Have you reset everything before connecting. Shut down the modem, router, and computers. Turn on the modem and give it 5 minutes to sychronized with the network. Then turn on the router and wait another minute or so, then turn on the computers. After doing this, check to see if you are getting an IP address from the router by going to Start > Run and typing cmd to get a command prompt, then typing ipconfig /all. Report back what you find.
Also manually try changing the speed and duplex of your NIC on your PC, as it could be an autonegotiation issue with your Ethernet PC NIC and the router port ,which is causing the problem. Step through the following scenarios and see if link is restored - working from the lowest common denominator
10 M - Half Duplex
10M Full Duplex
100M Half Duplex
100M Full Duplex
You should hopefully find a combination that works.....iand gives you a working connection
How do I check 10m half duplex, 10m full duplex, etc.?
I've gone to the Dell help and support area, typed in NIC, got a number of hits, but nothing that I saw that referrewd to half or full duplex. (Other than the Glossary)
I did what you suggested re ipconfig/all and have all the info if you still need it. However, when I posted my first message, I had not yet put the oval adapter into a USB port. I have now done so. Sorry for that false alley.
The results are different, but I still cannot get on the Web.
The PC now says that there is a wireles connection. (By the way, why does it say that? The only connection so far is wired.) But when I launch IE, the page still cannot be found.
Now I'm confused. What is your intention to connect this PC to the router? Do you want to connect wired or wireless? If you want to connect to the same router, then you need to disable the adapter you won't be using or unplug the cable. Decide which one you want to configure first, then report back the results of the ipconfig command.
Hi Steve, Thanks for getting back. For now I just want to wire the DSL modem to the router and wire the router to the desktop. When that's done, I'll want to add my laptop to the mix and get to my desktop and the web wirelessly.
I saved the results of the ipconfig to a word doc but when I paste that info to this message I get a page full of errors. How should I give u the results of the ipconfig?
You can open notepad and paste it into notepad first, then copy it from notepad and paste into the forum. The problem with Word is that it adds a bunch of html to the text when it copies to the forum and some of the html tag are not allowed in the forum.
Hi Steve, thanks for the tip. For now I only want to hardwire from my DSL modem to the router and from the router hardwire to the desktop and be able to get on the web. When that works I want to add my laptop wirelessly and be able to access the desktop and the web wirelessly from the laptop.
Hans
Widows XP (Version 5.1.2600)
Hostname THEDESKTOP2003 Primary DNS Suffix blank Node Type Hybrid IP Routing Enabled yes Wins Proxy Enabled No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection
Connection-Specific DNS suffix: Blank Description Intel pro/100 VE Network Connection
Connection-specific DNS Suffix blank Description WAN Interface Physical Address 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled No IP Address 66.32.17.58 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway 66.32.17.58 DNS Servers 207.69.188.187 207.69.188.186 NetBIOS over Tcpip Disabled
The ipconfig /all ouput shows that you are not getting an IP address from the router. When the cables are plugged in between the router and the ethernet card on the computer, are the link lights lit for the port on the route and on the network card (next to where you plug it in)? Unless the link lights are lit, you will not get a connection. Have you tried different ports on the router to see if it might be a bad port? You say it works when you connect directly to the modem, is that correct? You also mentioned something about USB in one of your previous messages. What were you referring to in your mention of USB?
Yes, the lights are lit. I have tried all ports on the router. When I said "it works..." I meant that I get a connection when I bypass the router and connect the PC directly to the modem - i.e. it's not the modem. I mentioned USB when I told you that I connected the oval adapter to the PC via USB. I've since disconnected that.
I believe that the connections are physically OK because when I replace the router with my old lynksys router, i.e. doing nothing but pulling the modem wire out of the Dell router and plugging it into the Lincsys and pulling the port wire out of the Dell router and plugging it into the Linksys everything is OK.
It sounds to me that there is something wrong with the router. Since it works connected directly to the modem and it works when connected through a different router, but it doesn't work when connected to the TM2300. You didn't install the software that came with the 2300 did you? There are lots of reports of that not working. Just a few more things to try. First, with the router connected to the computer, go to the command prompt again and type ipconfig /release /renew (note the spaces before each "/"). I doubt that you will get an IP address, but you should try this anyway. Second, althoughI doubt that you would be able to use the web based configuration utility because you are not getting an IP address from the 2300, but you can try it anyway. Open Internt Explorer and type http://192.168.2.1 into the address bar and see if the configuration utility comes up.
The username and password you need is the one for the router, not for your isp. You are connecting to the router at this point, not to the internet. See your user manual for the username and password for the router. It is still at the default values unless you changed it (admin and admin): Did you read the information in your users manual about how to use the web based configuration utility? The fact that you can connect to the router is telling us that the router and the computer can communicate. The problem right now is that the router is not giving the network card an IP address. Once you get into the router's configuration utility, follow the instructions in the user manual to set things up correctly, then reboot and see if you get an IP address.
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Have you reset everything before connecting. Shut down the modem, router, and computers. Turn on the modem and give it 5 minutes to sychronized with the network. Then turn on the router and wait another minute or so, then turn on the computers. After doing this, check to see if you are getting an IP address from the router by going to Start > Run and typing cmd to get a command prompt, then typing ipconfig /all. Report back what you find.
Steve
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January 14th, 2004 14:00
10 M - Half Duplex
10M Full Duplex
100M Half Duplex
100M Full Duplex
You should hopefully find a combination that works.....iand gives you a working connection
Hanshof
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January 14th, 2004 21:00
Hi Sentinel-Master
How do I check 10m half duplex, 10m full duplex, etc.?
