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October 29th, 2011 15:00
Building A System WITH Dell Dimension 9200 Motherboard
Hello, I've got a tricky one... I have a Dell Dimension 9200 Motherboard (as mentioned already) and I need to install it into a new ATX case I'm getting. This is going to be a new system for my dad. I know Dell motherboards are proprietary so this is going to be a bit difficult but I'm up for it. :emotion-8: :emotion-5:
Firstly, I am getting a new CPU heatsink + fan for my CPU (which is compatible, I've checked). Already have my eyes set on one, but I know I might have to switch to a more suitable one. The stock Intel heatsink + fan does not mount properly onto the Dell motherboard, so I will need a Dell-specific retention bracket? I'm guessing a new CPU heatsink/fan would be no different than the stock Intel one in terms of required mounting?
Moving on, what will I need to do to have all the necessary pin connectors work? (CPU_FAN, FRONT PANEL, USB)
Anything else I need to do? Power supply should connect fine to POWER on motherboard.
I'm planning to buy AYWUN A1-977B Black mid tower ATX case with A1-2000 (500W Max Power PSU)
Modding required? What parts will I need to buy? All help will be very much appreciated.
Thanks



shesagordie
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October 29th, 2011 15:00
plokafire
How to you intend to mount a Dell Dimension 9200 BTX motherboard into a standard ATX case, these are two completely different form factors.
For the Dimension 9200 BTX motherboard you need a Dell BTX case.
Also, Dell has never published the pinouts of the 9200 proprietary front panel connectors.
Bev.
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rdunnill
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October 29th, 2011 16:00
The 9200 mainboard is not worth working with unless you're using it with a Dell chassis.
I took on the project of figuring out the proprietary front panel pin assignments for the Dimension 2350 chassis, and converted the wiring to work with a standard mainboard. It involved about $80 worth of tools, including a special Molex crimping tool from Digikey (for the electrical connections), another crimping tool (for the strain reliefs), fine wire strippers, and a continuity tester. And, in the end the front audio cable was too short for most mainboards.
plokafire
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October 31st, 2011 06:00
I thought I had an ATX motherboard, let me check... I'm not sure if it is a Dell Dimension 9200 Motherboard, only know that it looks identical and I definitely did not get this motherboard from a Dell computer anyway,
All I have is the motherboard AA code and I looked it up, seems to be the Dell Dimension 9200 one. I was pretty confident it was ATX, but I'll check.
speedstep
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October 31st, 2011 07:00
An AA Code would be an INTEL Desktop board. Look for the DPN
Dimension 9200/XPS 410 is a DELL 0CT017 board.
Dell XPS 410 Dimension 9200 Front I/O Panel Audio Cable WJ149
Dell XPS 410 Dimension 9200 Front I/O Panel Ribbon Cable 0FK201 FK201
Dell XPS 410 Dimension 9200 Front I/O USB Audio Panel 0HH180 HH180 Alt MW117
Dell Dimension 9200C XPS 210 would be Dell WG860
DELL WJ149 AUDIO CABLE to FRONT PANEL DIMENSION 9200 E521 E520 CN-0WJ149
Dell Dimension 9200c and XPS 210 I/O Control Panel with X9259 and MK154 Cables, USB, Audio, Firewire, Dell HH189.
Dell Chassis Cooling Fan with PCI Tank Shroud Assembly for Dimension 9200 and XPS 420 Systems, Dell JY856.
Dell Heatsink Assembly with Heatsink DP/N W5685, Shroud DP/N N8055, and 2 Mounting Screws for Dimension 9200, Precision 380 and 390 Systems, Dell U9607.
Dell™ Dimension™ 9200 - Documentation
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muto
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October 31st, 2011 10:00
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speedstep
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October 31st, 2011 11:00
Just like the Car Parts from a Chop Shop I agree that assembling a unit from the ground up would be more expensive than buying The Whole system.
plokafire
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November 7th, 2011 23:00
What the...?
I replied to this thread three days ago yet I cannot see my post. I am so confused. OK, I'll rewrite everything.
I've decided to use a Dell case. Will I have much trouble building a Dell computer from scratch?
I will acquire a GX280/ GX520/ GX560 case. Will they work? More specifically the GX280 as long as it's full tower size?
Thanks
I'm going to be able to get most of the extra components I need like heatsink, fan, power supply, etc.
