I also have the same problem. Wireless connection okay, but I am trying to set up a dial up connection so that when I am on vacation and the condo doesn't have wireless I can dial up and keep working. I have entered the dial up connection information probably 4 times and everytime I click on CONNECT TO from the start menu the only option I see is my wireless connection....sigh...I can't figure this one out. this is a new inspiron 1525 with vista Home Premium, integrated modem. help?
My daughter is having exactly the same problem with dial up on a Dell laptop. She has not installed any new software on the machine and even after Dell replaced the motherboard and the modem, the problem is continuing. She has tried it on my telephone line (I have no problems with either dial up or broadband) but with the same result. Technical support seem at a loss to know what to do next. I use XP and have suggested she ask to have XP installed instead of Vista.
yes, wouldn't it have been nice to have a choice in operating systems? I was finally able to get the information saved for my dial-up from home....don't even know how it finally saved it. I checked the modem, tested it and then maybe after many shutdowns and restarts and reentering it finally figured I was serious. I will wait until I am actually on my trip now to enter the dial up info from there and just hope it works! Make sure your daughter also checks the modem (can search at start menu) and tests it....maybe that was the key to "activating" it so to speak.
I didn't make it clear enough in my original post that my daughter manages to connect OK but then the connection drops perhaps after a minute or perhaps after half an hour or more. This happens repeatedly.
I googled the problem and came across quite a lot of similar problems and Vista seemed to be a common factor. No definite solutions offered (unless you paid to see it!) but one person suggested it could be related to automatic power saving and suggested the following:
"Disable the UAC reboot
Goto control pane phone and modems
you may have to put in your area code.
goto the modem tab
select modem hit properties
hit the advance tab. type in extra initialization commands type.
+ms=v34
hit apply okay whatever. Reboot. Turn on the UAC reboot
Try the internet."
There was no indication though whether this had worked or not.
As a very inexperienced user, my daughter doesn't want to risk changing settings which might make things worse. So she waits to see if Dell technical support can come up with anything.
Yes, I am very glad I insisted on XP when I got my new computer from Dell last autumn!
Thanks for the added information. Since you state you are getting connected, that's the biggest hurdle. However the disconnects can be difficult to troubleshoot.
A couple questions to consider:
Do you have other systems at this location and if so, are they experiencing the disconnects as well?
Have you tried connecting to your ISP from a friends house or seperate location?
If you can eliminate the location as a problem and narrow it down to the individual system, you may try connecting in "Safe Mode w/Networking" to eliminate a software issue on the laptop.
There is only one system and my daughter has tried it at my home where I have had no problems with dial up. It still disconnects at my home. We'll try the safe mode.
While i had the computer I looked in the event log and found ACPI errors - many instances of the same error which was "IRQARB ACPI bios does not contain and IRQ for the device in PCI slot 5 function 0". I managed to discover that the wireless card is in pci slot 5 but device manager says its working OK. Might this be relevant.
I also ran SFC/scannow and got a message at the end that some files could not be repaired.
That's got me to the end of the little technical expertise I have!
Thanks. She will try this. However, I got a reply from another source of help which suggests that Visa is not suitable for dial up because:
"Its true that Vista is not designed to use dial up, for the simple reason that many updates are just too large for dial up to cope with.
The result would be great expense by paying a lot to stay online for downloads that are unsuccesful because the longer they take the more likely they are to be corrupted. Also it means tying up the phone for long periods of time. With broadband you can use the phone and internet at the same time.
There will be a back log of Vista updates waiting to be downloaded which will be causing more problems on the line and this will further slow the computer or even freeze it." (end of quote)
If that is correct, surely Dell should be putting a warning on their systems about trying to use dial up rather than assuming that everyone will be on broadband. Especially if I'm right in thinking that Visa updates are set to load automatically when the system is received!
i wish i would have knowen this when i called my sales rep,because Dial-up is the only choice where i live,Bell has been promissing highspeed since 2004,hard to belive that in 2008 we still cant get it
Maybe you need to do as I posted previously with the modem:
I checked the modem, tested it and then maybe after many shutdowns and restarts and reentering it finally figured I was serious. I will wait until I am actually on my trip now to enter the dial up info from there and just hope it works! Make sure your daughter also checks the modem (can search at start menu) and tests it....maybe that was the key to "activating" it so to speak.
Thanks for response but I think her problem is not quite the same as yours because if she switches back to ordinary boot up she can connect- it's just that it keeps dropping. I still wonder whether that message in the event log is significant - the one about IRQs which seems to relate to network cards.
