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July 29th, 2009 08:00

Powerpath vs PowerParh /VE

Hi There,

I'm currenlty replacing 2x W2K3 server with 2 x W2K8 Hyper-V servers,
can someone explain me what is the difference between Powerpath and Powerpath /VE ?
Do i need to pay new PowerPath license for Hyper-V ?


Thnak you for help,

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July 29th, 2009 11:00

Hi Damo,

PowerPath VE is the version of PowerPath that only runs on the the V-Sphere systems (VMware ESX4.0)

There is no specific version of PowerPath for Hyper-V systems that I am aware of.

Conor

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July 29th, 2009 19:00

That's not actually true.

There is PowerPath/VE 5.4 for VMWare ESX 4.0
and
PowerPath/VE 5.3 for Windows Hyper-V

Please read the release notes available on Powerlink for more info...

PowerPath Version 5.3 for Windows includes support for virtual environments through a new PowerPath/VE for Windows Hyper-V license key. The new key is required to license PowerPath 5.3 in Windows Hyper-V environments. PowerPath/VE for Windows Hyper-V provides the same multipathing functionality as PowerPath for Windows in nonvirtual environments, and it supports Migration
Enabler and PowerPath Encryption with RSA.

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July 30th, 2009 06:00

Mich,

i currently have a customer who is using Hyper-V and PowerPath 5.2 SP1. So what changes with PP 5.3 ? Do i have to use PP/VE for Hyper-V (and buy additional license) or can i continue using regular PowerPath for Windows 2008 ? PP/VE does not get loaded in VMs does it ? What benefits do i get from using PP/VE versus regular PP.

Thank you

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July 30th, 2009 07:00

Sorry I'm not up to speed on the Windows side of things, learn something new every day!


That's not actually true.

There is PowerPath/VE 5.4 for VMWare ESX 4.0
and
PowerPath/VE 5.3 for Windows Hyper-V

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July 30th, 2009 07:00

We all do ;)

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July 30th, 2009 22:00

So what changes with PP 5.3 ?
Officiall qualified support for Hyper-V.

Do i have to use PP/VE for Hyper-V (and buy additional license) or can i continue using regular PowerPath for Windows 2008? Up to you, I don't know of any issues with this version and Hyper-V.


PP/VE does not get loaded in VMs does it ?
No. The only time I see PP in a VM is when using iSCSI and connecting directly across the network to the VM.

What benefits do i get from using PP/VE versus regular PP.
Qualified support. New features with 5.3, see release notes.
New licesing method...

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August 9th, 2010 23:00

If you are running PowerPath in a client OS then you require the ordinary PowerPath License - if you are running PowerPath on the physical then you require a PowerPath / VE license - note this should be applied to PowerPath 5.3 for Windows on the physical.

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August 10th, 2010 05:00

Hi.  There is a limited use case with qualified versions of PowerPath to be used in a VM.  Please refer to page 318 of the attached link to the PowerPath ESM tables.

https://elabnavigator.emc.com/emcpubs/elab/esm/pdf/EMC_PowerPath.pdf

For vSphere, there is only PowerPath/VE.

For Windows, there is PowerPath and PowerPath/VE.  PowerPath/VE is installed only on the hypervisor when Hyper-V is enabled on W2K8.  If iSCSI support on the VM with direct mapping is needed with current versions of PowerPath (not VE), please submit an RPQ.

I hope this helps.  If not, please let me know.

Thanks, Brion

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February 6th, 2012 14:00

Hi all , thats mean that PP/VE is the only supported version for Hyper-V hosts ? The normal one is not qualified ?

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February 7th, 2012 10:00

Hi.  For licensing purposes, PowerPath/VE for Hyper-V must be installed on a W2K8 server when the Hyper-V role is enabled.  If Hyper-V is not enabled, you may install PowerPath for Windows.  I hope this helps.

Thanks, Brion

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February 7th, 2012 23:00

Thnx Brion, so the normal PP is not supported on Hyper V ?

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February 8th, 2012 07:00

Correct.

PowerPath for Windows on W2K8

PowerPath/VE for Hyper-V on W2K8 with Hyper-V role enabled

This is not a technical issue.  It is all about license compliance.

March 14th, 2013 04:00

Hi Ricardo,

If you run Powerpath on the Hyper-V Server the physical host:

- install normal Powerpath

- install the Powerpath/VE License key

If you run Powerpath on the Hyper-V Virtual Machine (guest OS):

- install normal Powerpath

- install normal License key

There is no seperate installer, there is ONLY a difference in Licensing

HTH,

Edwin.

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