Try changing the "Working Mode" located on the Dynamic Routing tab in the broswer based configurator of the BEFW11S4 from Gateway (the default) to Router.
I had tried that to begin with and again with no luck. The Wireless Card can associate with the now "access point" but can not find the internet connection. The network connection on that node is valid so that can be ruled out.
The problem setting this thing up comes from the fact that you have to chnage the LAN IP Address to something other than 192.168.1.1 (I'm using 192.168.1.50) which means you have to access the setup page from the former URL, which is difficult for some reason.
This shouldn't be that difficult and I'm guessing there is some obscure setting I am missing. Even the Linksys reps disagreed on the settings! I always wondered why the WAP11 AP's were priced as much as the Wireless Routers, now I know why.
How is the BEFW11S4 physically connected to the BEFSR41? Straight-through cat 5 cable from the BEFW11S4's WAN port to a LAN port in the BEFSR41? Is the WAN side of the BEFW11S4 configured with a static IP address or is getting its addressing information dynamically from the BEFSR41?
Can you confirm that the WPC11 is not getting an IP address. If it is not getting a 192.168.x.x address, is it getting anything at all, even an auto config address? Try disabling the ethernet network adapter in the laptop using Device Manager.
How is the BEFW11S4 physically connected to the BEFSR41? Straight-through cat 5 cable from the BEFW11S4's WAN port to a LAN port in the BEFSR41? The 11S4 is connected to a switch from the uplink port on the BEFSR41. All other devices on that switch are working fine.
Is the WAN side of the BEFW11S4 configured with a static IP address or is getting its addressing information dynamically from the BEFSR41? The BEFW11S4 has a designated a static address of 192.168.1.50.
Can you confirm that the WPC11 is not getting an IP address. If it is not getting a 192.168.x.x address, is it getting anything at all, even an auto config address? Try disabling the ethernet network adapter in the laptop using Device Manager. The WPC11 can associate with the BEFW11S4 can not not get to the internet.
Just spent 45 minutes online with Linksys and they want me to try this(most of what I have already done). All has to be done while disconnected from the LAN.
Change working mode to router instead of gateway (done)
Set Static IP Address of 192.168.1.50 (done)
Copy the DNS SErver info form the BEFSR41 wired router over to the WPC11 an set the card for the same static IP address of 192.168.1.50 and ALSO add the DNS info into the DHCP tab under TCP/IP properties. Thsi last part is new.
Power down everthing..then restart modem and wait to stabilize, restart wired router, then power up the LAN.
"The BEFW11S4 has a designated a static address of 192.168.1.50." - OK, that's the WAN side. What about the LAN side, which would normally be 192.168.1.1 (which, of course, is the LAN IP address of the BEFSR41).
"The WPC11 can associate with the BEFW11S4 can not not get to the internet." - OK, but the question was, is the WPC11 getting an IP address from anywhere, even auto config?
"....and set the card for the same static IP address of 192.168.1.50 and ALSO add the DNS info into the DHCP tab under TCP/IP properties" - Seems to me the last address to be configured into the WPC11 would be the WAN address of the BEFW11S4. Rather it should be the LAN address of the BEFW11S4 or the LAN address of the BEFSR41.
Sorry, the BEFSR41 gets a Dynamic Address from Charter which is seen by the outsoide world as 192.168.1.1. Now the BEFW11S$ has a designated LAN IP Address od 192.168.1.50
NO, the WPC11 is not getting an address.
Last note worth pondering. Whenever I configure the WPC11 with the same LAN address as the BEFW11S4 (192.168.1.50) I ma getting an IP Address Conflict Notice. So are you saying that the WPC11 should have a Dynamic Address as served by the BEFSR41, if so, the DNS information is on the DHCP Tab of the wireless router. I had to manually put it i there. Seems like this may be the issue.
