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March 3rd, 2013 17:00

Intel Haswell availability?

This might a bit a too early to ask, but do you already have any plans regarding Intel Haswell? In particular, do you plan to release an updated version of XPS 13 with Haswell under the hood or will come with a completely new laptop? I'm seriously considering an upgrade to Sputnik, but the improvements in Haswell, in particular better power management and faster graphics, are big enough that I might wait a few months.

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July 28th, 2013 04:00

Touch Screen? Absolulet no go

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July 28th, 2013 08:00

I'm still thinking...am I going to order the XPS 13 this week, or shall I wait a month or 2 and hope that there will be a Haswell version of it...

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July 29th, 2013 17:00

Looks like we may have a beefier cousin of XPS13 DE, maybe a XPS15 Developer Edition. I base this on the just previewed Precision M3800

www.dell.com/.../precision-m3800-workstation

This looks strikingly similar to XPS13 in design.

Beefier indeed: 4.5lbs vs the XPS 13's 2.99lbs. No thanks.

I'm still thinking...am I going to order the XPS 13 this week, or shall I wait a month or 2 and hope that there will be a Haswell version of it...

My main fear is that they decide the developer edition isn't worth it and the current edition will be the last one. But, but, I want Haswell! D:

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August 23rd, 2013 04:00

Assumably the new Macbooks with Haswell will come soon now...

While the competition ships - again - mediocre Ultrabooks, including mediocre displays (but touch enabled, of course. This makes no sense at all - apparently the only porpose is to provide a selling point for Win 8), it seems Apple is again the only company doing it all right.

it is kind of sad - it seems noone is able or willing to ship a premium Haswell Ultrabook. And no, Win 8 is just no option.

Come on, Dell... Just do it, can't be that difficult... Pleaaaase

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August 23rd, 2013 14:00

Let me check

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August 23rd, 2013 14:00

Stay tuned Max, hopefully you'll find it worth the wait :-)

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August 23rd, 2013 14:00

Barton, can you tell me whether or not the current Sputnik XPS 13 hard drive (SSD) supports hardware encryption (by enabling the hard drive password in the BIOS)?

On my Latitude E6510 with aftermarket Samsung 840 SSD, enabling the password does cause the hard drive to enable encryption.

I have the password enabled on Sputnik XPS 13, but have no idea if that enables encryption, or simply acts as a simple hard drive password lock.

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August 23rd, 2013 14:00

Mr George, 

thanks for the reply. I well understand you cannot comment on yet unreleased products. 

That being said, the subtext interpretation is, well, interesting.

I intend to purchase a 13" Haswell Ultrabook/MBP Retina. Whoever comes first, serves first. :-)

I really like the Apple product lineup - however, I'd love to finally see a really well done Linux machine. 

Regards, 

Max

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August 25th, 2013 14:00

I too am interested in how functional the hard drive encryption is.  There have been many promises in the SSD realm of encryption, but many documented flaws and doubts of robustness.

I'm also interested in if VT-x and VT-d - from hardware to bios, is supported, as I do run QubesOS as well.  Although I'm likely to wait for a Haswell model.

Wishlist for next developer edition - 

Needs -

16gb ram

VT-x and VT-d support all around

6hr+ battery life

functional & robust ssd hardware encryption (AES256 or better)

Wants -

13inch FF

IPS display

8hr+ battery life

Thanks for all the work!

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August 26th, 2013 01:00

I'm also waiting for the next Sputnik iteration, having bought the previous 2. 

What I like to see is:

Haswell/improved battery

Ubuntu key

Shipping with an updated Ubuntu version.

My current sputnik is struggling with battery life on 13.04. So some updated settings would be great.

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August 26th, 2013 01:00

As I mentioned before, I asked if I need to wait for a Hasswel, but I thought It would take a while and bought the current XPS 13. I hope my €1200 device will not be 'old' too soon ...

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August 26th, 2013 09:00

mhanby and brajalle: There's a "Set HDD Password" option in the firmware setup . I don't know implementation details.

