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February 28th, 2007 20:00

How do I make the ¬ symbol?

This "¬" symbol is necessary for my communications, and I am tired of having to copy and paste it from previous emails. On a desktop computer I can create it by pushing ALT 0172, but since there is no number pad to the right of this laptop, I cannot figure out how to create it.
 
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Ana

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February 28th, 2007 21:00

Does your laptop have a "Fn" key that brings up alternate key functions? I haven't looked at recent ones, but my Inspiron 8100 does (as have all the old Toshibas I've owned), and it simulates the number pad on the block of keys from 7-0 down to M-/. In this case, "Fn+Alt MJ7K" produces ¬

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February 28th, 2007 22:00

Hey, I think you've definitely nailed the answer! Thanks, I didn't even realize that the number keypad was integrated with the letters. And yes, the Fn key + ALT seems to initiate the commands. However, I think something is still not setup right, because whenever I get to the 7 (whether I hit Fn + ALT + MJ7 or simply Fn + ALT + 7) the command is immediately interrupted and a new browser window opens (google). Do you know how can I avoid that?
 
Thanks so much for your reply,
Ana

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March 1st, 2007 01:00

That's odd. Maybe it depends on the browser. You might have to do some hunting to find if your browser has some keyboard shortcuts that preempt the character codes. Make sure the keyboard is mapped the same on yours as mine. On mine the keypad numbers are in blue on the keys (or at least they were before they wore off). It's possible your layout is a little different. And remember that you need to hold down FN and Alt throughout. Try some other alternate character codes and see if they work. That should indicate whether the basic process is working. FN-Alt-0-2-3-3 should give you an é, and since it's all on the bottom rows, it might indicate whether there's an overlap with only certain keys. The only other thing I can suggest, which is a clumsy workaround, but will always work, even when alt key combos don't (I always had key code problems in Firefox 1.x) is to open the Windows character map ( start-run-charmap if it isn't on your run menu), select and copy the character and then paste it in. Since the character in question is a standard one in most fonts, it doesn't matter which font you open in the character map. You copy the code, not the font, so when you paste it in it won't come out in the odd font. The character map seems to be a forgotten app, left off the menu since Win 3.1. But it's still there.

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March 1st, 2007 04:00

Although it's strangely not mentioned among Windows Explorer's keyboard shortcuts, Fn + ALT + 7 definitely is one for changing the current window to the home page default (I hadn't realized that before; I have since then changed it to Yahoo's homepage, and this shortcut key now automatically takes me there). Anyway, I can't find anywhere that shows how specific shortcuts can be turned off...is that possible? (I have an Inspiron 5150...the keyboard you describe sounds exactly like mine).
If not, I guess I'll just have to stick to copying and pasting...
Thanks again for your help!

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March 1st, 2007 12:00

Character codes only work when NUM LOCK is enabled. Otherwise the keypad does arrows and shortcut keys, and 7 is always "home."

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March 1st, 2007 18:00

Yes, all Dell laptops have a numeric keypad available thru the FN key.

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