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April 25th, 2014 09:00

Studio 1737, no backlight

Been having trouble with black screen coming up on boot up sometimes.  Now it is always black.  But I can still read screen with a flashlight and external monitor works fine.  I have seen suggestions that screen inverter board needs to be replaced.  But there seem to be two kinds, one for LCD screens and another for LED screens.

I thought I had an LED screen.  Technical specs for my order from Dell indicates I have a "Liquid Crystal Display 17WXGA+, Light Emitting Diode True Life, Samsung"  Does this mean I have LCD or LED???

So my questions

1) Any confirmation that the inverter might be the problem?

2)  How do I know I am getting the correct replacement part? what is the part number?

Any advice is appreciated.  Thanks!

December 30th, 2014 17:00

Solved the problem and fixed my laptop.  I figured it was one of three things 1) the video cable, 2) the display itself or 3) the motherboard.  I decided to try the cable since the replacement part was only $20.  Ordered the cable from PartsPeople and also found instructions on their website on how to change the cable.  Took me 1-2 hours to take everything apart, replace the cable and put it all back together again.  But now it is working.

Thanks to everyone who had suggestions regarding this problem.

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April 25th, 2014 10:00

First, be sure your system has the latest BIOS release, which is A09 (to check, see the powerup screen).

If it doesn't, you should upgrade to the latest release.

Other thing to check is the opearation of the cover switch.  Attach an external monitor and close  the cover - the display should go off when you do.  The other thing to verify is that when the backlight cuts out, the external screen stays on -- if it doesn't, you morel ikely have a bad mainboard than a bad display panel.


Failing that, it's likely you have a bad backlight.

Your screen does not have an inverter - it is LED-backlit.   If the BIOS update doesn't help, you can replace the screen:

http://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=item&id=7723

and if that doesn't solve the problem,, it's the mainboard that's faulty.

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April 25th, 2014 10:00

HI,

This screen on this machine has a CCFL tube that lights up the background of the screen.

Yes, this unit has an LCD inverter for the CCFL.

Inverter:

http://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=category&id=148&subid=224&refine=inverter

VIDEO:

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April 25th, 2014 10:00

No, it doesn't.  "Light Emitting Diode" means the backlight is LED -- not CCFL.

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April 25th, 2014 11:00

No, it doesn't.  "Light Emitting Diode" means the backlight is LED -- not CCFL.

Open it up, and confirm for yourself.

Quote from Parts People:

"*This Studio 1735 1737 screen is a LED backlit LCD screen, and requires the LED style video cable(part # NU482) when changing from a CCFL screen. If you are unsure as what type of lcd backlighting your system has, please consult your service tag system configuration at www.support.dell.com or give us a call and we'd be glad to help."

Thus meaning you can have either one in that machine. I would like to safe you money and recommend you take a deeper look and see if your machine has an CCFL Inverter and replace it or the costly alternative is to get a NEW LED Backlight screen if it indeed doesn't have an Inverter in this model.

Thank you EJN63 for your info.

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April 25th, 2014 14:00

While you're correct that this model shipped with both types of screen, the description posted in the original question specifically indicates that it's LED.

The fact that it's a truelife screen (i.e., higher level than standard) cements that.

April 25th, 2014 15:00

Thanks for the comments thus far.  Now I see, of course, both screens are LCD but could have CCFL or LED backlighting.  The inverter is only needed for the CCFL because of the higher operating voltage of the CCFL.  Mine should be LED.

I still need to get this thing fixed.  

For a while, it  would only sometimes go black and then only on start up, Occasionally also when I was shutting the computer down the screen would flash white right at the end.  If it did that, I could be fairly sure it would be dark on the next start up.   it would never randomly go black while I was using it.  This makes me think the problem is NOT a loose connector.  There must be some circuit or process which controls the backlight LED.  I could replace the entire screen but would be a bummer if the problem turned out to be on the motherboard.

I think the BIOS is current but I will check this also.

I am using it now with an external monitor.  When I close the laptop the whole thing hibernates so the external monitor goes black.  The laptop monitor is always black now.

April 28th, 2014 08:00

BIOS is up to date.

I am trying to isolate this problem so I know what part needs to be replaced.The backlight was intermittent for a while - but only on boot up.  If it worked at start up then it continued to work, if it failed on startup then I had to reboot multiple times until I got it to work.  

Any other thoughts on how to determine if this is a problem with the screen, a connector or the motherboard?

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April 28th, 2014 09:00

About the only way is with the use of a multimeter -- if you have one.  If you don't, it's parts-swapping time.

April 28th, 2014 11:00

Yup.  Any suggestions as to where I could find pinout diagrams for the cable(s) leading into the display?

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