the mic socket ... and it worked a treat! Well done. By the way what audio software are you using to record? We're using Nero 7 premium (wave editor).
Gavin

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May 26th, 2006 01:00

Gavin,

I write and play music and record it mostly with Sonar 1.3 and Sonar 4 which are multitracking audio and midi recorders. I also use the Creative Mediasource recorder that came with a Soundblaster external soundcard. I also have some other recorders including Audacity that I rarely use.

I got the external soundcard because my model Inspiron does not have a line-in, only mono mic. But usually I just use the Sigmatel's mic jack. The mic preamp is connected to it.

Jim

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May 26th, 2006 08:00

Thanks for the info Jim. It was most kind of you to resolve my dilemma so quickly and effectively. You may be interested to know that Dell tech support took a week to respond to the same question by email. They asked me to restate the question several times along the way and finally closed the communication with these words:

"Unfortunately, I would not be able to offer support on this problem you are facing as it is a customer usage issue. Regards, Alan Wright,Dell E-Support, Dimension/ Inspiron"

Why exactly "a customer usage issue" absolves Dell from any responsibility to help a customer who has just spent nearly $2000 on a high end Dell laptop is a complete mystery to me. I also talked to Sigmatel HQ in Texas. They said they couldn't even consider questions about the basic capabilities of their hardware unless I had a Sigmatel contact name. However, they suggested I address the question to Dell!

Thank God there are still some good guys around ... like you.

Kind regards,
Gavin

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May 29th, 2006 10:00

That's all great, but how are you meant to hear what you're recording if you have the headphone jack connected to the line/mic-in?

The sigmatel drivers need to add a "wave-out"/"what u hear" option in the record panel of windows volume control panel. Has anyone reported this to them as a feature request?

Jim, i saw in another post that you know something about registry entries for the sigmatel chip: http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=insp_audio&message.id=27868

I did a search for "record" and there's an entry which has an ascii description of what inputs are available in the record panel, but i doubt that just adding another description would enable the functionality we're looking for...

Do you think it might be possible to get this working without the jack-to-jack connection idea?

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May 30th, 2006 13:00

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=1404450&posted=1#post1404450 - Possible fix?

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May 30th, 2006 15:00

tameruk,

"but how are you meant to hear what you're recording if you have the headphone jack connected to the line/mic-in?

Do you think it might be possible to get this working without the jack-to-jack connection idea?"

??? That is not what I understood the topic of this thread to be.


That person in the other forum who copied and pasted my instructions on enabling monitoring with the Sigmatel 92xx chip left off some of it, most importantly any credit to the ones who discovered the edit. Here it is in its entirety:



Dells ships Inspirons with the ability to monitor the input jack turned off. For models with the Sigmatel 92xx audio chip & driver an edit in the Registry of the subkey EnableInputMonitor will restore the monitoring function.

DIRECTIONS FOR MODELS WITH STAC92xx DRIVERS ONLY(B120 & 130, 1300, XPS 140m & 630m, 6400/E1505, 9400/E1705)

[It is wise to create a System Restore point before editing the Registry! If you accidentally make incorrect edits while in there you could cripple your computer, but using System Restore should correct any problems. To create a new Restore Point go to Start/Help & Support/System Restore and tick 'Create a restore point'.]

These instructions were provided by emann15 and The Performing Flea who discovered this edit.

1. Go to the Start menu and click on Run. Type 'regedit' without quotes and click OK to open the Registry.
2. At the top of the list, highlight My Computer.
3. Under the Edit menu, select Find.
4. Type in 'EnableInputMonitor' without quotes and click 'find next'.
5. Highlight EnableInputMonitor. Right click on it and select Modify.
6. Highlight 00 and change to 01. Click OK.
7. Repeat "find next" (F3) several more times and keep changing values to 01 until the "EnableInputMonitor"'s coming up are of the proper value.
8. Find a key named "EnableIntSpkrMute" and change its value from 01 to 00.
9. Exit the Registry and restart the computer.

Next, configure the system mixer:

1. Open Volume Control by right clicking on the speaker icon on the taskbar, or go to Start/Control Panel/ Sound & Audio Devices Properties/Advanced (button).
2. Under the Options menu, select Properties.
3.Under 'show the following volume controls' check the box next to Microphone. Click OK.
4. Make sure the mute box is unchecked.

For those familiar with the Registry here is the direct path to the key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\
{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0005\Settings\filter\Rear

Jim

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September 10th, 2006 01:00

Thanks Jim! That worked perfectly.

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September 14th, 2006 03:00

This worked at first for me, but recently the slider doesn't work anymore.  I still can use the mute button to turn on and off the live monitoring, but its loud and there is no way to turn it down.  I tried re-installing the drivers and doing the hack again but the slider still isn't sliding.  I saw someone else on here had the same problem.  Does anyone know the registry key to allow the slider to slide if it stops sliding but the live monitoring is still working?

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September 14th, 2006 04:00

fixed it using inf from post #62 of this page http://www.notebookforums.com/thread169312-3.html

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February 17th, 2007 08:00



jimco wrote:
Dells ships Inspirons with the ability to monitor the input jack turned off. For models with the Sigmatel 92xx audio chip & driver an edit in the Registry of the subkey EnableInputMonitor will restore the monitoring function.

DIRECTIONS FOR MODELS WITH STAC92xx DRIVERS ONLY(B120 & 130, 1300, XPS 140m & 630m, 6400/E1505, 9400/E1705)

[It is wise to create a System Restore point before editing the Registry! If you accidentally make incorrect edits while in there you could cripple your computer, but using System Restore should correct any problems. To create a new Restore Point go to Start/Help & Support/System Restore and tick 'Create a restore point'.]

These instructions were provided by emann15 and The Performing Flea who discovered this edit.

1. Go to the Start menu and click on Run. Type 'regedit' without quotes and click OK to open the Registry.
2. At the top of the list, highlight My Computer.
3. Under the Edit menu, select Find.
4. Type in 'EnableInputMonitor' without quotes and click 'find next'.
5. Highlight EnableInputMonitor. Right click on it and select Modify.
6. Highlight 00 and change to 01. Click OK.
7. Repeat "find next" (F3) several more times and keep changing values to 01 until the "EnableInputMonitor"'s coming up are of the proper value.
8. Find a key named "EnableIntSpkrMute" and change its value from 01 to 00.
9. Exit the Registry and restart the computer.

Next, configure the system mixer:

1. Open Volume Control by right clicking on the speaker icon on the taskbar, or go to Start/Control Panel/ Sound & Audio Devices Properties/Advanced (button).
2. Under the Options menu, select Properties.
3.Under 'show the following volume controls' check the box next to Microphone. Click OK.
4. Make sure the mute box is unchecked.

For those familiar with the Registry here is the direct path to the key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\
{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0005\Settings\filter\Rear

Jim

Jim, This Doesn't work in VISTA can you find a work-around?
 

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February 17th, 2007 13:00

Sorry but I don't have Vista so no way to experiment. Someone will eventually come up with an edit and post it. If you or anyone else want to try just be sure to back up the Registry first.

Jim

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February 17th, 2007 22:00

This is just a shot in the dark but it looks like in VISTA the same location is located in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0000\Settings\filter\SpeakerHp
Then Add the EnableInputMonitor with Binary Value 01
 
 

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February 19th, 2007 16:00

ethan hines,

When you wrote

"Then Add the EnableInputMonitor with Binary Value 01"

did you mean that one should type in that line in the Vista Registry? Have you tried doing this and did it work for you?

Jim
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