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September 12th, 2009 09:00
Java update
I now have Java 6 update 13 on my computer. I have a notice that update 15 is ready to install. I see that Java takes up a lot of drive space. I did some researce on Java and question if I really need it. Maybe it does other tasks that I don't know about and everyone should have Java on their computer.! I don't do anything abnormal on my computer. Do I really need it and should I keep it up todate. Thanks for your comments.
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ejn63
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September 12th, 2009 09:00
It's unlikely you can get by without it - unless you never use the system to surf the Internet. Many, many websites use it - so do many applications.
You CAN remove all the old versions, reboot and install just the new one - Java updater has a way of leaving a mess behind after a while.
joe53
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September 12th, 2009 09:00
Evermore:
Java is an entirely optional program that you can ignore, but I can't imagine surfing without it. Too many sites require it.
If you use it, you should certainly keep it up to date, for security reasons.
Evermore
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September 12th, 2009 10:00
Thanks ejn63 and joe53. That was the answer that I needed. I do surf the internet at times. I just didn't understand what all Java was used for. I will keep it installed and updated.
ky331
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September 12th, 2009 11:00
Evermore,
1) The most current version of Java is JRE 6 update 16 (not 15).
2) To complicate matters, with the advent of 64-bit operating systems, Java now comes in two "flavors": the original/classic 32-bit version, as well as a separate new 64-bit version. If you don't have a 64-bit system, you don't have to be concerned with this.
But for Vista/Win7 people who have a 64-bit operating system, be advised that you will have two versions of IE: a 32-bit version (which is the default) as well as a 64-bit version. If you surf with the 32-bit IE, you will need to have the 32-bit version of Java installed there; while if you surf with the 64-bit IE, you will need to have the 64-bit version of Java installed for it. And if you switch between 32 and 64 bit versions of IE, using one at some time, and the other at other times, you will need to download/install BOTH 32 and 64 bit versions of Java. For more on this, see http://java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
3) Not only "can" you remove older versions of Java (as ejn63 commented), in fact, you SHOULD remove them, by going to your Control Panel, ADD/REMOVE programs, and uninstalling any old versions of Java you find there.
The newer versions of Java 6 are "smarter", in that they automatically look for and remove updates numbered 10 and higher of JRE 6. But earlier updates (1 through 9) of JRE 6... as well as all versions of JRE 5 (and older) must be removed manually.
NOTE: As i was composing this response, I see that BugBatter replied to this thread. I realize that I've duplicated some of her information (or is it vice versa??), but, having taken the time to respond, I will leave this post intact.
Bugbatter
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September 12th, 2009 11:00
Older versions have vulnerabilities that malware can use to infect your system. It is possible that you may be running Java code in your applications that absolutely require a specific version of the JRE to run. Please follow these steps to remove older version Java components and update.
Close Add/Remove.
* In Windows Explorer, navigate to C:\Program Files\Java =this folder. Delete any subfolders.
* Do NOT delete C:\Program Files\ JavaVM =this folder, if found!
Delete the downloaded installation file after completing the above procedure and reboot if not prompted to do so.
Evermore
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September 14th, 2009 07:00
Thanks everyone for the information on Java. I will use your advise to uninstall older version and install the newer version. This forum is always an excellent place to get the information us novice need.
Bugbatter
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September 14th, 2009 15:00
You're most welcome. We're always glad to help. Have a great day. :emotion-1:
control_tps
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September 14th, 2009 22:00
Hello Bugbatter,
ky331
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September 15th, 2009 05:00
Control_tps,
Perhaps BB will reply with a better explanation.
But there's one possible reason that comes to mind: While JRE 6 update 16 contains a "bug fix", it does not contain any "security fixes". Quoting from their release notes:
"This feature release does not contain any new fixes for security vulnerabilities to its previous release, Java SE 6 Update 15. Users who have Java SE 6 Update 15 have the latest security fixes and do not need to upgrade to this release to be current on security fixes."
( see http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/6u16.html )
On that basis, I believe their site is recognizing both updates, 15 and 15, as being "current" --- that is to say, "current enough", from their security perspective.
control_tps
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September 16th, 2009 11:00
Hello ky331,
Alright, thanks. :emotion-2:
control_tps
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September 16th, 2009 12:00
Sorry, please delete this posting.