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April 15th, 2008 06:00
Wireless NETGEAR Super G ??
DELL 3100 - P4 @ 3.06 Ghz 533fsb -2 Ghz PC2-5300 RAM - Seagate 500GB 7200 rpm HDD -WinXP Home SP3, with APC model BE650R UPS, 19" BENQ Flatscreen, Soundblaster X-1, Altec-Lansing speakers, Microsft Wireless desktop, Canon MP470 3-in-1 P/S/C
DELL 600 - P3 @ 600 Mhz 133fsb -768 Mhz. P-133 RAM Maxtor 60GB 7200rpm HDD - 5-port USB 2.0 PCI card, WinXP Home SP3, with APC model 280 UPS, 17" DELL Flatscreen and Soundblaster Audigy, Altec-Lansing speakers, Logitech Wireless desktop, HP 935C Printer.
NETGEAR WPN 824 v2 Rangemax "G" Router connected to General Instruments SurfBoard Cable Modem
DELL 3100 is Host, with Rangemax "G" WG111 USB 2.0 adapter - connected @ 108 mbps.
DELL 600 is Slave, with Rangemax "Super G" WG111T USB 2.0 adapter - connected @ 108mbps.
Although my newer model adapter (WG111TNA) says on the box that it has 2 times the speed and 4 times the coverage of the earlier model WG111, there is no difference in the signal strength detected by the software when the adapters are swapped from one machine to the other.
The host computer's adapter is mounted directly on the back of the computer, about 42 inches and 1 foot lower from the router, while the Slave's adapter is at the same height from the floor as the router, but 22 feet away, with the signal traveling through 1 cinder-block wall, across the kitchen, and through an interior framed wall.
The Slave's adapter is mounted on a 6-foot USB 2.0 cable, above and away from the computer.
The Host computer's signal registers as "Excellent".
The Slave computer's signal registers "Very Good".
Swapping the different model of adapters (and their different software) from one machine to the other makes no difference at all in the signal-strength readings on either machine -- and both machines maintain their connection speeds of 108mbps.
Is it correct to assume that the newer model WG111TNA "Super G" adapter is limited by the router, and that the upgraded technology of the newer adapter is wasted !???
Will I have to junk the whole Router and both Adapters package and go with the new "N" technology to maintain balanced performance -- or should I just shut up and be happy with my 108mbps connection speeds !???
That 8-year-old DELL 600 is maxed out in every respect -- even running WinXP Home-SP3 -- and it still does a fine job as a general-purpose machine -- but I don't wanna shuck out any more cash for tricked-out wireless gear when I've already got a reliable 108mbps connection speed from both machines.
Please tell me somethin' I want to hear !!
Peace.
Slik
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NemesisDB
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April 15th, 2008 15:00
N devices need other N devices to get their true benefit.
If you're just using wireless to share the internet, this is all wasted money...
NemesisDB
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April 15th, 2008 16:00
what exactly were you looking for in terms of instruction? a wireless N device will not operate at N speeds with G (or "super" G) devices.
Super G is a proprietary atheros extention to the 802.11g standard. It only works with other super G enabled atheros chipsets.
All of these devices are a waste of money if you're solely using your network for internet sharing because the average home broadband speed is 8mbps or less.
SlikLizrd
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April 15th, 2008 16:00
Thank you for your response -- but I was looking for something more than what could be written on a bumper-sticker.
The readers of these forums are often looking to learn, and although I believe your response was well-intentioned, it most certainly wasn't instructional.
Peace.
Slik
SlikLizrd
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April 15th, 2008 17:00
The only thing I learned after both of your responses was that, in your opinion, the average home broadband speed is 8mbps. You gave no indication as to how you arrived at that figure.
My Netgear's software indicates a real-time connection speed of 38-54 mbps, while other software indicates connections at 108mbps on both the old and new computers.
Using the lowest indicated real-time connection speed figure of 38 mbps, it appears that, even with my un-balanced equipment, my lowest connection-speed figure is 4.75 times greater than "average".
Is this what you mean when you say I'm wasting my money !???
Nothing personal, of course, but do they pay you to respond to us as if we're merely pests !??
Just wondering.
Peace.
Slik
volcano11
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April 15th, 2008 19:00
For internet connections, 802.11N is a waster of money, as Nemisis has said. The fastest cable broadband internet connection is currenlty on the order of 20 Mbps. Since this is slower than even an 802.11G wireless network at 54 Mbps (not including overhead), why would a faster Super G or Wireless N do you any good with regard to connecting to the internet? Yes transfers among computers on the local network will be faster, but as soon as they reach the cable or dsl modem (and thus the internet) the speed will drop to whatever the ISP provides.
Also note that this is a user to user forum. We are not paid anything to help people on this forum. Hopefully you will adjust your attitude to those of us freely giving of our time to help other users.
Steve
SlikLizrd
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April 15th, 2008 22:00
I thank you, sir, for taking the time to give a clear and informative explanation. It's much appreciated !!
Your response brings forth 2 other questions:
If the 802.11N's additional speed is of no use for Cable, just what sort of internet connection IS it good for !??
And what type of ISP provides the least amount of bottleneck in the overall data transfer stream !??
As for my "attitude" I believe, if you check, you'll find that I've been quite courteous to all those with whom I've exchanged questions and comments here at the DELL forums, and have graciously thanked all those who have been of assistance.
And I thank YOU,sir,as well !!
Peace.
Slik
Trafficflow
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April 15th, 2008 22:00
Good explanation about connection speeds with the isp provider.Will having different speed adapters on a home network affect loss of connection between wireless adaters?I just purchased a 108 for my third wireless computer. I am having dropped connections on my wireless network.Checked my ip address's and no problem there. Need Help!!!
Thanks
Davet50
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April 15th, 2008 23:00
All the wirless stuff is good for is upping the transfer rate of information between clients. You can never use wireless to increase the speed that You ISP provides. That is fixed by your ISP and your contract with them.. I run a 6mbps.from the ISP but my computer can talk to each other at 54mbps..with my "G" equipment..
msgale
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April 16th, 2008 00:00
The speed through a network is limited by the slowest common path between the two points!
Example:
Speed Router to Internet 3 Mbits/ second
Speed PC1 to router 100 Mbits/second
Speed PC2 to router 100 Mbits/second
Speed Notebook to router 270 Mbits/second
These are the only connections, using a 802.11n router with switched ports of 10/100 Mbits/second, NICs on PC1 and PC 2 are rated 10/100/1000 Mbits/second. Wireless N card on Notebook 802.11n
Therefore:
Speed PC1 amoungst PC2 and notebook 100 Mbits/second
Speec PC1, PC1 or Notebook to Internet 3 Mbits/second