@syl7 I honestly wouldn't count on totally reliable answers from Dell Support rep here. I've seen all kinds of posts here about answers they got from Dell Sales or Support about whether a product would be compatible or whether it had some feature or why it wasn't working, and the answer was completely wrong. I have even personally reported cases where Dell's documentation was wrong, which Dell later corrected. I realize that if Dell's reps and their own documentation can't always be relied upon to be accurate, then that makes it harder to get an answer that you can be confident is correct. But that's how it is sometimes.
As for the features you specifically asked about, as I said, the fact that they are missing from the specs of newer CPUs does not necessarily mean they aren't present. It's not like the item is listed and the spec says "No". But looking at the descriptions of those features from the 9th Gen CPU you asked about:
Clear Video was a technology that applied before even regular HD existed. So that is ancient by today's standards.
Clear Video HD is specifically described as a replacement for Clear Video. But even that only applies to regular HD, and Intel has now moved on to 4K, and in fact their latest GPUs can support up to 8K. So that was probably dropped from spec sheets because it's just obsolete now. But modern Intel GPUs still have hardware decode support for higher resolutions and more advanced video codecs, even if Clear Video HD isn't specifically listed.
Graphics Burst Frequency isn't something I see even on Intel's official specs for that 9th Gen CPU here. But both the 9th Gen and 10th Gen CPU specs mention a "Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency". Burst frequencies and max dynamic frequencies mean the same thing. It's the highest clock speed a GPU can run at, even if only temporarily based on available power, temperatures, etc.
InTru 3D only applies if you are watching stereoscopic 3D movies. Those are relatively rare, and displays that support stereoscopic 3D are also quite rare. They were around for a few years, but around 2017-2018, TV vendors started removing support for 3D because it just wasn't popular enough to keep offering. So that spec may have been dropped because once again, it's not something that people typically care about.
As for Turbo Boost, the 9th Gen specs say it supports Turbo Boost 2.0. The 10th Gen specs have an item called "Intel® Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 Frequency". So Turbo Boost is still there, and it's apparently a newer version.
As for My WiFi, Intel's description just says it's a technology meant to allow you to connect wirelessly to printers and stereos. I've been able to do that for quite a while without needing any specific Intel technology for it, so I wouldn't worry about that.
I see absolutely nothing to suggest that getting the 9th Gen CPU would get you a "better" Intel GPU than the 10th Gen version.
An i9 CPU in a system like the 9500 would give me serious pause -- the slim/light design will throttle it back appreciably (it does on just about any system where it's offered, including Macbooks where it's been offered, and throttles to the point where the i9 is slower than an i7).
If you really expect to leverage the performance of an i9 CPU, the XPS lineup is not the system to buy. You need a bulkier system with a more capable thermal management solution engineered into it.
@syl7 Some spec items missing doesn’t necessarily mean anything is different. Intel may have decided to simply stop including those specs starting with newer products, especially something like VGA resolutions since most systems don’t have native VGA outputs anyway. The XPS 15 9500 certainly doesn’t. But if you want a significant difference in graphics, wait for the next-generation XPS 15 that should be using the Core 11th Gen H Series CPUs. Those will finally include the Intel Xe GPU, which is a significant jump in performance, and it supports four displays rather than three, and it supports DisplayPort 1.4/HBR3 rather than DisplayPort 1.2/HBR2 like the 630.
ok for the VGa but for the rest like my wifi?. I saw too that the next generation 11TH got the new UHD 730 with those specifications too so I really puzzled.
What is the diffrence between UHD 630/730 and the 10/11th graphics cards?
and I can't wait i need a computer. But thank you very much again for the reply.
@syl7 The 730 is not the same as the Xe GPU that I mentioned. Not all Core 11th Gen CPUs have the same GPU. That was also true with Core 10th Gen, where Comet Lake versions got an older 630 GPU while the Ice Lake 10th Gen CPU models got a new GPU. I really can’t speak to the other items you want to know about.
And So what about the other items? someone told taht all item are included in 10th graphics card but not a person from Dell. I would like to know from DEll
Wow what a serious effective answers. this is the first I got in 2 weeks. Thank you so much for that, jphughan and , ejn63.
The fact is that I have no choice. My first computer the I7 have some diffculties so Dell propose me to exchange it with this I9 with 32 GO Ram and an 1630 TI nvidia graphics. I saw that people are saying I9 is working slower than I7, and i don't like it. You gave me a confirmation. and the fact that more capable thermal management is needed. Intel did not understand why I red on the web that I9 is said to be slower... I think the technician on phone what about to laugh but this is because of the builder and they said it to me too. I would like to know about Dell that why i posted here. and just because it is impossible to get and answer ( even wrong) from support or else.
the question is why Dell bridle things. if i understood well. Strange at minimum.
thank you again
I must choose now
Sincerely
I notices what you saif for the next 11th intel generation with Xe. I will see that for the futur and thank you for your advice.
for now I must reply if I accept or not the exchange.
no no not only the the thermal management, It was a tiny part. I needed to understand all. and to have a whole picture. of every item I posted. the whole list. and much more.