Any help? Please reply quickly. This is urgent.
plokafire
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November 8th, 2011 02:00
Oh, I forgot to mention that it is indeed a Dell Dimension 9200 BTX motherboard so I will be using a Dell chassis.
"How to you intend to mount a Dell Dimension 9200 BTX motherboard into a standard ATX case, these are two completely different form factors."
-shesagordie
"The 9200 mainboard is not worth working with unless you're using it with a Dell chassis." -rdunnill
Also, thanks for telling how difficult my original plan would be, rdunnill & muto.
SpeedStep, thanks for you help, it is indeed OCT017 so it is a Dimension 9200.
So I want to know what to do once I get a case, power supply, heatsink. Of course, I know how to build a computer but how different is building a Dell?
A GX280 case /GX560 case /GX520 case will work as long as it's full size? What size do Dell call that?
Thanks again
plokafire
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November 14th, 2011 05:00
Umm... this is not answered. I really require the help and I would appreciate if someone could help.
I have said thanks many times only because I do that in real life too. Seriously, my problem is not solved. And I would like to know how to build this Dell computer from scratch and I need assistance. I have no idea what to do, though I have enough basic knowledge to know how to build an "ordinary" non-Dell system. Is it possible?
rdunnill said "The 9200 mainboard is not worth working with unless you're using it with a Dell chassis."
Well, I'm going to be able to have a Dell chassis and would know where to start with my project... I can acquire a PSU, heatsink, fans, etc. But any advice? what case to get? GX620 or any old Dell BTX case will do? I guess guessing the front panel pins would be hard work but I guess I can be fine with having to guess. haha, guess there was no pun intended
please don't just read, but reply if you can help in anyway at all
shesagordie
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November 14th, 2011 08:00
plokafire
Best to use either a Dell Dimension 9200, or an XPS 410 chassis.
The Dimension 9100 and 9150 chassis might be useable, but they would require I/O back panel case modification.
Bev.
speedstep
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November 14th, 2011 11:00
Using The 9200 board in a non Dell case is going to cost more than buying an assembled XPS 410 on ebay for $399 or less.
The Case is DH108 ASSEMBLY..., CHASSIS..., DIMENSION..., 9200/410, PWA INTEGRATED...
OEM Dell Dimension 9200 Full Tower Case DH108
rdunnill
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November 14th, 2011 12:00
I restored a stripped down 4550 to service by sourcing parts from third-party vendors and eBay. Obtain the needed Dell case and assemble the machine, piece by piece, mail-ordering any missing components.
That can get expensive, though, and you might consider buying a complete 9220 on eBay; someone has one for $170 including shipping with "Buy It Now."
Here is a used case for sale: http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Dell-Dimension-9200-Full-Tower-Case-DH108-CH275-C-/330571558746?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf799af5a I suggest you start there and if you have problems sourcing parts, let us know here.
plokafire
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November 19th, 2011 06:00
I live in Australia so that eBay Dell computer won't do for me. Anyway, my purpose isn't to have a computer to use.
It seems to me, that you guys are suggesting that I won't be able to use a non-Dimension 9200 / XPS 410 case?
I was thinking of just obtaining any Dell case that was BTX size, and just acquire the other Dell proprietary components, and build it from scratch like any other computer. What's wrong with that? I'm obviously missing something, what different is a Dell 9200 case compared to an Optiplex or other series/ model cases? I mean they are just cases, as long as they are the same size, it should be fine? Though, this is Dell we are talking about, so that is probably wrong according to your comments...
BTW, I will have no problems with getting parts, there are plenty of Dell parts around the market that people are willing to sell where I live. However, it would still be extremely difficult to get a Dimension 9200 case specifically.
SpeedStep, you are providing a lot of interesting information, but you fail to see that I am, if I decide to go ahead, going to use a Dell case, NOT a NON-DELL one. That was not the original plan, but as I have already said, I've CHANGED my mind.
Thanks
speedstep
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November 19th, 2011 07:00
Since the dell front panels are not just wires you wont learn anything from this and i doubt it will be anything but more expensive than having purchased a system outright.
Davet50
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November 19th, 2011 13:00
Dell mother boards are designed for the cases the orginally come in. A BTX board will not fit into a ATX style case. The back panels will not line up and in most case will need to be gutted. Then there is the mother board mounting standoffs. They will not line up. This will also be the case with ATX boards. The size and shape of the boards are spec'd to the case and other component layouts. You will have a chalange doing what you want and will spend more then the system will ever be worth.