I've gone to the Dell help and support area, typed in NIC, got a number of hits, but nothing that I saw that referrewd to half or full duplex. (Other than the Glossary)
Hans
Hanshof
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January 14th, 2004 22:00
Hi Steve,
I did what you suggested re ipconfig/all and have all the info if you still need it. However, when I posted my first message, I had not yet put the oval adapter into a USB port. I have now done so. Sorry for that false alley.
The results are different, but I still cannot get on the Web.
The PC now says that there is a wireles connection. (By the way, why does it say that? The only connection so far is wired.) But when I launch IE, the page still cannot be found.
Hans
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Now I'm confused. What is your intention to connect this PC to the router? Do you want to connect wired or wireless? If you want to connect to the same router, then you need to disable the adapter you won't be using or unplug the cable. Decide which one you want to configure first, then report back the results of the ipconfig command.
Steve
Hanshof
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January 15th, 2004 23:00
Hi Steve, Thanks for getting back. For now I just want to wire the DSL modem to the router and wire the router to the desktop. When that's done, I'll want to add my laptop to the mix and get to my desktop and the web wirelessly.
I saved the results of the ipconfig to a word doc but when I paste that info to this message I get a page full of errors. How should I give u the results of the ipconfig?
Hans
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You can open notepad and paste it into notepad first, then copy it from notepad and paste into the forum. The problem with Word is that it adds a bunch of html to the text when it copies to the forum and some of the html tag are not allowed in the forum.
Steve
Hanshof
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January 16th, 2004 18:00
Hi Steve, thanks for the tip. For now I only want to hardwire from my DSL modem to the router and from the router hardwire to the desktop and be able to get on the web. When that works I want to add my laptop wirelessly and be able to access the desktop and the web wirelessly from the laptop.
Hans
Widows XP (Version 5.1.2600)
Hostname THEDESKTOP2003
Primary DNS Suffix blank
Node Type Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled yes
Wins Proxy Enabled No
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection
Connection-Specific DNS suffix: Blank
Description Intel pro/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address 00-0C-F1-6C-CE-57
Dhcp enabled Yes
Autoconfiguration enabled Yes
Autoconfiguration IP address 169.254.106.108
Subnet Mask 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway blank
PPP adapter Earthlink (my address)
Connection-specific DNS Suffix blank
Description WAN Interface
Physical Address 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled No
IP Address 66.32.17.58
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway 66.32.17.58
DNS Servers 207.69.188.187
207.69.188.186
NetBIOS over Tcpip Disabled
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The ipconfig /all ouput shows that you are not getting an IP address from the router. When the cables are plugged in between the router and the ethernet card on the computer, are the link lights lit for the port on the route and on the network card (next to where you plug it in)? Unless the link lights are lit, you will not get a connection. Have you tried different ports on the router to see if it might be a bad port? You say it works when you connect directly to the modem, is that correct? You also mentioned something about USB in one of your previous messages. What were you referring to in your mention of USB?
Steve
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January 16th, 2004 22:00
Hi Steve, re your last message:
Yes, the lights are lit. I have tried all ports on the router. When I said "it works..." I meant that I get a connection when I bypass the router and connect the PC directly to the modem - i.e. it's not the modem. I mentioned USB when I told you that I connected the oval adapter to the PC via USB. I've since disconnected that.
I believe that the connections are physically OK because when I replace the router with my old lynksys router, i.e. doing nothing but pulling the modem wire out of the Dell router and plugging it into the Lincsys and pulling the port wire out of the Dell router and plugging it into the Linksys everything is OK.
Hans
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It sounds to me that there is something wrong with the router. Since it works connected directly to the modem and it works when connected through a different router, but it doesn't work when connected to the TM2300. You didn't install the software that came with the 2300 did you? There are lots of reports of that not working. Just a few more things to try. First, with the router connected to the computer, go to the command prompt again and type ipconfig /release /renew (note the spaces before each "/"). I doubt that you will get an IP address, but you should try this anyway. Second, althoughI doubt that you would be able to use the web based configuration utility because you are not getting an IP address from the 2300, but you can try it anyway. Open Internt Explorer and type http://192.168.2.1 into the address bar and see if the configuration utility comes up.
Steve
Hanshof
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January 17th, 2004 18:00
Hi Steve,
Thanks for hanging in there. I appreciate it very much.
Re. installing the 2300 software, I did run the setup. (Put in the disk in, got welcome message and I hit Installation.)
I ran the ipconfig /release /renew and got "operation failed as no adapter is in the state permissable for this operation"
Put 192.168.2.1 in the IE address bar and got a 'Dell TruMobile 2300 Wreless Router' popup asking for a username and password.
I enterd my earthlink address and eathlink password and got Error 401 Unauthorized
Hans
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The username and password you need is the one for the router, not for your isp. You are connecting to the router at this point, not to the internet. See your user manual for the username and password for the router. It is still at the default values unless you changed it (admin and admin): Did you read the information in your users manual about how to use the web based configuration utility? The fact that you can connect to the router is telling us that the router and the computer can communicate. The problem right now is that the router is not giving the network card an IP address. Once you get into the router's configuration utility, follow the instructions in the user manual to set things up correctly, then reboot and see if you get an IP address.
The online version of the user manual is at:
http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/network/p57205/en/index.htm
Steve
Hanshof
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January 17th, 2004 21:00
Hi Steve
That did it. I just never got to the point where the router wanted a user name and password.
Thanks for all your help. Very much appreciated!
Hans
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January 17th, 2004 21:00
So, does the internet connection now work?
Steve