I have an optiplex 7060 SFF and I am trying to load up with more SSD's. I have a normal PCIE drive in the pcie slot, works fine. I have a pair of SATA SSD (Samsung MZ-MLN256D) chips sitting in paragon PTJS E173569 laptop cradles and power splitter N701D. When I take the N701D out of the equation, no problem I can get one of the SATA drives to work. When I use the N701D on even just one of the drives, the coputer does not recognise the drive. Yet, if I connect a differenct SSD with the N701D inline, this also works just fine.
Am I being dumb expecting this to work, or am I doing something wrong?
it is a puzzle and I unfortunately do not have a good explanation. thanks for doing the experiments. The mSATA 52 pin to regular sata 15+7 pin is not as simple as we wished. the splitter might have caused a failure in this pin adaptation. if one of those days I get hold of such a caddy I will experiment myself as I have some mSATAs and the Dell splitter in Optiplex 9020.
at this point to move on is a good idea. sorry I wish I could shed more light on this paradox.
you got me curious last week as I used to take these adapter for granted, like you can just adapt anything to anything, a hippo to a crocodile for example.
so I did some research and self education on mSATA. I never knew its 52 pin out is so complex.
I am looking at the Dell N701D image and now I think I have a good explanation why it would not work w mSATA to sata contraption.
in a nutshell mSATA only uses 3.3 V for power, which is provided by 3 pins of regular 15 pin sata power connector (orange) in comes N701D. Dell omits the orange wire. Only yellow 12V and red 5V wires are used. So mSATA does not get its wanted 3.3V. It has basically got no power.
Hey, thanks for taking the time to help, much appreciated.
Well, I had that thought too, so a little further extreme testing: I have yet another N701D (my company was e-wasting a number of Dells...) so I have replicated the same effect with a different splitter, AND I have daisy-chained two splitters into the mix and successfully run up three SATA drives having robbed the connector from the DVD. That worked no problems, detected the drives etc.
And I have swapped over the drive to a different SATA cable.
So I am pretty sure that it is not the splitter AS SUCH, and all the SATA connetions are working just fine. I suspect that there is a compatability issue between splitters and the laptop SSD disk caddy.
the splitter works with regular sata drives such as 3.5 or 2.5 but does not work with a single mSATA ssd in the caddy. the caddy works with the 7060 SFF power connector directly without the splitter.
try test the splitter and mSATA enclosure in another Dell desktop
I would also try replace 7060 cmos battery and clear cmos settings via mobo jumper in case there is a cmos issue detecting a contrived storage device.
pls upload a pic or exact model of your mSATA laptop caddy.
in theory:
the splitter is just a passive bifurcation of 15 pin sata power.
for unknown reason your 7060 fails to detect the mSATA when there is a SATA power splitter, yet has no problem detecting a regular sata drive connected to the splitter. quite strange and hard to explain.
The CMOS trick failed to get anywhere other than needing a date reset. Taking the whole shooting match to an old Optiplex 9020 replicated the issue. A perfectly good spinning disk works fine at the end of a splitter, and the mounted SSD fails to register. Here's a pic of the SSD in its mounting.
I am thinking that I should abandon this, I am wasting my time and yours. It would seem that repurposing these disks is not meant to be. I should just remove the data onto other devices and be done with it. Agreed?
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Posted November 19th, 2024 01:23
it is a puzzle and I unfortunately do not have a good explanation. thanks for doing the experiments. The mSATA 52 pin to regular sata 15+7 pin is not as simple as we wished. the splitter might have caused a failure in this pin adaptation. if one of those days I get hold of such a caddy I will experiment myself as I have some mSATAs and the Dell splitter in Optiplex 9020.
at this point to move on is a good idea. sorry I wish I could shed more light on this paradox.