You should stick with Optiplex models Like GX620 to 760 that have this. No vendor is going to 'Guarantee" timing on legacy ports. The 760 is one of the last units that can support XP and has these Legacy ports Built in.
All of these models can support MSDOS all the way thru windows 10 although 10 is not supported. When you cannot find drivers for 10 you use Vista/WIN7 drivers and they work fine. These will not go bad sitting in a cool dry place. I stockpile them for clients that need DOS or XP etc for VERY OLD systems that use RS232 Serial or IEE 1284 Parallel ports.
Tower model is recommended because otherwise power supply is proprietary.
The problem with these is that we run W7 as standard at the moment, and soon will have to go up to W10. In addition, updates of the software we use mean that the PC/processors are beginning to get too slow to cope. The programs we use run on top of windows, so not in MS-DOS, but run on a PC where processes that cause timing error are disabled.
As a short term solution we could try to add in more RAM (although most are maxed now) and graphics cards. However, a long-term solution with new PC and Parallel port compatability would be best if at all possible.
It sounds like perhaps this isnt the case?
I might go back to the manufacturer of the device we interface with and see what they suggest.
I might go back to the manufacturer of the device we interface with and see what they suggest.
Yes, I would definitely do that.
If you are not able to upgrade the "Recording Devices" to use a more modern (non Legacy) interface , then maybe they can recommend a (vetted/tested) PCIe Addin Card with a Parallel Port.
Optiplex GX760 Mini Tower with Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q9650 with 8 Gigs of ram and Zotac Geforce 1050TI MINI video card works fine with windows XP/VISTA/7/8/10. The new video card is not wasted because its PCI-E and will work in newer systems later. Ram and CPU usually cannot be carried forward regardless.
Not sure what you mean by getting slow because parallel port timing is less likely to work on newer systems. When you add a modern GPU this old system is better than a newer Core I7 system with INTEL Graphics.
The other issue is that Legacy IRQ and Driver and Bus timing IS NOT SUPPORTED with newer Core processors and chipsets. This is why newer cpus and chipsets are UEFI WINDOWS 10 ONLY.
speedstep
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You should stick with Optiplex models Like GX620 to 760 that have this. No vendor is going to 'Guarantee" timing on legacy ports. The 760 is one of the last units that can support XP and has these Legacy ports Built in.
All of these models can support MSDOS all the way thru windows 10 although 10 is not supported. When you cannot find drivers for 10 you use Vista/WIN7 drivers and they work fine. These will not go bad sitting in a cool dry place. I stockpile them for clients that need DOS or XP etc for VERY OLD systems that use RS232 Serial or IEE 1284 Parallel ports.
Tower model is recommended because otherwise power supply is proprietary.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/803416719
https://www.walmart.com/ip/55099006
http://www.dell.com/downloads/ap/products/optix/optix_760_tech_guide.pdf
http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/enterprise-client/w/wiki/optiplex-760-xp-driver-cab
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Thank you for the tips and help, speedstep,
We already use the Optiplex 760 in our labs.
The problem with these is that we run W7 as standard at the moment, and soon will have to go up to W10. In addition, updates of the software we use mean that the PC/processors are beginning to get too slow to cope. The programs we use run on top of windows, so not in MS-DOS, but run on a PC where processes that cause timing error are disabled.
As a short term solution we could try to add in more RAM (although most are maxed now) and graphics cards. However, a long-term solution with new PC and Parallel port compatability would be best if at all possible.
It sounds like perhaps this isnt the case?
I might go back to the manufacturer of the device we interface with and see what they suggest.
Thanks again for all the help,
Phil
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July 9th, 2018 13:00
Yes, I would definitely do that.
If you are not able to upgrade the "Recording Devices" to use a more modern (non Legacy) interface , then maybe they can recommend a (vetted/tested) PCIe Addin Card with a Parallel Port.
That should work in a modern WinTel computer.
speedstep
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July 10th, 2018 11:00
Optiplex GX760 Mini Tower with Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q9650 with 8 Gigs of ram and Zotac Geforce 1050TI MINI video card works fine with windows XP/VISTA/7/8/10. The new video card is not wasted because its PCI-E and will work in newer systems later. Ram and CPU usually cannot be carried forward regardless.
https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-DisplayPort-128-bit-ZT-P10510A-10L/dp/B01MCU1ERO/
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/optiplex-760-series-%28desktop%2C-mini-tower-and-small-form-factor%29/CT915213
Not sure what you mean by getting slow because parallel port timing is less likely to work on newer systems. When you add a modern GPU this old system is better than a newer Core I7 system with INTEL Graphics.
https://www.amazon.com/Q9650-Processor-3-00Ghz-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07DLHBXJC/
The other issue is that Legacy IRQ and Driver and Bus timing IS NOT SUPPORTED with newer Core processors and chipsets. This is why newer cpus and chipsets are UEFI WINDOWS 10 ONLY.