Thanks for the link to the MS Antispyware program. I downloaded and scanned my system. It found one item that wasn't detected by Spybot and Ad-Aware SE. I want to learn more about the program.
I initially thought that the Microsoft AntiSpyware may be "best" antispyware, because it removed stuff not removed by AdAware or SpyBot.
But upon reviewing microsoft's antispyware boards ( http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp?ICP=spyware&sLCID=us ) - the program targets and removes TOO MANY items not spyware, including items from within internet explorer's restricted zone, registry items pointing to sites banned by spywareblaster, as well as legitimate program files (included those from microsoft itself).
People have not uncommonly lost their internet connection after following recommendations made by this program.
Who knows if what it removed from my computer was really spyware or not.
I uninstalled the program.
Message Edited by scoobydooby on 01-08-2005 01:01 PM
NEW and FREE Microsoft AntiSpy Software beta 1... I ran NIS, NAV, Spybot, AdAware, ZoneAlarm......No Threats......Then, MSN Antispy beta 1 and found Four additional threats.
It seems to work AOK...Recommended
Update...
I conducted the same procedure I used on my PC, to someone elses. She had 5 additional spies and over 3900 signatures, unbelieveable!
The IMESH music? downloads had the most spyware. This is just some info to share.
I think I jumped on the "beta bandwagon" too soon.The download went great and the scan went very well.the scan found 4 baddies including "webhance"(sporder.dll).Microsoft's spyware scan recommended removing this baddie which I did.I rebooted my computer and found out my McAfee services were not operating nor could I connect to the internet.After a few moments of sheer terror I then removed the anti spyware program and did a system restore.Everything seems to be working ok now but i am hesitant to try to download the anti spyware program again.I think I will stick with adaware and spybot s&d for a while until all the bugs are worked out of microsoft's program.best regards
I've been in contact with several people, from other discussion boards and some have the very same problem.
I highly recommend to notify Microsoft people with those details. Some of us have Restore and could use it, some don't and they're lost. "What should I do?" is their question. I recommend Restore if they have it, unless somone else has another solution, so let us know...
Nelson: I have downloaded the program and the only thing it found it found was the Spyware Squire, (I think it was called). I let it update yesterday and it found nothing at the end of the day...I ran it before Spybot and AdAware. However, I only did the quick scan and after reading you remarks, am kinda leery of doing the full scan as it may remove more than necessary.
I use NIS 2004 and have not had any problems (that I know of ), so am willing to let this thing stay on if it serves a purpose. Or do you think there is a potential of further problems developing. Thanks for any advice.
The majority of the people I've been in contact with, using Microsoft antispy, have been excited and happy for the results. Personally, I've experienced excellent results, as my family and friends.
Microsoft antispy was released 6 Jan 2005, Three days ago. As with everything in life, nothing is perfect and with time, we'll see it getting better and fixing problems, if any.
The main problem with TWO persons was not being able to enter the Internet after deleting the spyware. This happened to me after using "spy-blaster". I was lucky, for having "restore" in my PC.
When we download anything from the Internet, we take the chance of receiving something else we didn't intend, especially when it's free. Agree or not agree, with the users license, who reads the whole thing anyway?
What I recommend to you is run the whole program. It takes anywhere from around Thirty something minutes. At the end, study the results and remove or ignore from the summary, you decide.
If you have "restore", you could remove everything without worry. Remember, the program shows you a summary of findings before you decide to click to the next action.
Good Luck,
Nelson
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From what I've been reading on other message boards/newsgroups, there apparently is a minor compatibility problem between Microsoft AntiSpyware (MAS) and Spybot Search & Destroy. Here is the text of several newsgroup messages discussing this glitch:
> I generally don't like to install beta software, but Microsoft > AntiSpyware has gotten very good reviews so I thought I'd go ahead and try > it. Installation went fine. I immediately performed a quick scan, and this > was found: > > < > links that open when you use search engines.>> > > > SearchSquire was rated "high risk" so I let MAS (Microsoft AntiSpyware) > remove it. Neither Spybot, Spyware-Blaster or Ad-Aware SE 1.05 had > previously found this file. >
According to some of the folks in the grc newsgroups, this may be a false positive related to Spybot S&D's immunization feature. Because I don't use Spybot S&D and have yet to install Microsoft AntiSpyware, I'll just quote the relevant parts of that thread:
"mystic_dragon" wrote in message... > > "TJ" > : Only thing it found on my machine was SearchSquire. I am pretty well > : fortified here and I'm not sure where that came from. > > That could be a false positive. If you're running Spybot & you deleted the > SearchSquire, you may have deleted Spybot's immunization against > SearchSquire. Rerun Spybot's immunization & it will say you're missing one.
