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April 22nd, 2020 03:00

Problems adding RAM to Optiplex 990 Bios Revision A23

Hello,

I have a good and working Optiplex 990 with 16GB RAM.

The Ram sticks consists of 2X4GB and 2X8GB.

I bought 2 new 8GB RAM sticks from Kingston and added to the PC - Kingston ValueRAM 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz CL11.

In the first startup the bios alerts on Memory change, so I enter the Bios to verify that all 32GB ram are recognized by the Bios and all 32 GB ram is present.

Then I exit the Bios, the PC reboots and I see another alert that the RAM was changed. I enter the second time to the Bios and I see that only 16GB is recognized.

I removed the old RAM to check the new RAM and they all work and recognized by BIOS and Windows. I removed the new RAM and installed the old RAM and all is OK.

I re added only 3 x 8GB ram (2 old RAM sticks and 1 new RAM stick) and all 24GB is recognized by BIOS and Windows.

I tried with Bios Revision A23 and Bios Revision A24, both did not work.

Your help is much appreciated.

Best regards,

Michael

 

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April 22nd, 2020 03:00

Two common issues we see with memory on this forum.  (1) mixing brands/types of memory usually results in problems - only have one brand/type (2) The Kingston Value RAM is the most problematic memory type we see on here.  Most of the users that report problems with the KVR RAM never resolve their problems.  If the KVR works consider yourself lucky.

 

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April 22nd, 2020 05:00

so the issue is 32GB is not registered by bios and Windows on restart, but 24GB is. correct?  Users have often found out they can exceed Dell spec limit of max 4 GB per slot. Are you putting the 32 GB in dual channel, i.e., matched ram in slot 1/3 and 2/4?  when in dual channel, it should look like ABAB for the DIMM slots 1-4, AA and BB being matched ram sticks.  What is speed of old and new ram respectively?

May 11th, 2020 01:00

Thank you for your response.

Can you recommend a memory brand or attach a link of a RAM model that should be ok?

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May 11th, 2020 19:00

Optiplex 990 Tech Guide 

From the Tech Guide:  NOTE: Memory modules should be installed in pairs of matched memory size, speed, and technology. If the memory modules are not installed in matched pairs, the computer will continue to operate, but with a slight reduction in performance. The entire 16GB memory range is available to 64-bit operating systems.

So 16GB is the listed max, but I did find a couple of 32GB references.  Screengrabs will be below.

Something fireberd has mentioned in other posts is it's not just some Dell's that don't take mixed brand RAM.  His home built Asus won't take it either, but will take either brand.  Kind of like what you tested already.

Yet, we might hear from donm4599x.  He was able to mix his RAM in his 790 MT.  But may be certain brands don't work together?

Crucial RAM often comes recommended by a couple of our Rockstars, including fireberd.  It has a lifetime warranty and is guaranteed to work in Dell's.  If you want to save a little $ on an older machine, A-Tech RAM also has a lifetime warranty.  I used it in my previous 755.

While I've seen KVR RAM problems myself in this forum, I did find that KVR worked (for a total 32 GB) in the same thread I screengrabbed from.  It appears user may have used Kingston HyperX and KVR in the same machine.

Well @Michaelgin, options were presented.  Up to you what you want to try.  I think redxps630's options are worth a try before returning any RAM.

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May 11th, 2020 19:00

@Michaelgin 

The only thing I would add to all the good advice you already received is this:

Use a program like memtest86 or memtest86+, booted from a usb flash drive, and test your memory modules, both new and old, in whatever configurations it will work in. Be sure to get around to testing each of the modules at least one or two passes.

It's possible that one or more addresses on one of the sticks are flaky, maybe even occurring randomly.

Some folks don't believe in testing memory. But over the years, it's helped me find several bad memory modules that were difficult to pinpoint.

It can also help give you the evidence you need to warranty or return a bad module, especially if the seller doesn't believe you.

 

 

 

 

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May 11th, 2020 20:00

Hi @donm4599x,

As @Michaelgin tested, old RAM and new RAM work by themselves.  Would memtest86 still help?

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May 11th, 2020 20:00

Testing very well may not help. But there is a chance it might provide a clue, and it costs nothing, so if it were me, I would test before giving up.

 

 

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