DELL-Chris B
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February 5th, 2008 13:00
Thanks for visiting the Dell Community Forums.
As far as I'm aware, Vista has no issues with dial up connections.
Which system and modem do you have? Are you receiving any errors when making connection attempts?
stampnbeauty
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February 6th, 2008 19:00
annecel
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February 7th, 2008 07:00
stampnbeauty
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February 7th, 2008 09:00
yes, wouldn't it have been nice to have a choice in operating systems? I was finally able to get the information saved for my dial-up from home....don't even know how it finally saved it. I checked the modem, tested it and then maybe after many shutdowns and restarts and reentering it finally figured I was serious. I will wait until I am actually on my trip now to enter the dial up info from there and just hope it works! Make sure your daughter also checks the modem (can search at start menu) and tests it....maybe that was the key to "activating" it so to speak.
Janos
annecel
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February 7th, 2008 17:00
I googled the problem and came across quite a lot of similar problems and Vista seemed to be a common factor. No definite solutions offered (unless you paid to see it!) but one person suggested it could be related to automatic power saving and suggested the following:
"Disable the UAC reboot
Goto control pane phone and modems
you may have to put in your area code.
goto the modem tab
select modem hit properties
hit the advance tab.
type in extra initialization commands type.
+ms=v34
hit apply okay whatever. Reboot. Turn on the UAC reboot
Try the internet."
There was no indication though whether this had worked or not.
As a very inexperienced user, my daughter doesn't want to risk changing settings which might make things worse. So she waits to see if Dell technical support can come up with anything.Yes, I am very glad I insisted on XP when I got my new computer from Dell last autumn!
DELL-Chris B
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February 11th, 2008 12:00
Thanks for the added information. Since you state you are getting connected, that's the biggest hurdle. However the disconnects can be difficult to troubleshoot.
A couple questions to consider:
Do you have other systems at this location and if so, are they experiencing the disconnects as well?
Have you tried connecting to your ISP from a friends house or seperate location?
If you can eliminate the location as a problem and narrow it down to the individual system, you may try connecting in "Safe Mode w/Networking" to eliminate a software issue on the laptop.
annecel
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February 11th, 2008 14:00
annecel
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February 11th, 2008 14:00
While i had the computer I looked in the event log and found ACPI errors - many instances of the same error which was "IRQARB ACPI bios does not contain and IRQ for the device in PCI slot 5 function 0". I managed to discover that the wireless card is in pci slot 5 but device manager says its working OK. Might this be relevant.
I also ran SFC/scannow and got a message at the end that some files could not be repaired.
That's got me to the end of the little technical expertise I have!
DELL-Chris B
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February 12th, 2008 15:00
Reboot your computer and when you see the Dell Splash Screen, start tapping the F8 key.
You should then be presented with an option to boot windows into "Safe Mode with Networking".
annecel
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February 14th, 2008 11:00
"Its true that Vista is not designed to use dial up, for the simple reason that many updates are just too large for dial up to cope with.
The result would be great expense by paying a lot to stay online for downloads that are unsuccesful because the longer they take the more likely they are to be corrupted. Also it means tying up the phone for long periods of time. With broadband you can use the phone and internet at the same time.
There will be a back log of Vista updates waiting to be downloaded which will be causing more problems on the line and this will further slow the computer or even freeze it." (end of quote)
If that is correct, surely Dell should be putting a warning on their systems about trying to use dial up rather than assuming that everyone will be on broadband. Especially if I'm right in thinking that Visa updates are set to load automatically when the system is received!
mike3960
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February 14th, 2008 22:00
hi
this is exactly what i was told by the Dell tec.
i wish i would have knowen this when i called my sales rep,because Dial-up is the only choice where i live,Bell has been promissing highspeed since 2004,hard to belive that in 2008 we still cant get it
annecel
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February 15th, 2008 19:00
"Windows cannot find any network".
She thought perhaps the dial up connection she had set up might have gone so went in to "set up dial up" and got the message:
"Windows cannot detect a dial up modem. Is the modem connected? Is the modem switched on?"
The modem was connected and as it is internal, presumably switched on. What does this suggest is wrong?
Thanks
stampnbeauty
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February 16th, 2008 10:00
Maybe you need to do as I posted previously with the modem:
I checked the modem, tested it and then maybe after many shutdowns and restarts and reentering it finally figured I was serious. I will wait until I am actually on my trip now to enter the dial up info from there and just hope it works! Make sure your daughter also checks the modem (can search at start menu) and tests it....maybe that was the key to "activating" it so to speak.
stampnbeauty
annecel
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February 17th, 2008 09:00