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February 23rd, 2020 00:00

How to change Legacy Bios to UEFI bios

I have a (old 2013) Dell Optiplex 7010
I tried to get the UEFI BIOS appear. HDDs seems to be a GPT (120GB SSD + 500GB HDD).
Old bios version A12.

in bios I've tried:
Boot sequence -->   UEFI
Advanced Boot Option --> [off] Enable Legasy Option Roms
Integrated NIC --> Enable w / PXE is [on] , but there is no Enable UEFI Network Stack option.
Secure Boot ---> Enabled

I do not get UEFI bios view I have been looking for a solution as 10 hours


is it due to the lack of --Enable UEFI Network Stack-- and is it due to the old A12 bios

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February 23rd, 2020 04:00

BIOS version A21 addresses that problem. Keep in mind that you have version A12 and the newest is A29 so the first step is to update to the newest version then see if the problem persists. BIOS downloads can be seen here and you can look at the older versions for the problems that they fix.

EDIT: I was just a bit too slow posting this...and we have all made assumptions dealing with our systems. Not stupid...remember experience is learned mostly from our mistakes not successes.

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February 23rd, 2020 04:00

sorry abaut wrong info,  it seems that drives are mbr. i tought that when change GPT is dimmed drives are GPT.

but when checking properties-> volumes it says MBR.

i feel so stupid

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February 23rd, 2020 06:00

so true Jocean.

OP use  F12 BIOS UPGRADE only. be safe, do not brick the PC now.. do not.

 

OP this is not about stupid, at all  , one can not just guess how any hDD is formatted. buy guessing, later.

not easy that. unless it is LEGACY MBR.

best is learn that before the PC is failing, using DISK manager in windows 10 look what you have and write it down.

 

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February 23rd, 2020 13:00

7010 is from 2011 not 2013.

There is NEVER an option for CLASS 2.3.1 windows 8 UEFI bios.

Larger than 2tb requires GPT partition.

it wont see anything without the INTEL RST MASS STORAGE DRIVER INSTALLED and DISKPART PARTITION and format clean.

Advanced format drives require F6 drivers.

You cannot POINT to an EXE or ZIP file it must be extracted and on a USB2 FAT32 FLASH DRIVE.

https://www.7-zip.org/download.html

The other ISSUE is that new versions of RST driver DO NOT SUPPORT old chipsets.  This means that 11.7 may be the last version supported for your chipset.  The current 2020 version does not apply to ancient chipsets.

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/29350/Intel-Rapid-Storage-Technology-Intel-RST-Floppy-Driver-Package?product=55005

 

11.7.0.1013

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/22194/Intel-Rapid-Storage-Technology-Intel-RST-User-Interface-and-Driver?product=55005

 

The other issue is that win10 1809 1903 1909 no longer fit on FAT32 but FAT32 is required for GPT UEFI booting.

EXFAT and NTFS are not supported.

https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/sln313422/windows-10-iso-contains-wim-file-that-is-big-for-fat32-file-system?lang=en

BIOS Mode Supports GPT Partitioning Supports MBR Partitioning Supports Secure Boot Boot USB:FAT32 Boot from USB:NTFS
Legacy No Class 3 systems no longer support MBR or legacy booting No 32 BIT or 1803 or earlier BIOS Dependant; 3rd party installer like Rufus REQUIRED for bootloader OR oem sYSTEM BUILDER DUAL LAYER 8.4 GIG DVD REQUIRED
UEFI Yes must be less than 2tb BIOS Dependant 32 BIT or 1803 or earlier

 

BIOS Mode Can Boot from Disk > 2TB Second disk can be > 2TB
Legacy Yes, but only first 2TB accessible due to MBR limits  SEGATE has disk wizard. Yes, as second disk can be GPT but not booted from
UEFI CLASS 2.3.1 or Higher
Yes, as UEFI can boot GPT disks. Yes

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2581408/windows-support-for-hard-disks-that-are-larger-than-2-tb

 

For seagate drives they provide a utility

Use DiscWizard Extended Capacity Manager Software

 

Western digital was handling this with a HOST BUS adapter

Western Digital is shipping a Highpoint Rocket 620 with each 2.5 and 3TB Caviar Green

https://www.amazon.com/High-Point-Bananas-Leather-9042351/dp/B002VEWBGO

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0p06nmeC3A

 

 

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July 17th, 2020 13:00

upgrade to A28 bios.

turn on UEFI, turn off legacy, turn ON legacy bios support

and do a fresh installation.

This is what I have done and it WORK.

* DO NOT use front panel USB for OS installation *

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July 17th, 2020 15:00

6 Professor

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July 17th, 2020 20:00

Hi @tigerwife,

You say not to use front USB ports for OS installation.  Since USB 3.0 ports won't work for that, did you try the front USB 2.0 ports?  I've heard of USB 3.0 not working for that, but not the front USB ports all together.

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July 18th, 2020 04:00

@bradthetechnut 

Hi,  I failed few times by using front USB port installation....

and then I changed to use back USB port, no more error during installation.

I am not sure those are USB2.0 or USB3.0

Now all good and I installed 32GB kingston DDR3 1600

Performance is close to my 7700k system.... I have spend less than USD430 for all.............

7010 DT + 3770CPU + 32G DDR3 + GTX1650 (brand new)

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6 Professor

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July 19th, 2020 13:00

The ports that say "SS" (super speed) are USB 3.0.  There's 2 in the front and 2 in the back (bottom).  Not sure why my photo appears sideways in the forum.

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By the way @tigerwife, I believed you when it comes to having a GTX 1650 in a 7010 on stock PSU.  There's quite a few YouTube videos showing 75w cards working on 240w-290w PSU's.  There's also a video of a 100w GTX 1650 SUPER being installed in an Optiplex with stock PSU.  Guess what, it didn't work.

6 Professor

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July 19th, 2020 13:00

My 7010 MT is stamped "2014" all over the place.  They weren't just made 1 year.

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July 19th, 2020 14:00

I've used MBR2GPT to convert some Win10 drives to GPT and enable UEFI with very good results.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/mbr-to-gpt

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-convert-mbr-disk-gpt-move-bios-uefi-windows-10

 

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July 19th, 2020 17:00

@bradthetechnut 

my 7010 is DT, it come with 250W PSU

I have tested it with furmark stress test 20 minutes without problem, so I believe it should be fine.

I am using MSI GTX1650 Low Profile

p.s.  I do not suggest install it on SFF case.... as I believe heat issue is more than PSU issue on SFF case.

 

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March 1st, 2023 05:00

I know this is an old thread (and never resolved?) but with the rollout of Windows 11 I was looking to switch my Legacy bios to UEFI (Yes- I finally see that the 7010 can *not* run W11 but regardless-) and when I click the option in my A29 setup, it comes back saying file not found or something like that, and a reboot errors with no operating system found.

Even though I can't upgrade to Win 11, I still thought I'd like to switch to UEFI (for better security?). Any ideas what file this is referring to and how to find/create/install it?

6 Professor

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March 1st, 2023 13:00

If your boot drive was loaded with BIOS Legacy mode, switching to UEFI will cause boot problems.  BIOS has to be in the same modes boot drive was loaded in.  To use UEFI, you'll likely have to reload OS.  Do it with BIOS in AHCI mode also.  Legacy stuff off.

Images show where to find things in BIOS.  They were downloaded, so note other modes were selected other than described.

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Remember, Enable Legacy Option ROMs off.

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