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June 12th, 2020 06:00

Looking to completely disabling touchpad gestures from windows

This may seem odd. But I'm trying to find a way to disable precision touchpad gestures permanently. And the reason being is that I want to be able to move the cursor by putting only two fingers on the touchpad. And when I do that, instead of moving the cursor, it simply wont move. Instead it register it as a two-fingers scroll gesture.

I understand that it's a feature rather than an issue. However I'd like to disable it in order to get my cursor to move by using two fingers Instead. It's essential for my work that's why I'm desperate for a solution.

 

It's supposed to be possible, because when I'm in BIOS UEFI I can move the cursor freely with two fingers without registering any touchpad gestures, which is exactly what I'm looking for. 

 

XPS 15 7590.

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June 12th, 2020 09:00

@Miish3ov  I believe the XPS 15 7590 just uses the touchpad framework built into recent versions of Windows 10, in which case you should be able to disable gestures by going to Settings > Devices > Touchpad.  If you go there and don't see a bunch of customization options, then along the right edge you should see an "Additional settings" link that should open Dell's own touchpad customization application.  Either way, if you disable all gestures, you may be able to move the mouse with two fingers.  But I'm admittedly not sure about that.  The reason I say that is because the reason the BIOS likely works the way you want is probably because it doesn't load an advanced touchpad driver that would be aware of multi-touch.  Windows does, so even if you choose to disable all two-finger gestures, it will still know when you've got two fingers down, and I don't know if it will necessarily just default to regular motion whenever that's the case.

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June 12th, 2020 10:00

Hi, @jphughan Thanks for your input!

I have in fact tried disable the gestures via Settings > Devices > Touchpad. And indeed it does disable the gestures I select, unfortunately though it still detects the two fingers movement and freezes my cursor. Even though no gestures are functioning.

Originally I didn't have the Dell GUI Touchpad customization settings in the "Additional Mouse settings" Window, so I had to install it manually from Dell's website, I managed to open the settings needed. However, from there, when I tried to even adjust the cursor's speed it doesn't even affect the cursor. Disabling the gestures too didn't do anything.

So for now, I wonder if there is an old Windows 10 version that is prior to precision touchpad gestures that I can resort to, where it doesn't activate any gestures what so ever?

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June 12th, 2020 11:00

@Miish3ov  Happy to help as best I can.  When you customized settings in the Dell Touchpad app, since it sounds like that system uses that, did you click Save in the upper-right corner after making changes?  Some people seem to miss that, but settings won't take effect until you do that.

Running an old release of Windows 10 isn't really practical because Microsoft only provides security updates for the current release (2004 as of this writing) and the two previous releases at any given time.  Once a given release is older than that, no more updates are provided, even security updates.  The only exception is people using the LTSC versions of Windows 10, which get 10 years of patch support, but those are only available to volume licensing customers like enterprises, and even Microsoft discourages using them except for specialized use cases.  And in any case, I'm not even sure which version of Windows 10 introduced the Precision Trackpad framework, in fact it might have been there since the initial version.  I just don't remember anymore.

But if you don't really care about any enhanced touchpad functionality at all, have you tried just uninstalling the Dell Touchpad software/drivers completely?  In that case, Windows will just use a generic mouse driver.  But you might find that that's preferable for your purposes.

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June 12th, 2020 11:00

@jphughan I clicked save and still nothing changed. 

 

If by uninstalling Dell touchpad drivers you mean uninstalling it from Device Manager. Then yes, I've done that. And it was right after I installed Windows 10 on a brand new SSD. Right after uninstalling the driver, the device manager list refreshes automatically and the driver shows up again. As if it's immune to deletion.

 If 'generic mouse driver' is basically going to ignore touchpad gestures just like in the BIOS, I'd be more than happy to do it. Just don't know the method yet.

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June 12th, 2020 12:00

@Miish3ov  No, uninstalling from Device Manager isn't what I mean.  That will just cause the device to reappear at the next reboot or hardware scan if it's still connected.  Go to Programs and Features and see if you have an application called Dell Touchpad or something along those lines in there.  If so, uninstall that.  If you don't have that, then I don't know exactly how you'd uninstall the "full" touchpad driver package after you've already installed it.  I've never really looked into it.

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June 13th, 2020 05:00

@jphughan for that I don't actually have any application related to Dell touchpad do begin with. So there is nothing in my system to uninstall for that matter. However two clues I have for now. First is the two files related to the touchpad that are located in C:\Windows\System32\drivers, (mouclass.sys, mouhid.sys). no matter what I do I can't delete them, a message keeps popping up "The action can't be completed because the file is open in another program" even though I made sure I ended all the processes running in my laptop.

The second clue I found after surfing the web, is to open the Registry Editor and head to Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PrecisionTouchPad. found some values there that I think they're related, although I'm not familiar with adjusting values in the editor, but I think I can achieve what I want from there.

Screenshot of the values 

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