Wireless Network unavailable (sometimes!) after stand by

sseres,

I had a similar problem made somewhat better by locking ALL settings to 802.111b specs.

Settings:

Antenna diversity disabled

disable bluetooth,

 BSS mode: 802.11b only

 IBSS mode 802.111b only

 Power save mode disabled

Rate 11

Also, for some weird reason, I was told to set the card to its default Channel, which is 11. This did help. It now connects shortly after power on, not instantly, like my Linksys WPC11 PCMCIA card card does in my Toshiba notebook, but MUCH better than before. The range, however is another story. I guess that's the deal with internal cards, they work well for about 3 feet, then they cr*p out!

I hope you get some satisfaction, it took me a while but I am better off than before.

Let me know how you make out,

Regards,

Morey G

I5150 ; True Mobile(?) 1300; Linksys WAP11; WSB24; BEFSR41; Dimension 4100, 4300, 4500, Axim X5, Toshiba SatPro 6000 all networked and working well....except for the 1300 card!

 

Thanks for the reply.  You set the card to channel 11, but did you actually have the router on a different channel?  If so, which one?

 

 

Hi

Its always better to have the router and the card on the same channel.

And the Tm1300 cards works well on channel 11.

 

Yes, as compspecialist posted, the router and my other wireless shares were changed to 11 to accommodate the Dell card. I'm not crazy about it, but it did work.

Regards,

Morey

All:

So, what do the different channels mean?  Are they analagous to different channels on a cordless phone that is assigned to a particular frequency?  Why should one work better than another, espcially if there aren't really any things that are 2.4gigahertz in the house now (our microwave doesn't ever get used)?

Sorry to be dumb,

Steve

Different channels are for congested areas - think of appartment complexes or businesses who want different subnets.  No channel is right; no channel is wrong.  One would be better than the other because of 2.4 ghz phone interference, close proximity wireless routers on your channel, etc.  Use whatever one works for you - interference can even come from neon lights with faulty or marginal transformers.

Thanks for the answer.  So, if the only thing that the channel changing is supposed to do is prevent interferrence with something, what good is changing channels if there isn't any interference?  Why does Dell say that the TM1300 has a "default" channel?  Why should this make any difference at all?

To me, it seems that this random unavailable network problem after standby couldn't be related to the channel... especially since an external TM1150 I have never, ever, ever, ever, never, not-even-once acts up like this...

Message Edited by sseres on 09-28-2003 03:29 PM

The default channel is 6 and that is an industry standard.  Right about the 1150 not acting like that - it is a 1300 driver problem.  Check out the 1180/1300 driver update post at the top of this forum posted this evening by Gen-An.

Users:

The reason that network  cards do not work after standby is that Windows 2000 and Windows XP do not do a full hardware re-discovery when they come out of standby or suspend mode.  The only way to force this on the computer is to hard reset the machine.

Bob:

With utmost respect, I must completely disagree with you. I am not a computer professional, but I know what I know, and what you say makes no sense.

If what you say about WinXP did make sense, then the problem that I am describing here should be the case for every wireless peripheral, such as the TM1150.  However, as I stated above, this is a problem limited to the TM1300.  Never not even one single time at any point EVER did I have this problem with the 1150.

So, now how can it be?

sseres,

I was not expecting a response from you so quickly.  I would imagine that this does not always happen because sometimes the operating system does not complete the full hardware-redetect cycle -- sometimes the cycle includes the nic whereas other times it does not.  I am unaware of whether this issue is present with other network cards.

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@sseres wrote:

Am I nuts here?

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Boy, are you asking the wrong crowd!!         

I don't want to argue about it.  But my point is, why isn't this this case of other wireless NICs you sell?

Besides, did you read the links you listed?  In each case, MS says the workaround is either reboot your computer or don't use stand-by or hibrinate mode.  Why is that an acceptable alternative?

Am I nuts here?

Message Edited by sseres on 09-30-2003 01:15 PM

sseres,

I found the following Microsoft article that backs up my position:

• Network Connection Lost After Resuming from Hibernate.

The follow may back up the claim:

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• ISA Network Adapter Does Not Work After Suspend and Resume
• PRB: Network Connectivity Is Lost on an IBM Thinkpad 600X Laptop After a Suspend/Resume Operation.
• NetWare Drive Mappings Lost After Resuming from Suspended Mode.
• Sockets Programs May Not Work After Suspend and Resume.
• Entering Standby Mode While Connected to the Internet Causes the Computer to Disconnect.

Well, what the heck am I supposed to think?

On one hand, I read about many Dell users who complain bitterly about their TM1300 not working well.

Then, Dell's response (or at least Bob's response) is to give replies that don't seem to grasp the question I'm asking...

Ergo the question... Am I nuts?  Am I asking something that is unanswerable?  Am I having an experience that is totally different than the rest of the Dell world?

I think the question, "Am I nuts?" really sums up what I'm feeling.