The drivers from NVidia's site work fine on Dell systems. I, as most others, strongly recommend against obtaining drivers from Windows Update, and note that the manufacturer's Web site is a more reliable source.
Thanks Denny! I agree with you about the drivers from the Windows update site. Unfortunatly they seem to have this driver on the critical list, and I'm not sure how to dissable it from further downloading. If I turn off the automatic downloading feature, I run the risk of not getting the latest updates.
Denny If I click on Windows update, it scans my computer and under Critical updates & Service packs (1)
I click on this it says!
Nvidia Driver Version 52.16 Download Size 12.2 MB 47 Min Supported Hardware
When I click on supported hardware it list 2 Nvidia GeForce2 mx Nvidia GeForce4 mx 420 (This is the one I have)
There are no other service numbers listed. I can't imagine why this would be a critical update. I also don't understand why it downloads it but won't install it. As of right now I have dissabled automatic updating untill I find some further information about it.
That driver is one iteration out of date. The latest available is 53.03. Download it from
here and install it and Windows Update should stop showing it as an available update.
I just installed the Nvida update! Following the information posted by Dell Moderators in the Video forum, I uninstalled old drivers and ran the cleaner. I then installed the updated drivers version 53.03 (Thanks to Denny for the link). All went well and I now have new drivers and some new features.
I then proceeded to the Windows XP update site and guess what!!! It still lists the version Nvida version 51.16 as a critical update. Some days it pays to stay in bed... This was my day!
Anyway. Thanks Denny, for your helping hand in pointing me in the right direction for the latest update.
This was just posted on the Windows XP update forum.
Maybe Dell needs to address this issue!
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Dimension 4500 - Pentium 4 - 2.0 GHz
WINDOWS XP (Home Edition) SP-1 (PLUS!)
512 MB DDR SDRAM
80 GB HD 7200
64 MB GEFORCE4 Video card with TV out
SoundBlaster Live 1024 Voices Sound Card
16X DVD-ROM (LITEON LTD 163)
Pacific Digital 32 X 12 X 48 CD Burner (Nero)
100 MB Internal Zip Drive
IEEE 1394 Firewire Card
JVC GR-D90 DV Camcorder
Sandisk 6 in 1 card reader
Belkin 2.0 USB Hub
HP Deskjet 970 Cxi
HP Photosmart 100
HWID=Hardware ID (this identifies what card you have to the operating system HW=Hardware (i.e. your nVidia card)
We and nVidia know of this problem... Basically because 53.03 does not contain a 4 part HWID match for your device lt installs a 2-part HWID match. Windows Update only lets 4-HWID's onto the site but it always sees a 4-part HWID match as a better match then a two part so it offers you the update even though you have a newer driver installed. To fix this in the future nVidia will try and post drivers that have 4-part HWID matches on their website. You will be able to uncheck the box by the update but it will stay there untill you get a driver from nVidia with a 4 -part HWID that is newer. Hopefully nVidia next driver posting will have a 4-part HWID match for your HW. Let me know if you have any further questions... Thanks, Aaron C. Smith Microsoft Video Driver OCA Triage Team Lead
(Replying here as the earliest mention of this problem I can see.)
I make it a practice to get my hardware drivers from Dell. Often, there's something OEM-ish about the Dell hardware vs. retail, and you're risking instability to go to the vendor's site. Admittedly, Dell's been better about this than some others.
An MX420 isn't a gaming card, and I have no need for the bleeding edge. I'm pleased that those with auto-winupdate haven't had many problems with the 53.x driver from Critical Updates, but I feel that's one stupid place for a hw driver update. I strongly object to Microsoft's starting to do this, and I think it's time for Dell to do some complaining. Auto WinUpdate and autoinstall are today's norm. MS is pushing that. Someone's going to get bit eventually.
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The drivers from NVidia's site work fine on Dell systems. I, as most others, strongly recommend against obtaining drivers from Windows Update, and note that the manufacturer's Web site is a more reliable source.
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February 6th, 2004 11:00
Thanks Denny!
I agree with you about the drivers from the Windows update site.
Unfortunatly they seem to have this driver on the critical list, and I'm not sure how to dissable it from further downloading.
If I turn off the automatic downloading feature, I run the risk of not getting the latest updates.
Regards,
Stan
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February 6th, 2004 14:00
What is the number of that update? I have all the Critical Updates for XP SP1 installed and I don't recall any that dealt with NVidia.