"Whenever I configure the WPC11 with the same LAN address as the BEFW11S4 (192.168.1.50) I ma getting an IP Address Conflict Notice" - Yes, that would be expected, since every addressable device on the local network must have a unique address.
"So are you saying that the WPC11 should have a Dynamic Address as served by the BEFSR41, if so, the DNS information is on the DHCP Tab of the wireless router. I had to manually put it i there. Seems like this may be the issue." - Yes, ideally the WPC11 should get all its addressing information (including DNS and gateway) from the DHCP server in the BEFSR41. The BEFW11S4 should be invisible on the network. It doesn't sound like it is yet. Configuring the BEFW11S4 with static addresses (both WAN and LAN) is simply a convenience so that the browser based configurator can be accessed, and it will avoid addressing conflicts with the BEFSR41.
Another option to get this to (possibly) work is to configure the BEFW11S4 as a gateway, using a completely different private addressing range, say 10.168.1.xxx. Let the BEFW11S4 get a private 192.168.1.xxx address from the BEFSR41. Assign the address 10.168.1.1 to the LAN side of the BEFW11S4 and also configure the BEFW11S4 to assign addresses starting at 10.168.1.100 for the attached LAN devices. The attached wireless PCs should get their addressing from the BEFW11S4 which gets its addressing from the BEFSR41 which gets its addressing from the ISP. Sounds like the internet, only smaller.
I had thought of that but tried to keep it simple, sounds like a simple concept. This wlll have to wait until tomorrow night.
Actually you're doing nothing more than subnetting the LAN with a smaller LAN. That's what I thought coould be done in the first place but the "experts" from Linksys said no. Common sense told me otherwise.
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November 2nd, 2003 22:00
jmwills,
Try changing the "Working Mode" located on the Dynamic Routing tab in the broswer based configurator of the BEFW11S4 from Gateway (the default) to Router.
jmwills
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November 3rd, 2003 11:00
I had tried that to begin with and again with no luck. The Wireless Card can associate with the now "access point" but can not find the internet connection. The network connection on that node is valid so that can be ruled out.
The problem setting this thing up comes from the fact that you have to chnage the LAN IP Address to something other than 192.168.1.1 (I'm using 192.168.1.50) which means you have to access the setup page from the former URL, which is difficult for some reason.
This shouldn't be that difficult and I'm guessing there is some obscure setting I am missing. Even the Linksys reps disagreed on the settings! I always wondered why the WAP11 AP's were priced as much as the Wireless Routers, now I know why.
Appreciate any thoughts or suggestions.
_Paladin
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November 3rd, 2003 12:00
jmwills,
How is the BEFW11S4 physically connected to the BEFSR41? Straight-through cat 5 cable from the BEFW11S4's WAN port to a LAN port in the BEFSR41? Is the WAN side of the BEFW11S4 configured with a static IP address or is getting its addressing information dynamically from the BEFSR41?
Can you confirm that the WPC11 is not getting an IP address. If it is not getting a 192.168.x.x address, is it getting anything at all, even an auto config address? Try disabling the ethernet network adapter in the laptop using Device Manager.
"This shouldn't be that difficult..." - Agreed.
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November 3rd, 2003 13:00
How is the BEFW11S4 physically connected to the BEFSR41? Straight-through cat 5 cable from the BEFW11S4's WAN port to a LAN port in the BEFSR41? The 11S4 is connected to a switch from the uplink port on the BEFSR41. All other devices on that switch are working fine.
Is the WAN side of the BEFW11S4 configured with a static IP address or is getting its addressing information dynamically from the BEFSR41? The BEFW11S4 has a designated a static address of 192.168.1.50.
Can you confirm that the WPC11 is not getting an IP address. If it is not getting a 192.168.x.x address, is it getting anything at all, even an auto config address? Try disabling the ethernet network adapter in the laptop using Device Manager. The WPC11 can associate with the BEFW11S4 can not not get to the internet.
