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June 22nd, 2010 07:00

PE 1600SC upgrading

I just received a near new (10hrs use) 1600SC for free yesterday with a widescreen 17" LCD... so wee for me.

Anyways.. I got the BIOS updated to A12.

Specs is a single 2.8ghz , 80gb scsi, 1gb mem (single stick)

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What is the recommend memory for these guys? Are they picky about the ECC ram or pretty much any make out there be fine?

Also what is the best CPU's to drop into this for the dual CPU config?

I didn't look much into it last night.. just opened it up, peaked around and closed it up before I booted it.  Had Linux installed which has to go.

Has anyone had luck with dropping in SATA cards? Ill keep the 80gb as boot drive, and like to stuff a few SATA drives in there. Do they need drive mounting rail kits or anything?

Kinda shopping around today to start ordering parts to beef it up to the "max" ... this will be used primarily for developing windows applications and doing large database crunching on.

 

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June 22nd, 2010 08:00

It will be picky about the memory ... this is what you need:

72-bit, Registered ECC, DDR 266, SDRAM (system will support max of 4GB - up to 1GB per slot)

As for the processor, you need to match the processor exactly if you are going to upgrade to a second processor.  Based on the Service Tag you provided, the processor it shipped with is part number Y0274 (Intel's 80532K chip).  You should be safe purchasing the exact same model number. 

http://www.impactcomputers.com/y0274.html

As for the drives ... it looks like yours shipped with the "cabled" SCSI drive option, not the hot-swappable SCSI backplane, so you should be able to simply put SATA drives in - IF you have power connectors for SATA devices and connect them to a SATA controller, as I don't believe there are any onboard SATA connectors.

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June 22nd, 2010 09:00

Actually would like to do the SL7AE if possible? Since its 2MB cache vs 1MB of the SL72Y.

 

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June 22nd, 2010 09:00

I would like to replace the 2.8 which seems to be doable with the 3.2ghz since this a 533mhz setup.

Looks to be the SL72Y is the CPU needed for going dual 3.2's ?   If im gonna dump a few bucks into this, i want the fastest cpu that can be put in.

No onboard sata or anything. I have PCI controller cards for this laying around in storage.

Scsi will be boot drive, SATA for storage.

 

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June 22nd, 2010 20:00

Got  XP Loaded up pretty easily and seems to run pretty well so far.

So anyone know if the SL7AE cpu is ok to buy 2 of and drop in?

 

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June 24th, 2010 14:00

Found where people use the 3.2ghz 1mb cache cpu's, but no where yet on finding if anyone has used dual 3.2ghz with 2mb cache (SL7AE)

Looking to put a video card in, as the 8mb is brutal... just trying to navigate XP with all themes junk removed is choppy.

Has anyone been lucky with current produced cards? Ive found a few that are a few years old that have tested good, but wondering if any newer made  (last year or so) that would be acceptable, since it seems this setup is picky.

 

 

 

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July 23rd, 2010 06:00

Got two SL7AE (3.2ghz 2mb cache) CPU's and put them in, and it fired right up detecting both of them.

 

 

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August 3rd, 2010 08:00

Congrats on the dual cpu.

IF you haven't expanded memory yet, they take max 1gb sticks in each slot for a total of 4m. Server 2003 will see all 4 meg. xp will probably only see about 3.2

They are suppose to use pc2100, but I've had some problems with that speed. certain cpu push that memory just a bit. I use pc2700 which works fine.

You box apparently does not have the hot swap drive cage, but the cabled cage. You can mount up to 6 drives with screws in there. You can "talk" to two parallel ide drives with the internal interface. I've use a Highpoint rocketraid 2220 controller to talk to Sata drives. It supports 8 drives and is PCI-x interface, which is what you want to use.

The internal 68pin scsi interface will support 68pin cabled scsi drives, but not in RAID.

The typical Raid setup shipped with a Perc 4/sc card, a hot swap drive cage, a hot swap drive backplane. This accepted a 80pin hot swap parallel scsi drive(s). You can upgrade boxes, by pulling the cable drive cage and installing the above. Parallel scsi is still a bit expensive, but very robust. I've got those setups running literally for many years.

There is also a dual redundant power supply option available. You can also pick up the upgrade kits on ebay.

I've built and rebuilt this particular box, many times. I have about 5 of them, in several different configuratons, so email me if you have questions.

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August 3rd, 2010 14:00

Ya priced out some ram that ill be getting soon.. XP is what I use right now which I know wont take advantage of the 4gb but right now its just an OS to run for now to make sure everything works. 

I picked up an Audigy2 and Powercolor 2400HD cards off ebay and installed them last night, and worked like a charm.

I have a cheapy SATA raid card installed, but not using the raid feature.. just a 300/500/160/160 drives installed right now, along with the original scsi drive. Ill be replacing all the sata drives most likely here soon with 1TB drives.

So far the system is pretty packed with hardware now, and running great. The video card made a world of difference using it.

I will probably be dumping the scsi drive, as it just seems loud and not as fast as the sata drives.. dunno if its due to the age of the drive or what.

Sad that it can only see up to 4gb, since having 64bit capable cpu's, would have been nice to have around 8gb or so... only gaining ~800 or so of mem by going 32 to 64 bit ..

 

November 21st, 2010 14:00

It will be picky about the memory ... this is what you need:

72-bit, Registered ECC, DDR 266, SDRAM (system will support max of 4GB - up to 1GB per slot)

As for the processor, you need to match the processor exactly if you are going to upgrade to a second processor. Based on the Service Tag you provided, the processor it shipped with is part number Y0274 (Intel's 80532K chip). You should be safe purchasing the exact same model number.

http://www.impactcomputers.com/y0274.html

As for the drives ... it looks like yours shipped with the "cabled" SCSI drive option, not the hot-swappable SCSI backplane, so you should be able to simply put SATA drives in - IF you have power connectors for SATA devices and connect them to a SATA controller, as I don't believe there are any onboard SATA connectors.


It's very valuable, Thanks for your analysis! This is what I'm looking for.

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January 2nd, 2011 20:00

Well been running the system for a few months with no issues... went almost 3 months before I had to shut it down for new upgrades.

I found I can't read, and the SL7AE don't do x64 so that would probably be the reason only 4gb max of mem.. doh

Ran XP up until recently, and switched over to Vista Ultimate for a while. Had a copy that wasn't in use anymore from my old machine this replaced.

I ditched the scsi this time, as the drive was loud and slow. With the SATA card I am using, i stripped two 150gb SATA drives for now and loaded Vista onto that.
Added 1gb more mem for a whole 2gb total. Another 2 will go in soon to fill it out.

With Vista Ultimate set on max graphical settings with the ATI 2400 HD card, it runs very well. No slow downs and with the new SATA setup read/write access is tons better. This running to a 42" 1080p TV and looks great.

Added an older PCI TV Tuner card which I haven't fired up yet, but it did install in XP and Vista with "no issues"

Also added a DVDRW Drive so I could install Vista.

Have a USB 2.0 card but it didn't seem to like it. Would lock up after detecting scsi / sata drives.

To bad on the x64 support. Was really wanting to go that route, but can't.

There is still life in the old girl yet.

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