@syl7 If your main concern over the specs of the exchange was performance due to thermal management, then why didn't you ask that question in the first first place? That would have been a much simpler answer to provide than looking into a list of GPU features.
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@syl7 I honestly wouldn't count on totally reliable answers from Dell Support rep here. I've seen all kinds of posts here about answers they got from Dell Sales or Support about whether a product would be compatible or whether it had some feature or why it wasn't working, and the answer was completely wrong. I have even personally reported cases where Dell's documentation was wrong, which Dell later corrected. I realize that if Dell's reps and their own documentation can't always be relied upon to be accurate, then that makes it harder to get an answer that you can be confident is correct. But that's how it is sometimes.
As for the features you specifically asked about, as I said, the fact that they are missing from the specs of newer CPUs does not necessarily mean they aren't present. It's not like the item is listed and the spec says "No". But looking at the descriptions of those features from the 9th Gen CPU you asked about:
I see absolutely nothing to suggest that getting the 9th Gen CPU would get you a "better" Intel GPU than the 10th Gen version.
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An i9 CPU in a system like the 9500 would give me serious pause -- the slim/light design will throttle it back appreciably (it does on just about any system where it's offered, including Macbooks where it's been offered, and throttles to the point where the i9 is slower than an i7).
If you really expect to leverage the performance of an i9 CPU, the XPS lineup is not the system to buy. You need a bulkier system with a more capable thermal management solution engineered into it.
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May 28th, 2021 06:00
@syl7 Some spec items missing doesn’t necessarily mean anything is different. Intel may have decided to simply stop including those specs starting with newer products, especially something like VGA resolutions since most systems don’t have native VGA outputs anyway. The XPS 15 9500 certainly doesn’t. But if you want a significant difference in graphics, wait for the next-generation XPS 15 that should be using the Core 11th Gen H Series CPUs. Those will finally include the Intel Xe GPU, which is a significant jump in performance, and it supports four displays rather than three, and it supports DisplayPort 1.4/HBR3 rather than DisplayPort 1.2/HBR2 like the 630.
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Than you for youranswer,
ok for the VGa but for the rest like my wifi?. I saw too that the next generation 11TH got the new UHD 730 with those specifications too so I really puzzled.
What is the diffrence between UHD 630/730 and the 10/11th graphics cards?
and I can't wait i need a computer. But thank you very much again for the reply.
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May 28th, 2021 09:00
@syl7 The 730 is not the same as the Xe GPU that I mentioned. Not all Core 11th Gen CPUs have the same GPU. That was also true with Core 10th Gen, where Comet Lake versions got an older 630 GPU while the Ice Lake 10th Gen CPU models got a new GPU. I really can’t speak to the other items you want to know about.
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May 28th, 2021 12:00
Ok thank you
What is the best between the 2 I mentionned so?
And So what about the other items? someone told taht all item are included in 10th graphics card but not a person from Dell. I would like to know from DEll
Sincerely
syl7
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May 28th, 2021 15:00
Wow what a serious effective answers. this is the first I got in 2 weeks. Thank you so much for that, jphughan and , ejn63.
The fact is that I have no choice. My first computer the I7 have some diffculties so Dell propose me to exchange it with this I9 with 32 GO Ram and an 1630 TI nvidia graphics. I saw that people are saying I9 is working slower than I7, and i don't like it. You gave me a confirmation. and the fact that more capable thermal management is needed. Intel did not understand why I red on the web that I9 is said to be slower... I think the technician on phone what about to laugh but this is because of the builder and they said it to me too. I would like to know about Dell that why i posted here. and just because it is impossible to get and answer ( even wrong) from support or else.
the question is why Dell bridle things. if i understood well. Strange at minimum.
thank you again
I must choose now
Sincerely
I notices what you saif for the next 11th intel generation with Xe. I will see that for the futur and thank you for your advice.
for now I must reply if I accept or not the exchange.
syl7
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May 28th, 2021 16:00
no no not only the the thermal management, It was a tiny part. I needed to understand all. and to have a whole picture. of every item I posted. the whole list. and much more.
You did it thank you so much.
Sincerely
jphughan
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May 28th, 2021 16:00
@syl7 If your main concern over the specs of the exchange was performance due to thermal management, then why didn't you ask that question in the first first place? That would have been a much simpler answer to provide than looking into a list of GPU features.