Just spent 45 minutes online with Linksys and they want me to try this(most of what I have already done). All has to be done while disconnected from the LAN.
Change working mode to router instead of gateway (done)
Set Static IP Address of 192.168.1.50 (done)
Copy the DNS SErver info form the BEFSR41 wired router over to the WPC11 an set the card for the same static IP address of 192.168.1.50 and ALSO add the DNS info into the DHCP tab under TCP/IP properties. Thsi last part is new.
Power down everthing..then restart modem and wait to stabilize, restart wired router, then power up the LAN.
I'm out of ideas after this.
_Paladin
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November 3rd, 2003 19:00
jmwills,
"The BEFW11S4 has a designated a static address of 192.168.1.50." - OK, that's the WAN side. What about the LAN side, which would normally be 192.168.1.1 (which, of course, is the LAN IP address of the BEFSR41).
"The WPC11 can associate with the BEFW11S4 can not not get to the internet." - OK, but the question was, is the WPC11 getting an IP address from anywhere, even auto config?
"....and set the card for the same static IP address of 192.168.1.50 and ALSO add the DNS info into the DHCP tab under TCP/IP properties" - Seems to me the last address to be configured into the WPC11 would be the WAN address of the BEFW11S4. Rather it should be the LAN address of the BEFW11S4 or the LAN address of the BEFSR41.
jmwills
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November 3rd, 2003 21:00
Sorry, the BEFSR41 gets a Dynamic Address from Charter which is seen by the outsoide world as 192.168.1.1. Now the BEFW11S$ has a designated LAN IP Address od 192.168.1.50
NO, the WPC11 is not getting an address.
Last note worth pondering. Whenever I configure the WPC11 with the same LAN address as the BEFW11S4 (192.168.1.50) I ma getting an IP Address Conflict Notice. So are you saying that the WPC11 should have a Dynamic Address as served by the BEFSR41, if so, the DNS information is on the DHCP Tab of the wireless router. I had to manually put it i there. Seems like this may be the issue.
_Paladin
795 Posts
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November 3rd, 2003 22:00
jmwills,
"Whenever I configure the WPC11 with the same LAN address as the BEFW11S4 (192.168.1.50) I ma getting an IP Address Conflict Notice" - Yes, that would be expected, since every addressable device on the local network must have a unique address.
"So are you saying that the WPC11 should have a Dynamic Address as served by the BEFSR41, if so, the DNS information is on the DHCP Tab of the wireless router. I had to manually put it i there. Seems like this may be the issue." - Yes, ideally the WPC11 should get all its addressing information (including DNS and gateway) from the DHCP server in the BEFSR41. The BEFW11S4 should be invisible on the network. It doesn't sound like it is yet. Configuring the BEFW11S4 with static addresses (both WAN and LAN) is simply a convenience so that the browser based configurator can be accessed, and it will avoid addressing conflicts with the BEFSR41.
Another option to get this to (possibly) work is to configure the BEFW11S4 as a gateway, using a completely different private addressing range, say 10.168.1.xxx. Let the BEFW11S4 get a private 192.168.1.xxx address from the BEFSR41. Assign the address 10.168.1.1 to the LAN side of the BEFW11S4 and also configure the BEFW11S4 to assign addresses starting at 10.168.1.100 for the attached LAN devices. The attached wireless PCs should get their addressing from the BEFW11S4 which gets its addressing from the BEFSR41 which gets its addressing from the ISP. Sounds like the internet, only smaller.
jmwills
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November 4th, 2003 01:00
I had thought of that but tried to keep it simple, sounds like a simple concept. This wlll have to wait until tomorrow night.
Actually you're doing nothing more than subnetting the LAN with a smaller LAN. That's what I thought coould be done in the first place but the "experts" from Linksys said no. Common sense told me otherwise.
Thanks, I'll try that suggestion and post back.
Message Edited by jmwills on 11-04-2003 09:17 AM