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March 29th, 2008 22:00

defragmenting issue

I just recently ran defrag, and was told that "some files could not be defragmented" and to "check the report to see these files". I usually don't have a problem with this, but I checked the report and it showed no files on the list. It looks like there's this one red line to the right of the blue files, with 70% free space. I run it pretty frequently to keep it that way, but every other time it would have all the files together with no 'stray' files.  Why isn't the report showing what these files are? How can I fix this?

 

Thanks for any info:smileyhappy:

 

M.

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March 30th, 2008 00:00

there is nothing wrong and you don't need to defrag often, 2 to 4 times a year should be plenty unless you are doing constant filesharing

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March 30th, 2008 01:00

Often I ask myself when my opinion matters, normally if I'm no expert in the subject I will let go of my opinion and trust the expert I'm asking.

 

you question was already answered, the reason there is nothing wrong is because there isn't, the files you can't touch or defrag are not suppose to be touched or defraged, you have your mbr sectors and then sometimes some system files that should never be fragmented.

 

fragmenting will only help you if you get more then 50% fragmented, otherwise now in days with the amound of ram and dual and quad cores and the huge size of HDDs you would barely notice anything from fragmented drive unless its over 50%.

 

now if you are looking to speed things up on your pc and hot a fast processor and good amount of ram, then the way to work with your HDD is to use 2.

one for your os and one for your fileshaing.

 

if you are using the same drive that windows is on for filesharing then guess what, get ready to lose everything.

 

but if you get 2 drives then this is how you do it.

 

you get a small drive like say 60 or 80GB in size but a 10,000RPM for your windows.

 

then you get a big drive  say like 250GB or bigger and you store and do all your fileshaing out of that.

 

that way your windows is runnning on a faster drive (10,000RPM) and when your 250GB drive goes bad from filesharing your windows will not be touched.

 

let me know if that makes sense ;)  

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March 30th, 2008 01:00

Well that doesnt really answer the question about why the files werent listed, and why I cant clear the ones that arent fragmented. I realize that nothing is necessarily wrong, but 2-4 times a YEAR sounds like its not enough, in my opinion. I mean, I dont do a lot of filesharing as you mentioned, but still, I would think that even with normal usage, it would need it more than that:smileyhappy:  If not to just keep it well maintained.

 

-M.

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March 30th, 2008 02:00

Sorry looks like I misunderstood your answer, I thought you said you did do filesharing which is why I said to use 2 drives, so sorry about that, its all on me.

 

ok then so in short don't defrag unless its close to 50% or more and don't worry about the red sectors are red because those files are not suppose to be defrag and are important files.

 

if you keep your system clean as you say you do then you are good to go, just make sure you got a firewall and an upto date anti virus and you are good to go.

 

good luck ;)  

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March 30th, 2008 02:00

Well first off, I wasnt aware that you were an expert, since you didnt note that in your reply. And I certainly am not one in this field. Also, I should have said that I really dont do ANY filesharing. Im not sure as to what that even is:smileyhappy: So your explanation, in great detail, didnt make sense to someone who doesnt exactly understand what you meant..meaning 'me'. However, I did get something out of what you were saying, and that is-- I dont need to worry about this issue, and not to defrag so often. Everything is working great, so its not like I have this horribly slow system, where I need to keep freeing up space. I do keep it clean of spyware, temp files, etc. So it does run really well. Its not even 2 years old, so it doesnt have too many miles on it yet.

  I do appreciate your help...thanks :smileywink:

 

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March 30th, 2008 13:00

Otiss,

   No actually you didnt misunderstand my answer.  I made the mistake of saying "I dont do a lot of filesharing", which meant I did some..??? I dont do too much with files in general, other than open or close them:smileyindifferent:  And I DO have an updated AV AND firewall, which obviously everyone should have. Im thinking of changing to a better one though. 

 Thanks for the help:smileyhappy:

 

-M. 

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March 30th, 2008 14:00

your are welcome, its been my pleasure ;)

 

if you want an excellent, light and quick av looked up nod32 ;)

Message Edited by Otiss on 03-30-2008 10:21 AM

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March 30th, 2008 14:00

what is your firewall?

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March 30th, 2008 14:00

Well my AV is good, it was the firewall that I was thinking on changing. But thanks, if I ever want to do some switching with the AV, I'll check our the one you mentioned.

  

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March 30th, 2008 16:00

Well I used to have Trend Micro PcCillin, until the trial ran out. Now I just have the regular Windows one. So when I said I was thinking of getting another one, I guess that would mean I would disable that one and use the new one.  I've checked out several, but haven't decided. I haven't had any problems with viruses, but I've heard that other firewalls would provide more protection. Its still in the works.....I just have to pick one:smileywink:

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March 30th, 2008 17:00

Firewalls are pretty much all the same, they block ports on your windows, there is no real thing as more protection when we are talking blocking ports, unless you are looking for some expert networking abilities.

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March 30th, 2008 19:00

Well actually, they're not. I'd found out that Windows firewall only blocks INCOMING traffic, so its not as effective as the ones that block OUTGOING as well:smileywink:  There were a couple that were recommended, so maybe I'll check them out.  But for now, this issue HAS been resolved, so thanks for your time:smileyhappy:

 

-M.

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March 31st, 2008 01:00

Actually windows firewall blocks both there is no firewall that blocks only incoming or outgoing, any firewall will block both ;)  windows just does not ask you everytime like other firewalls, it follows the exception rules you have given to it ;)

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March 31st, 2008 03:00

Otiss:

 

Your understanding is incorrect. The Windows XP native firewall provides no protection against outgoing traffic.

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March 31st, 2008 03:00

Thanks Joe!:smileyhappy: Its nice to have some support:smileywink:

 

-M. 

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