Help Me Please, Concerns the E510...

Look at it like driving, something else that involves speed and time.  Say you drive a mile to McDonalds.  The speed limit is 35.  It takes 1/35 of a hour, 1.7 minutes (assuming constant speed).  If you cheat the speed limit knowing you won't get a ticket for going 40MPH, it takes 1.5 minutes.  You save 12 seconds!  Not real significant.

Now say you drive a 400 mile trip.  The speed limit is 70.  At a constant speed, it takes 5.7 hours.  Again, if you noodge the speed limit and drive 75, it takes 5.3 hours.  You save 24 minutes--long enough to do that McDonalds stop and arrive at the same time.

Short processing chores like browsing or saving documents are like the trip to McDonalds.  You won't notice any difference in 0.2GHz.  Long processing chores like extensive graphics rendering, you might.

Routine operations like booting, opening programs or files, there's no difference at all--those are bottlenecked elsewhere by MUCH slower hardware.

wow
thanks
that answered it straight forward.
didnt think i would get a good answer like that.
what i was thinking was along those lines. but with no detail.
thanks, hope the 3.0 does me good

My Problem Is...
Getting the 3.2 GHz Pentium D w/ Core Duo Technology, Exceeds My Limit.
Would Getting a 3.0 GHz Be Much of A Difference? That Small .2?
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Just to let you know about a very small point, you are not getting a Core 2 Duo cpu system. You stated in your post that its a Core Duo, but actually its called Dual Core. Minor point, but just to let you know they are both very different, and the Core 2 Duo is the latest and best thing out today.

Sorry to have messed up the post a little

Dim 4400
2.6 Ghz 400 FSB
1 Gb 2100 DDR memory
Vista RC-1 Utimate
17 inch 1703 FP monitor
XFX 7800 GS O/C AGP ( 91.47 driver )
16x DVD-R
410 watt ( PcPower&Cooling )
PC-Cillon Internet Security

Message Edited by SR45 on 09-10-200605:04 PM

yes it may be.
but im used to a mac. and with 512 ram i can run every app in my dock. and i usually do.
and on a pc i just want to make sure i could pretty much do the same.
and yes i do video editing, not much but i work with some large files that i have to convert and etc.

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@SR45 wrote:
My Problem Is...
Getting the 3.2 GHz Pentium D w/ Core Duo Technology, Exceeds My Limit.
Would Getting a 3.0 GHz Be Much of A Difference? That Small .2?
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Just to let you know about a very small point, you are not getting a Core 2 Duo cpu system. You stated in your post that its a Core Duo, but actually its called Dual Core. Minor point, but just to let you know they are both very different, and the Core 2 Duo is the latest and best thing out today.

Sorry to have messed up the post a little

Dim 4400
2.6 Ghz 400 FSB
1 Gb 2100 DDR memory
Vista RC-1 Utimate
17 inch 1703 FP monitor
XFX 7800 GS O/C AGP ( 91.47 driver )
16x DVD-R
410 watt ( PcPower&Cooling )
PC-Cillon Internet Security

Message Edited by SR45 on 09-10-200605:04 PM

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yes i know.
overall, do you think the setup is overall good?

i configured the system not just for gaming, i do alot in photoshop, indesign, and go live, usually at the same time. but 3 gb's of ram being too much? i mean, could it hurt? it could only be a good thing.
i was looking at the xps 200, that was my main choice until i saw that this e510 could upgraded and customized so much more to what i wanted for the same price

Nice computer....  I also have the E-510; and I have the UltraSharp monitor too so our pc's are very similar.

Its a fair system for gaming, but like Mary said, 3 gigs is really too much, and best to stick with 2 gig or memory, and only upgrade it later if necessary, but we don't think you will.

The newer Core 2 Duo cpu on the XPS 410 and 700 is really the way to go if you plan on better gaming, and if you can find a coupon or Dell promotion to reduce the XPS 410, by all means get it. Right now for me, I could get the lower ended XPS 410 for around $1,400 without monitor. Still high for you, but we are talking future proofing for games, etc.

But, the E510 is a good main stream system for the price

Dim 4400
2.6 Ghz 400 FSB
1 Gb 2100 DDR memory
Vista RC-1 Utimate
17 inch 1703 FP monitor
XFX 7800 GS O/C AGP ( 91.47 driver )
16x DVD-R
410 watt ( PcPower&Cooling )
PC-Cillon Internet Security

Message Edited by SR45 on 09-10-200605:19 PM

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@cherfizzle wrote:
I have a budget of exactly $1300.
I gave the E510,
3 GB RAM
Windows XP MCE 2005 w/ Reinstallation CD
20" Ultrasharp Widescreen Monitor
160 GB HD
256MB PCI Express™ x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) ATI Radeon X600 SE HyperMemory

My Problem Is...
Getting the 3.2 GHz Pentium D w/ Core Duo Technology, Exceeds My Limit.
Would Getting a 3.0 GHz Be Much of A Difference? That Small .2?

Help If You Can, Thank You.

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if it cant address it, then why would dell put 3 gb's of ram on the built to order list?
if that 1 GB is going to get "wasted" im sure dell wouldnt want to upset their customers, knowing that.

should i drop it to 2 GB ram?

Message Edited by cherfizzle on 09-10-200605:50 PM

Windows can't address more than 2G of memory space; more is wasted unless your application can address memory 'outside' Windows.

There are certain efficiencies built in to 'Core Duo'.  It's going to be more forward-compatible (though the E510 chipset is not).  It's thermally friendlier.  Many of Intel's marketing gimmicks in the past depended solely upon the application's ability to access them, and none were widely adopted ('hyperthreading' is one of those).  To my knowledge, there is no benchmark for exactly what performance superiority 'Core Duo' has that 'core solo' does not.

good point.
how many slots for memory in the first place would the E-510 have?

Its not Dell, its Microsoft's windows xp. Vista will be able to address the added memory when it come out. Having more than 2 gb is still not needed, so why spend the extra cash on something you won't use for the system and programs you will install ?

Again, you can always increase the memory later, and when you upgrade to Vista. Since the Vista OS will come out onto systems in late November, unless Microsoft has another delay, and if you can hold off, just wait 2 1/2 months or so.

Another thing for those that are switching the real ID of Dual Core to Core Duo, is telling us you have the Core 2 Duo, and that is not the case, and we might mistaken what you are claiming to be really the dual core for the new cpu's and give you wrong information. Its dual core for the dual core systems and core 2 duo for the Conroe cpu's. The E510 is dual core only, not core 2 duo or core duo. Got that one off my chest. Its like those that purchase a pci-express card when they should have gotten a pci slot card only for their pci slot systems ......

Definitely cut back the memory.  The e510 has four memory slots.  Put the extra money into a better video card.  I've seen the 7600GT for around $115 after rebate.  You'll see much more performance on the e510 from a better video card than you will an extra meg of memory, at least on a machine configured as you've specified....

Good luck, Wayne.....

Dimension e510
940 3.2 Ghz Processor
1 GB 533 Mhz Ram
250 GB SATA 3.0 Hard Drive
Sony DRU-810 DVD +/- RW
DVD/CDRW Drive
x700 Radeon Pro 256Mb DDR3
2007 WFP Monitor

Inspiron 6000
Centrino P4-740
512 Mb RAM
60 GB HD
8X DVD +/- RW Drive