Ziwpiz
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February 6th, 2004 15:00
Denny
If I click on Windows update, it scans my computer and under Critical updates & Service packs (1)
I click on this it says!
Nvidia Driver Version 52.16
Download Size 12.2 MB 47 Min
Supported Hardware
When I click on supported hardware it list 2
Nvidia GeForce2 mx
Nvidia GeForce4 mx 420 (This is the one I have)
There are no other service numbers listed. I can't imagine why this would be a critical update. I also don't understand why it downloads it but won't install it.
As of right now I have dissabled automatic updating untill I find some further information about it.
Again thanks for your help.
Regards,
Stan
Denny Denham
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February 6th, 2004 15:00
That driver is one iteration out of date. The latest available is 53.03. Download it from here and install it and Windows Update should stop showing it as an available update.
Ziwpiz
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February 6th, 2004 17:00
I just installed the Nvida update!
Following the information posted by Dell Moderators in the Video forum, I uninstalled old drivers and ran the cleaner. I then installed the updated drivers version 53.03 (Thanks to Denny for the link).
All went well and I now have new drivers and some new features.
I then proceeded to the Windows XP update site and guess what!!! It still lists the version Nvida version 51.16 as a critical update.
This was my day!
Some days it pays to stay in bed...
Anyway. Thanks Denny, for your helping hand in pointing me in the right direction for the latest update.
Much appreciated.
Regards,
Stan
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February 6th, 2004 19:00
How odd. I have that update listed on my display at the Windows Update site but it is listed as a driver update, not a Critical Update.
What's the URL of that forum?
Message Edited by Denny Denham on 02-06-2004 01:38 PM
Ziwpiz
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February 6th, 2004 19:00
Denny!
This was just posted on the Windows XP update forum.
Maybe Dell needs to address this issue!
Dimension 4500 - Pentium 4 - 2.0 GHz
WINDOWS XP (Home Edition) SP-1 (PLUS!)
512 MB DDR SDRAM
80 GB HD 7200
64 MB GEFORCE4 Video card with TV out
SoundBlaster Live 1024 Voices Sound Card
16X DVD-ROM (LITEON LTD 163)
Pacific Digital 32 X 12 X 48 CD Burner (Nero)
100 MB Internal Zip Drive
IEEE 1394 Firewire Card
JVC GR-D90 DV Camcorder
Sandisk 6 in 1 card reader
Belkin 2.0 USB Hub
HP Deskjet 970 Cxi
HP Photosmart 100
Denny Denham
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February 6th, 2004 20:00
Good information. Of course, it doesn't explain why your update is Critical and mine is Driver, but one can't have everything.
Ziwpiz
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February 6th, 2004 20:00
I sent an e-mail to microsoft and this is the answer i received
From: "Microsoft Video Driver OCA Triage" vidoca@microsoft.com
HWID=Hardware ID (this identifies what card you have to the operating system
HW=Hardware (i.e. your nVidia card)
We and nVidia know of this problem...
Basically because 53.03 does not contain a 4 part HWID match for your device lt installs a 2-part HWID match.
Windows Update only lets 4-HWID's onto the site but it always sees a 4-part HWID match as a better match
then a two part so it offers you the update even though you have a newer driver installed.
To fix this in the future nVidia will try and post drivers that have 4-part HWID matches on their website.
You will be able to uncheck the box by the update but it will stay there untill you get a driver from nVidia with a 4
-part HWID that is newer. Hopefully nVidia next driver posting will have a 4-part HWID match for your HW.
Let me know if you have any further questions...
Thanks,
Aaron C. Smith
Microsoft Video Driver OCA Triage Team Lead
So this is where it stands for right now. The URL for the up-date forum is http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp?icp=windowsupdate
Regards,
Stan
http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp?icp=windowsupdate
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February 10th, 2004 22:00
I make it a practice to get my hardware drivers from Dell. Often, there's something OEM-ish about the Dell hardware vs. retail, and you're risking instability to go to the vendor's site. Admittedly, Dell's been better about this than some others.
An MX420 isn't a gaming card, and I have no need for the bleeding edge. I'm pleased that those with auto-winupdate haven't had many problems with the 53.x driver from Critical Updates, but I feel that's one stupid place for a hw driver update. I strongly object to Microsoft's starting to do this, and I think it's time for Dell to do some complaining. Auto WinUpdate and autoinstall are today's norm. MS is pushing that. Someone's going to get bit eventually.