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The automated Bot response is really annoying, poorly done, and reflects strongly on Dell in a negative way. But apparently no one at Dell cares about this. Ignore the Bot (even if you send in a valid Service Tag, it ignores it and keeps sending you messages) and delete all the Dell mail is my advice.
Regarding AMT, read this Dell release. I'm assuming you are asking to be sure that the T7910 does NOT run AMT (if you are thinking you WANT to run AMT google "Silent Bob is Silent" and Intel's security advisory INTEL-SA-00075 - and think really hard about this). Dell claims that only T20 and T30 Enterprise products have AMT but I would not trust this. I mean, look at how good their bot programming is...
If you are running Windows, you can run the AMT detection and mitigation program here.
My dual boot version of Windows is knackered right now so I can't test my T7910. If you run the program (or anyone else has run it) perhaps they can share the results. But again, I'm not sure that the Intel program really will tell the truth about AMT. We Intel chip users may just have to accept that they have a serious security hole that is not fixable. Or... switch to AMD EPYC chips.
;tldr Dell claims that AMT is not implemented in firmware except for T20 and T30.
Thanks for the response. I'd spotted the advisory and the detection utility although I actually want it to be enabled since I'll be installing ESXi and using it as a server.
'Lights out'/BMC type controller functionality is really handy to manage a server, even if the server is under your desk. It's just convenient.
The Github link I posted suggests that it is going to work on this model although I can't be sure that the person who posted didn't go to the trouble of flashing the board themselves to get it working - people do go to these lengths.
Either way, I have discovered a really really cool Raspberry Pi based alternative to 'lights out' management if AMT isn't an option on the T7910. This is why I decided to go ahead with the purchase anyway, there is a plan B if AMT doesn't work.
This could be a fun project if I need it. For anyone who finds themselves here who's interested, there's an awesome review of two Pi based KVM products here:
Wow, sounds like you have some really good skills. But I will mildly tease you about suggesting that people who are "flashing the board" are going to extreme lengths when you yourself are proposing a dedicated, programmed hardware solution! LOL, but I'm laughing with you, not at you (I'm an engineer - your solution might be something I'd try). Good luck with your problem: I think that the Raspberry pi solution sounds cool (I used to implement programmable logic controllers indusltrically, so I guess I'm predisposed to liking stuff like this).
I like the idea of tinkering with the flash although this is above my skill level and I suspect pretty risky. Also, I don't know if what I've read elsewhere about people flashing certain chips relating to Intel ME/AMT is relevant here, on the T7910.
If AMT works in the T7910, great. If not, I'll be pressing the power button, using a USB stick, monitor, mouse and keyboard until my cool Raspberry Pi KVM arrives :O)
I really need a server, not a workstation, although this model packs so much compute into a small quiet package, at a decent price. That's why I chose it over Dell and HP tower servers. It should be perfect for it's intended purpose, a VMware home lab.
I have exactly the same question Does the mainboard of the T7910 support Intel ME or AMT?
i not can find any clear answer to this question anywhere
to be clear
i NOT have a servicetag for this type of machine because i PLAN buy one refurbished the possibility of basic OOB management without expensive addon cards is essential for my decision to buy this machine.
i successfully reactvated this even on "ME state3" machines the Intel ME/AMT features like remotestart an KVM are fully suitable to my needs
one statement above ist totally wrong "only T20 and T30 Enterprise products have AMT"
this is nonsense many ....even Optiplex Products have this IntelME feature. mostly it is disabled as an option during the sales & factoring process
but for example an Optiplex 5050 SFF woks 100% with this feature.
in the end.... YESSSS i know about the security issues ...IF you have an older version of the ME Firmware. BUT first you can update-flash this to an secure level second you can limit this to your local network
and last but not least... i am fully aware of the issues of this feature and i am using this in my private hobby & lab networking...
so please no "reminders" refering to the dangers of this feature.....
yes t7910 supports AMT, this guy is ill-informed. It may not support KVM due to it's lack of iGPU on it's xeon processor, but depending on what is configured when the machine is built, it can have multiple piece of AMT enabled. Such as SoL which is essentially a KVM if you were running server core or a linux server ;) Also media redirection, boot control, modify bios settings (from a text console, not the normal T7910 UEFI GUI)
I have an ESXI server running on a t7910 with a hole chopped in the top to allow for the two closed loop liquid coolers to fit in it.
Manufacturer
Dell Inc.
Model
Precision Tower 7910
CPU
16 CPUs x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 v3 @ 2.40GHz
Memory
127.93 GB
Virtual flash
34.18 GB used, 119.75 GB capacity
It's definitely nothing special, but yes, it supports AMT. This would have to be enabled at build time however. I have not heard of being able to enable this when its disabled at the factory.
The raspberry PI KVM with a HDMI-IN adapter is definitely a better bet tho. You would get way more functionality and security out of that vs. some old ME chipset.
One or two Intel® Xeon® processor E5-2600 v4 Series with up to 22 cores and Intel Advanced Vector Extensions, Intel Trusted Execution Technology, Intel AES New instructions, Optimized Intel Turbo Boost and optional Intel vPro™ technology
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We need a service tag to ask a community question? A little confused by the bot response. Come on coders, you can do better than that!