"TJ" wrote in message... > You're right, I did run the immunization right after using MS-AS yesterday > and it was missing exactly one. I didn't know why. > Thanks for the explanation!
"mhicaoidh" wrote in message... > Three points for a straight line ... confirmed here as well. Ran MS app > again after re-immunizing in Spybot S&D, and it detected SearchSquire again. > Set it to now Always Ignore.
Nelson
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I recently installed Microsoft Antispyware (beta) and I compared with Ad-Aware, which I've been using since I bought my Inspiron 8600 last July (2004).
And for me it's the opposite, MicrosoftAnti Spyware never finds anything when Ad-Aware finds 3 or 4 items! How come everybody says Microsoft Antispyware finds things that Ad-Aware doesn't find and for me it's the opposite? Am I doing anything wrong? What should I verify?
I doubt you are doing anything wrong. And it's a good idea not to delete something just because it's been identified as spyware.
I do research (using Google) on items that are found, and verify by manual removal procedures, if I am in doubt.
Sometimes, things in the restricted zone are tagged spyware, but it's not.
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It found two on mine also; which two 'problems' did it find on your system?
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ChrisM:
Thanks for the link to the MS Antispyware program. I downloaded and scanned my system. It found one item that wasn't detected by Spybot and Ad-Aware SE. I want to learn more about the program.
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Get Spy Sweeper to remove more ... :)
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I initially thought that the Microsoft AntiSpyware may be "best" antispyware, because it removed stuff not removed by AdAware or SpyBot.
But upon reviewing microsoft's antispyware boards ( http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp?ICP=spyware&sLCID=us ) - the program targets and removes TOO MANY items not spyware, including items from within internet explorer's restricted zone, registry items pointing to sites banned by spywareblaster, as well as legitimate program files (included those from microsoft itself).
People have not uncommonly lost their internet connection after following recommendations made by this program.
Who knows if what it removed from my computer was really spyware or not.
I uninstalled the program.
Message Edited by scoobydooby on 01-08-2005 01:01 PM
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NEW and FREE Microsoft AntiSpy Software beta 1...
I ran NIS, NAV, Spybot, AdAware, ZoneAlarm......No Threats......Then, MSN Antispy beta 1 and found Four additional threats.
It seems to work AOK...Recommended
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Nelson: I have downloaded the program and the only thing it found it found was the Spyware Squire, (I think it was called). I let it update yesterday and it found nothing at the end of the day...I ran it before Spybot and AdAware. However, I only did the quick scan and after reading you remarks, am kinda leery of doing the full scan as it may remove more than necessary.
I use NIS 2004 and have not had any problems (that I know of ), so am willing to let this thing stay on if it serves a purpose. Or do you think there is a potential of further problems developing. Thanks for any advice.
Message Edited by dalem29 on 01-09-2005 08:19 AM
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From what I've been reading on other message boards/newsgroups, there apparently is a minor compatibility problem between Microsoft AntiSpyware (MAS) and Spybot Search & Destroy. Here is the text of several newsgroup messages discussing this glitch:
> I generally don't like to install beta software, but Microsoft
> AntiSpyware has gotten very good reviews so I thought I'd go ahead and
try
> it. Installation went fine. I immediately performed a quick scan, and
this
> was found:
>
> < > links that open when you use search engines.>>
>
>
> SearchSquire was rated "high risk" so I let MAS (Microsoft
AntiSpyware)
> remove it. Neither Spybot, Spyware-Blaster or Ad-Aware SE 1.05 had
> previously found this file.
>
According to some of the folks in the grc newsgroups, this may be a false
positive related to Spybot S&D's immunization feature. Because I don't
use Spybot S&D and have yet to install Microsoft AntiSpyware, I'll just
quote the relevant parts of that thread:
"mystic_dragon" wrote in message...
>
> "TJ"
> : Only thing it found on my machine was SearchSquire. I am pretty well
> : fortified here and I'm not sure where that came from.
>
> That could be a false positive. If you're running Spybot & you deleted
the
> SearchSquire, you may have deleted Spybot's immunization against
> SearchSquire. Rerun Spybot's immunization & it will say you're missing
one.
"TJ" wrote in message...
> You're right, I did run the immunization right after using MS-AS
yesterday
> and it was missing exactly one. I didn't know why.
> Thanks for the explanation!
"mhicaoidh" wrote in message...
> Three points for a straight line ... confirmed here as well. Ran MS
app
> again after re-immunizing in Spybot S&D, and it detected SearchSquire
again.
> Set it to now Always Ignore.
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I doubt you are doing anything wrong. And it's a good idea not to delete something just because it's been identified as spyware.
I do research (using Google) on items that are found, and verify by manual removal procedures, if I am in doubt.
Sometimes, things in the restricted zone are tagged spyware, but it's not.
You can also ask here if you have questions.