2 Network Card ?? ?? ??

Question

I have installed 2 network cards in a Dell Power Edge 4200 one is connected to a large format printer and the other is into a netgear router so i can share files and gain internet connectivity but im experience some issues. . . .

1. After booting up and logging in i can't ping the printer if i disable the network card that the printer is attached to then enable it i can then ping and print to the printer. I have to do this ever time i boot up unless i cannot connect to the printer.

2. I can gain Internet activity straight off no problems but when i try and connect to another machine plugged into the netgear router i can't.

My Set-up and what i can and cant do. . . . . .

Machine 1. Dell Power Edge Server 4200, Windows 2003 standard build and updated to the max..

Machine 2. Dell Dimension Workstation, Windows XP Pro dell standard build updated to the max..

Machine 1. I can only see that machine if i search the network, internet connectivity works, can ping machine 2 (machine name + ip address). haven’t touched and file sharing (don’t know if you need to), just checked that the root of the drive's are shared e.g. C$..

Machine 2. Can see both machines if i search the network can't ping machine name and i.p address of machine 1. I set this up by using the network set-up wizard and enabled which i turned on file and printer sharing. I also shared the root of the drives so you get the little shared hands to make sure everything was shared.

Any suggestions... ...

THANKS

RKinner · Answer

The mistake most people make with a second network card is to give it a Default Gateway address.  You should only put a Default Gateway address on the network card that connects to the internet.   You would have to open up the firewalls on the two PCs in order to allow them to talk.   Start, Run, cmd, OK to bring up a new black cmd screen and type(With Enter after each bold line)   ipconfig /all > junk.txt   notepad junk.txt   That should bring up the results of the ipconfig /all command.  Copy it and paste it into your next reply and I can give you some more tests to run.   Ron

Jonnycool · Answer

Ok im not actually at that site at the moment but i have a simalar issue at this site so if i do an ipconfig of that this one maybe you could help me out on this one as well..   Thanks

RKinner · Answer

Be glad to.  Things are really dull at work this week so I've got plenty of time.   Ron

Jonnycool · Answer

With this one i can everything on the network and when i try to ping it from another machine on the network it times out. . . hence i cant share the printer. . .

C:\Documents and Settings\administrator.BOXROOM>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

  Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Epson9800
  Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : XXXXXXXX.com
  Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
  IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
  WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
  DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : XXXXXXXX.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

  Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
  Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection
  Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-22-0B-61-8E
  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
  IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 185.0.0.35
  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
  Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 185.0.0.29
  DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 185.0.0.1
                                      185.0.0.2

Ethernet adapter Epson 9800:

  Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
  Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com Gigabit Ethernet Server NIC (SX/TX)
  Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-CF-20-67-A2
  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
  Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
  Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.201.248
  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
  Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\administrator.BOXROOM>

RKinner · Answer

The second card is the one that connects to the printer? Do you have it connected directly to the printer or is there a hub/switch in between? If connected directly you must have a crossover cable!

I suspect you will just have to assign it an IP address that is in the same subnet as the printer. The printer is not going to play DHCP server and assign one for you.

I'm not familiar with the printer but on my HP you can see and configure the IP address from the printer. Go over to the printer and get the IP address and mask that are assigned to it. If it's not assigned an IP address then assign it 10.10.10.2 with a mask of 255.255.255.0. Sometimes when you print a test page you get that information. If that's not an option then skip this step.

Go to your PC:

Click Start, open the Control Panel. If it says "Pick a category" up at the top, click the "Switch to Classic view" link in the top-left of the window. Click Network Connections. Ignore anything in the Dialup or Broadband sections - the connection to your modem or router will be in LAN or high-speed Internet.

There will probably be a Local Area Connection (the main link with IP address of 185.0.0.35) and then one for Epson 9800.

Right-click on the Epson 9800 icon and select Properties. On the General tab, click the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) component (you'll find it in the list in the top half of the window) and click the Properties button.

On the new window that opens you need to click on: Use the following IP address and then assign it an IP address of 10.10.10.1 (If your printer already has an ip address then use the same IP address + or -1 but not 0 or 255. By this I mean that if the IP address is A.B.C.5 you could use A.B.C.4 or A.B.C.6. I am assuming you are the only user trying to use this printer.) with mask 255.255.255.0. Leave everything else blank and then click on OK. Close the window then make a new ipconfig /all and post it as a reply. Let me know what address the printer has and what firewall you are using (default XP, Zone Alarm, ?, none).

If you couldn't get an IP address from the printer: Then close your firewall down and run your EpsonNet Print Server Software. It supposedly will locate all Epson printers on your network and allow you to select the new one and click Configuration then on the TCP/IP seelction screen you can set the 10.10.10.2 with mask of 255.255.255.0.

That should let you install the printer. Once you get it working you can usually turn your firewall back up and it will keep on working tho the firewall may ask you if it is OK.

Ron

Jonnycool · Answer

This is the config of the other server at a different site. I can connect to the server with the 2 network cards in it from the desktop machine but not the other way around..

Windows IP Configuration

  Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : spare2
  Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
  Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
  IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
  WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Network:

  Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
  Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com Gigabit Ethernet Server NIC (SX/TX)
  Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-CF-20-69-65
  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
  Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
  IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
  Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
  DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
  DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
  Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 13 February 2003 02:19:30
  Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 February 2003 02:19:30

Ethernet adapter Roland Printer:

  Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
  Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com Gigabit Ethernet Server NIC (SX/TX)
#2
  Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-CF-20-67-A1
  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
  IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.10.10.2
  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
  Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

RKinner · Answer

Turn the firewall off on the desktop machine.  Firewalls let you originate traffic from the inside but not the outside.     Ron

Jonnycool · Answer

Have done well i think i have these a few errors that pop up when i click on the control panel and items within there which makes me think that it may not be doing what its saying. It still has the original installation of windows xp that it was shipped with so their maybe some other firewall software on their. I may reinstall windows but i didn't get a copy of windows with the machine? ? ? it came with a copy of Symantec GHOST which isn’t really a substitute really, i think i'll give it a clean build anyway because its has a load of stuff that dell ship's it with that i don’t want or need..

RKinner · Answer

What is the ip address of the Desktop that can reach the server but that the server can't reach?   On the desktop box do:    Start, Run, cmd.exe, OK and when the black screen comes up type (with an Enter after each bold line)   tasklist > junk.txt   notepad junk.txt   This should bring up the results of the tasklist command in notepad so you can copy it and paste it into a Reply.   Ron

sm00x · Answer

so a very simple answer - on a server you use STATIC IP's, not DHCP. DHCP is for workstations. And you use different subnets on each NIC. Problem solved. but.. i have a silly question here... WHY do you need the printer on a different network card??? Just put it on the LAN. Permissions? Ok, put it on the LAN with a different IP and add another IP to the servers NIC. as for the file sharing and stuff... you DON'T share root drives. Just don't! No questions! Is Windows 2003 a domain controller? Then join the workstation into that domain. And if you need an IT administator - ask me :-)

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