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The automated Bot response is really annoying, poorly done, and reflects strongly on Dell in a negative way. But apparently no one at Dell cares about this. Ignore the Bot (even if you send in a valid Service Tag, it ignores it and keeps sending you messages) and delete all the Dell mail is my advice.
Regarding AMT, read this Dell release. I'm assuming you are asking to be sure that the T7910 does NOT run AMT (if you are thinking you WANT to run AMT google "Silent Bob is Silent" and Intel's security advisory INTEL-SA-00075 - and think really hard about this). Dell claims that only T20 and T30 Enterprise products have AMT but I would not trust this. I mean, look at how good their bot programming is...
If you are running Windows, you can run the AMT detection and mitigation program here.
My dual boot version of Windows is knackered right now so I can't test my T7910. If you run the program (or anyone else has run it) perhaps they can share the results. But again, I'm not sure that the Intel program really will tell the truth about AMT. We Intel chip users may just have to accept that they have a serious security hole that is not fixable. Or... switch to AMD EPYC chips.
;tldr Dell claims that AMT is not implemented in firmware except for T20 and T30.
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Thanks for the response. I'd spotted the advisory and the detection utility although I actually want it to be enabled since I'll be installing ESXi and using it as a server.
'Lights out'/BMC type controller functionality is really handy to manage a server, even if the server is under your desk. It's just convenient.
The Github link I posted suggests that it is going to work on this model although I can't be sure that the person who posted didn't go to the trouble of flashing the board themselves to get it working - people do go to these lengths.
Either way, I have discovered a really really cool Raspberry Pi based alternative to 'lights out' management if AMT isn't an option on the T7910. This is why I decided to go ahead with the purchase anyway, there is a plan B if AMT doesn't work.
This could be a fun project if I need it. For anyone who finds themselves here who's interested, there's an awesome review of two Pi based KVM products here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIrkEr2AeDY
I'll update the post when I received my T7910 and know whether AMT works.
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October 10th, 2021 10:00
Wow, sounds like you have some really good skills. But I will mildly tease you about suggesting that people who are "flashing the board" are going to extreme lengths when you yourself are proposing a dedicated, programmed hardware solution! LOL, but I'm laughing with you, not at you (I'm an engineer - your solution might be something I'd try). Good luck with your problem: I think that the Raspberry pi solution sounds cool (I used to implement programmable logic controllers indusltrically, so I guess I'm predisposed to liking stuff like this).
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October 10th, 2021 12:00
I like the idea of tinkering with the flash although this is above my skill level and I suspect pretty risky. Also, I don't know if what I've read elsewhere about people flashing certain chips relating to Intel ME/AMT is relevant here, on the T7910.
If AMT works in the T7910, great. If not, I'll be pressing the power button, using a USB stick, monitor, mouse and keyboard until my cool Raspberry Pi KVM arrives :O)
I really need a server, not a workstation, although this model packs so much compute into a small quiet package, at a decent price. That's why I chose it over Dell and HP tower servers. It should be perfect for it's intended purpose, a VMware home lab.
Thanks again for the feedback.
Michael Mebert
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May 16th, 2022 07:00
Hello together
could this question be cleared in the end?
I have exactly the same question
Does the mainboard of the T7910 support Intel ME or AMT?
i not can find any clear answer to this question anywhere
to be clear
i NOT have a servicetag for this type of machine because i PLAN buy one refurbished
the possibility of basic OOB management without expensive addon cards is essential for my decision to buy this machine.
i successfully reactvated this even on "ME state3" machines
the Intel ME/AMT features like remotestart an KVM are fully suitable to my needs
one statement above ist totally wrong
"only T20 and T30 Enterprise products have AMT"
this is nonsense
many ....even Optiplex Products have this IntelME feature.
mostly it is disabled as an option during the sales & factoring process
but for example
an Optiplex 5050 SFF woks 100% with this feature.
in the end....
YESSSS i know about the security issues ...IF you have an older version of the ME Firmware.
BUT
first you can update-flash this to an secure level
second you can limit this to your local network
and last but not least...
i am fully aware of the issues of this feature and i am using this in my private hobby & lab networking...
so please no "reminders" refering to the dangers of this feature.....
amrak44
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December 4th, 2024 02:02
yes t7910 supports AMT, this guy is ill-informed. It may not support KVM due to it's lack of iGPU on it's xeon processor, but depending on what is configured when the machine is built, it can have multiple piece of AMT enabled. Such as SoL which is essentially a KVM if you were running server core or a linux server ;) Also media redirection, boot control, modify bios settings (from a text console, not the normal T7910 UEFI GUI)
I have an ESXI server running on a t7910 with a hole chopped in the top to allow for the two closed loop liquid coolers to fit in it.
It's definitely nothing special, but yes, it supports AMT. This would have to be enabled at build time however. I have not heard of being able to enable this when its disabled at the factory.
The raspberry PI KVM with a HDMI-IN adapter is definitely a better bet tho. You would get way more functionality and security out of that vs. some old ME chipset.
amrak44
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December 4th, 2024 02:07
@amrak44
https://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheets/en/Documents/Dell-Precision-Tower-7000-Series-7910-Spec-Sheet.pdf
One or two Intel® Xeon® processor E5-2600 v4 Series with up to 22 cores and Intel Advanced Vector Extensions, Intel Trusted Execution
Technology, Intel AES New instructions, Optimized Intel Turbo Boost and optional Intel vPro™ technology