The monitor includes firmware that provides Faroudja video processing, which is used to provide the different "modes" ("desktop", "multimedia" and "gaming"). It works by converting RGB color data to YUV color data, so it can then manipulate color information in the YUV color space.
But clearly the conversion or manipulation results in the loss of some color information, hence the banding. Which is a shame, because it has the potential to be a cool feature (particularly if it was under user control).
If my understanding is correct, then there would be no way to fix the banding problem for all three modes, as the cause of the banding (the Faroudja video processing) is the very thing that is giving you those three modes. So if you turn off the Faroudja video processing, you wouldn't have those three modes anyway. The fix is to turn off the processing for "Desktop" mode, which seems a reasonable fix to me. Hopefully in future monitors they will find ways to do this sort of image processing without the loss of data.
My intention, once I have fixed monitors, is to completely forget that I have "gaming" and "multimedia" modes, and always just use "desktop" mode. I am very happy with these monitors apart from the banding, and I see little use for "gaming" and "multimedia" modes (yes, I play games lots on these monitors, but don't use "gaming" mode for that purpose).
I see very little difference when switching between Desktop, Multimedia, and Gaming. Disabling the processing in Desktop should be good enough for me but time will tell when they ship out the new monitor. Just to be clear here, the monitor will not automatically switch modes when watching a movie correct? So if i were to watch a movie, i could use Desktop mode which has the processing disabled and not experince banding?
No it shouldn't go off changing modes automatically. Unless you got like a Samsung 215TW, I don't the computer can issue instructions to the monitor.
I'm just wondering through any experience with gaming (hopefully receiving my 2007WFP soon), will fixing the banding by disabliing Faroudja, ACC and whatever else is effected do anything to the scaling? I ask this because my X800XL won't be able to do native res so my next best option is to pick a lower res widescreen then scale it up - will that scaling now look poor and pixelated?
really? your X800XL cant do 1680x1050? the reason i say that is because my Radeon 9800XT (an older model) displays the native resolution perfectly. Also as far as i know, even those old nvidia FX series can run these monitors at native rez.
really? your X800XL cant do 1680x1050? the reason i say that is because my Radeon 9800XT (an older model) displays the native resolution perfectly. Also as far as i know, even those old nvidia FX series can run these monitors at native rez.
I think he means it won't run games at that resolution (at a decent frame rate).
heh, yeah sorry i just realized that. Still, thats a pretty decent card, should be able to run most games at that resolution (minus some newer ones like oblivion, for that u'd have to sacrifice some other options. As a refrence, my 7800 GTX go (pretty great for a laptop card) can run that game at max settings with the native resolution of the 2007WFP)
My ATI Radeon 9700 Pro can handle games just fine on this thing.. Not some of the newer ones obviously (like Oblivion), but it runs HL2, WoW, etc fine.
DingoJunior
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June 7th, 2006 00:00
Here's my understanding:
The monitor includes firmware that provides Faroudja video processing, which is used to provide the different "modes" ("desktop", "multimedia" and "gaming"). It works by converting RGB color data to YUV color data, so it can then manipulate color information in the YUV color space.
But clearly the conversion or manipulation results in the loss of some color information, hence the banding. Which is a shame, because it has the potential to be a cool feature (particularly if it was under user control).
If my understanding is correct, then there would be no way to fix the banding problem for all three modes, as the cause of the banding (the Faroudja video processing) is the very thing that is giving you those three modes. So if you turn off the Faroudja video processing, you wouldn't have those three modes anyway. The fix is to turn off the processing for "Desktop" mode, which seems a reasonable fix to me. Hopefully in future monitors they will find ways to do this sort of image processing without the loss of data.
My intention, once I have fixed monitors, is to completely forget that I have "gaming" and "multimedia" modes, and always just use "desktop" mode. I am very happy with these monitors apart from the banding, and I see little use for "gaming" and "multimedia" modes (yes, I play games lots on these monitors, but don't use "gaming" mode for that purpose).
DingoJunior
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June 7th, 2006 01:00
Dufflover
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June 7th, 2006 02:00
No it shouldn't go off changing modes automatically. Unless you got like a Samsung 215TW, I don't the computer can issue instructions to the monitor.
I'm just wondering through any experience with gaming (hopefully receiving my 2007WFP soon), will fixing the banding by disabliing Faroudja, ACC and whatever else is effected do anything to the scaling?
I ask this because my X800XL won't be able to do native res so my next best option is to pick a lower res widescreen then scale it up - will that scaling now look poor and pixelated?
Message Edited by Dufflover on 06-07-200602:35 PM
Message Edited by Dufflover on 06-07-200602:35 PM
Deusx-Machina
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June 7th, 2006 22:00
DingoJunior
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June 7th, 2006 22:00
I think he means it won't run games at that resolution (at a decent frame rate).
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Deusx-Machina
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June 8th, 2006 14:00
motivez
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June 10th, 2006 13:00
Your card should handle it with ease