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August 26th, 2013 12:00

I just joined this forum simply to reply back and show some additional interest.  Most of the developers at my company are getting Lenovo W530s, but I am the only person at the entire company to run Linux.  I wanted something thinner and lighter than the W530 that was designed with Linux in mind.  I recently convinced my company to order the new System76 Galago Ultrapro for me.  It had tons of promise but ultimately I felt like it didn't deliver.  I had several hardware issues with it that obviously would have been covered for free under warranty.  However, I wound up sending back the system entirely because I just wasn't that impressed with it overall.

I am really hoping for a Haswell refresh of this XPS 13 model.  The current version has fantastic reviews, even from people that aren't die-hard Linux users (and are not power users).  I debated the XPS 13 DE but there were a few problems that I had with it:

1. Max of 8GB of RAM.  While this is usually more than enough for what I'm doing, there was one thing that I was doing that pulls so much data into memory at runtime, that I actually had to upgrade my existing laptop to 16GB.  So typically 8GB is sufficient, but at least one thing in my system requires me to have more than that.  I had to upgrade to 16GB and up my max heap space to 12GB to run this successfully.  So at least 12GB is required, 16 would be preferred.

2. Only a single SSD.  Rather than having a single SSD, I think the perfect setup is to allow an mSATA SSD (something like the Crucial M4?) and then have a large HDD for storage.  mSATA drives are crazy small and therefore do add much additional bulk.  The Galago allows for this setup and it was exactly what my IT admin ordered for me (a 256GB mSATA with 1TB HDD).

3. Slower graphics.  The Galago offers the new Haswell core with the 5200 Iris Pro while the XPS 13 DE is still relying on the HD4000.  We sometimes do gaming nights at the office and being able to play most of my Steam library on a crazy thin laptop would be a dream.  Currently I haul my entire ATX desktop system into the office whenever we do a game night.  It doesn't have to handle *EVERY* game...that's what my i5 Haswell desktop with GTX 650 Ti is for.  At least the video card isn't an ATI card however.  ATI and Linux just don't work very well together at the moment.

I really like what Dell has done with this and the reviews make this a very promising piece of hardware.  The backlit keyboard is awesome and almost a must have for me since I first purchased a macbook pro in 2006.  I'm actually fine with a glossy screen but I know some people don't like them.  One of my biggest complaints about the Galago was the touchpad.  It was just awful.  The following review really caught my eye when the reviewer says that the XPS 13 DE will do "two-finger scrolling (with inertia!)" which is downright amazing.  My old macbook pro running Ubuntu didn't even support inertia in the scrolling!

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/04/it-just-works-dell-xps-13-developer-edition-linux-ultrabook-review/

I really hope this little machine gets a Haswell upgrade.  Even if an update stays with the Ivy bridge (though why not update to Haswell at this point??) -- if Dell puts out an update with at least 12GB of RAM and option to have mSATA SSD with a 2.5" HDD -- I would push my IT team to order it for me in a heartbeat.  Heck, I may just order it for myself at home!  Better graphics are nice but not required since I can always haul my desktop into work for the rare gaming nights.  But the additional RAM and larger storage would seal the deal for me.

Right now I still haven't decided what to order since returning the Galago to System76.  I'm really leaning toward asking for a macbook pro and just installing Ubuntu on it, but I'm intrigued by the latest "wait and see" comment.  I really don't like giving Apple any money, and would love to support Dell's efforts (or any other company) that wants to ship their computers with Linux pre-installed, especially when drivers and other changes are making their way back into the Linux kernel.  Supporting open source software is huge in my book.  Valve has taking a LOT of my money since I first received my Steam for Linux beta invite.  Given that the reviews for this first version were so stellar, if Dell refreshes this hardware with some better RAM and SSD/HDD combo then my money is theirs, without question.

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August 26th, 2013 19:00

Thanks for the great input!

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August 27th, 2013 05:00

Whatever is upcoming - I hope is not based on the 7000 Series?!

Edit:

I am disappointed. Seems my fears became true. Apparently Dell is going to replace the XPS 13 with the 7000 Series. 

If I am not mistaken there, I' m out. I have a feelin' that Dell is again supporting Apple ;)

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