Cannot OC after installing new memory :(

Is that EPP memory? And if so, are you tuning with EPP on or off?

Dave,

 

Sounds like you have an IO or hard drive problem - see below - You may want to run a chkdsk /f on the HD.

 

0x00000024: NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM
(Click to consult the online MSDN article.)
A problem occurred within NTFS.SYS, the driver file that allows the system to read and write to NTFS file system drives. There may be a physical problem with the disk, or an Interrupt Request Packet (IRP) may be corrupted. Other common causes include heavy hard drive fragmentation, heavy file I/O, problems with some types of drive-mirroring software, or some antivirus software. I suggest running ChkDsk or ScanDisk as a first step; then disable all file system filters such as virus scanners, firewall software, or backup utilities. Check the file properties of NTFS.SYS to ensure it matches the current OS or SP version. Update all disk, tape backup, CD-ROM, or removable device drivers to the most current versions.

       Davet50,

 

     When you have your memory set to EPP mode, it is already overclocked, the rom on the memory is giving it instructions on timing and speed. If you are going to try to overclock the fsb, you would be better off turning EPP off and trying it that way as increasing speed of the fsb, also increases the speed of the memory.

 

gd thanks...i will try that this afternoon when i get home...

 

OD i like your suggetion and will look up the procedures for running the ckhdsk and scandisk....

I do know that i am having a bit of an issue with my mouse...it will lock up at time for no apperant reason... i reloaded the drives last night and it seem to help...

 

 

Thanks to all ....thats what been great about the DCF...lots of Great help......

it is EPP memory and it is turned on in the Bios. The memory is being reported correctly in CPU-z as far as timings and amount. In Ntune it sees the memory an reports all correctly it doesn't reconize the name of the sticks...

 

I ran memtest for 8 hrs overnight and no errors were reported.....

 

I find this whole situation a big mystery... I got better tuning when i had my Pent D with the stock ram in the system...at least then i could oc the processor from 3.6 to 4.3 and the mem from 667 to 767...

 

 

any idea on how much gain i might be able to get with EPP turned off???

 

Davet50 - you and I have almost the same system, and I got 2.78GHz out of my Q6600 which bumped my memory up to 927MHz. My memory is the OCZ 1066 EPP. I OC with EPP off which boots my memory at 800MHz. Also, this was a 20 minute tune. I haven't found the time for the 3 hour tune yet.

            Davet50,

 

               CHSI got 2.7, actually almost 2.8, thats probably a good indication where you will end up. I was messing with an E6600 with stock Dell 667 memory on the old 700 board, and had it up to 2.9, with the memory around 800MHz., but the E and the Q are totally different animals. I would go by what CHSI says as he has one, any thing I could tell you would be pure speculation. I'm not sure what our memory will boot at without EPP enabled as I turned mine on at first boot.

       I did try the 20 minute tune, and then the three hour tune, and got the same results. My best results were achieved by manually adjusting the fsb.

 

     keep us posted.

jd

that's the thing i get no change in using the course tune..only uped the proc to 2.457 hardly worth the effort and the mem went to about the same value...thats why i am/was puzzled why the proc won't go higer..the FSB only went to 273 again hardly a change....when i tried to manually adjust the bus 2.5 was the most i could get...

 

I am running CHKDSK now so after it is done i will try the tune with EPP off..

Do you think it also might be a software issue ie either windoze or Nvidia???

I think your results will improve dramatically with EPP turned off. Keep us posted.

Ratchet

 

what really puzzles me is that with the stock Dell 667 ram i could get the processore at least up to 2.7 with this new mem that is not possible as of yet....

Well chkdsk ran and reported no errors and all was well...

 

now for some more courious things...somehow my bios setting got reset.... and i have no idea how this happend...even turned off the performance enable and REST the memory to no EPP/SLI....

then i went into ntune and turned off the Spread spectrum settings along with the hyperthreading ...

 

No how the bios got reset is puzzling..i hope this is not a board issue....

 

Ok so now i am bascialy back up and running with EPP turned off in the bios but both CPU-z and ntune report the mem are running  @800mz with the 4-4-4-23 settings which i believe is EPP values...

 

Any ideas???

I played with mine only briefly so far, but I've had a similar experience. I achieved better Ntune overclocking results by disabling EPP/SLI memory in the bios. It seems that when you enable EPP the memory boots up at close to its max speed. This would leave hardly any headroom for Ntune to work with, since it can only increase the FSB. With a 20min coarse tune and EPP disabled my new best 3Dmarks with the 720 board is 10805.

 

I have only been able to get the CPU to 2.619 vs. the 2.799 I was getting on the old 710 mobo. Even so the 720 combo produced a higher 3Dmarks score.

 

I think I can push it further by manually adjusting like gdwrnch3 has.

It's been so long since I used the 667 memory that I don't remember how it behaved while overclocking. However, I did keep a 3Dmarks log with all the test results and conditions. I didnt keep score so much by looking at the cpu OC speed. I can say that the 3Dmark score did go up when my OCZ memory was installed. I guess being a car guy where people can talk horsepower(similar to cpu speed) but what I'm really concerned with is how fast can it move down the quarter mile (like the 3Dmarks score).

 

Also keep in mind I'm using an E6600 and OCZ PC2 8500 SLI memory so they are different beasts.

The important thing to remember is that when EPP is enabled, your MB is essentially taking it's cues from the ROM on the memory DIMM's, which tell the MB " run me at this speed, with this voltage, at these timings ". With EPP turned off, nTune is more free to adjust voltages and speed. It's not too surprising that your speed stayed the same with EPP on or off since 800MHz is technically not an OC'd speed for DDR2 and this mobo natively supports 800MHz.