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November 9th, 2012 20:00
BIOS cannot detect msata drive
I am trying to use a msata drive in my precision m4700 but not very successful. I have tried to use Crucial and mushkin in the msata/WWAN slot. BIOS simply ignore the card. I know it was trying since it took a while for BIOS to finish booting if I put the card in.
But it alread list mini card SSD to be {none}
Anyone has similar experience?
Thanks for the help
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ntest
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November 15th, 2012 06:00
Ravi,
Thanks. I already tried with another mSATA from my co-worker's computer. Next I will try with a WWAN card.
dannysharp
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November 17th, 2012 08:00
Hi all,
I have recently bought a M4700 which has a normal 750GB SATA HDD in.
I bought a 128GB mSATA (6Gb/s) SSD from Crucial to go in the mSATA/Mobile internet slot.
Crucial say this is GAURANTEED M4700 compatible, hmmm........
I installed it, booted up, the BIOS saw it straight away, Windows saw it, installed it, so i went to computer management to Initialize it.
Problem, when i try to initialize it, WINDOWS says "THE REQUEST COULD NOT BE PERFORNED BECAUSE OF AN I/O ERROR"
I am on my second SSD as i rang Crucial, AND Dell, who both said i was doing it right, so i sent it back to Crucial.
The have just sent me a replacement, and guess what.........
It won't work, exactly the same problem please help!!
SO far ive tried Updating ALL windows drivers, Flashing the BIOS, iv'e even reinstalled windows with the mSATA installed first.
I am a Microsoft Network Professional and i'm stuffed if i can work out why it doesn't work!
I know the drive is mSATA III (6Gb/s), and for some bizarre reason the new Dell M4700 only runs mSATA II (3Gb/s),
but this shouldn't matter as they are meant to be fully backwards compatible?.
My full spec is:
Windows 7 64bit Pro.
I7 3720QM @2.6GHZ
16GB 1600MHZ RAM (2x8GB, 2x free slots)
K2000M Quadro grtaphics
Intel PRO wireless
Bluetooth card
DVD r/W
SD card rader
etc.
Can anybody suggest anything?, am i missing a driver, or are Crucial telling lies about it's compatibility,?????
as ive been told Dell program the system to only let certain mSATA's work??.
Many thanks,
Dan
ntest
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November 18th, 2012 18:00
I just tried put a WWAN card in the same slot in m4700 and it worked perfectly. I put my mSATA in a W520 laptop and the BIOS recognized the type of the mSATA. So it seems that both WWAN/mSATA slot and mSATA card are ok. That puzzled me. So I tried to compare the pin positions of the WWAN card with Crucial card and found that they do not align very well. So I wonder m4700 may not accept any typpe of mSATA card.
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November 19th, 2012 17:00
just wondering have you gone to bios .. and checked under .system devices to see if the msata /wwlan port was enabled cant remember what default setting was ...check worth a shot
ntest
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November 20th, 2012 06:00
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I tried to change the BIOS settings many times and once with the help from DELL support. The WWAN/mSATA is enabled. I verfied this with a DELL approved WWAN card and it worked perfectly in that slot. After that, I took the WWAN card and align the notch in the middlle section and found that the pins on both cards are not align perfectly, The crucial mSATA's pins align with the spaces of the WWAN card. I connected the Crucial with a mSATA to SATA converter and then to m4700's eSATA port. Then BIOS detect the mSATA as m4 and windows read the firmware out no problem. So currently, I am thinking that ether DELL has a quality control problem or the slot is only be able used for certain type of card. I cannot verify this since DELL will not sell mSATA as a spare part. I checked with their sell and threre is no way to get a DELL approved mSATA card.
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November 20th, 2012 12:00
MAC II
Thank you very much for the help. I did talk to DELL this morning regarding the mSATA card. The lady told me they now only sell it when the system is ordered. I am considering exchange a different m4700 and try it.
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November 20th, 2012 13:00
Mac II / Ntest,
Just to let you know, after having another email chat with Dell support today, they have decided i have tried everything i can to get the Crucial Msata working.
They are meant to be sending an engineer out tomorrow to change the motherboard.:emotion-7:
Maybe they know they have an issue with the connections?, even if they do, i would have thought they will be all the same.
I don't realy want my 2 week old M4700 ripping apart,and i wondered if i was entitled to a new replacement.
I think they will say no, as i got it from the Dell outlet, so it was classed as a refurb, even though it looked unused.
It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow, i will let you all know if the new board solves the msata problem,
Dan
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November 21st, 2012 07:00
Dan,
Thanks for the information. Let us know how it goes. Look like they are going to replace my motherboard next week too.
dannysharp
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November 22nd, 2012 14:00
Ntest,
Well,
Dell came out as promised yesterday and replaced the Motherboard.
It made not a jot of difference!, MSATA still won't initialise in Windows, exactly same problem.
The engineer didn't have a clue what it could be.
Anyway, i exchanged several emails this morning with Dell support, and between us we came to the conclusion it could be 1 of 2 things:
1. The Crucial mSATA is NOT compatible with Dell M4700, despite what Crucial claim (have they actually tested it?)
2. Corrupt Windows install, and/or faulty primary HDD, which would maybe explain why my 4700 fails the Windows Performance Index test on Primary HDD, saying 'the parameters are incorrect'.
So, given these 2 options, we went with option 2.
As the Windows 7 Pro image is on the HDD partition, reinstalling it did nothing as all i would be doing was reinstalling a corrupt image.
Dell are now going to send me a NEW HDD and a Win 7 Pro dvd so i can boot from cdrom and do a clean install.
As BIOS see's my Crucial SSD no problems, i am going to remove the HDD and attempt to install the O/S to the 128GB SSD,
If that works, i will run the HDD as a slave storage drive.
So Ntest, i wouldn't bother with the new board if thats the only prob you have, it's more likely 1 of the 2 above probs?.
Fingers crossed for tomorrow then,
I will let you know what happens, as long as i don't throw the whole thing through the window!!,
Dan
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November 22nd, 2012 15:00
it sounds promising corrupted os image or inproper driver order install.....maybe thats why on my 3 m4700 that I installed a 256gb msata as a primary bootable drive I never expierienced the symptoms your desribe and are expieriencing........From the very first one I requested the os reinstallt discs from dell I did a clean install (no cloning) of os and manually load the correct drivers in the correct order . I hope you overcome your inmediate install prob...because once you get it right you won't be dissappointed ... mine outproferms my desktop .........m4700 is truely a real workhorse of a laptop .. just recently pruchased the "SLICE" as a extra battery option...... it adds a new dimension to portability well worth the additional cost.... MAC II
dannysharp
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November 23rd, 2012 14:00
Good news!!,
The clean install from the Windows DVD Dell delivered today went onto the msata drive straight away!
I then added the new 750gb sata Dell provided as a slave drive, i have just finished installing all the missing drivers onto my m4700.
It's now flying!, boots up from scratch in 15 seconds!.
So it looks like it was a driver thing afte rall. Maybe you just can't add an msata after the system has been fully configured in certain cases.
Dell take note.............as no one at Dell knew this would be the problem.
Anyway, thanks for the advice guys, hope my experience helps you all out with yours,
Dan
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November 24th, 2012 08:00
Dan,
Congradulation! Mine is slightly different. BIOS will not recognize the mSATA. DELL is scheduling to replace the motherboard on Monday. Hopefully, things will be ok after that.
ntest
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November 26th, 2012 11:00
Just let your guys know that DELL replaced the mother board in my m4700 and now Crucial is working for me happily now. thanks for all the help and suggestions.
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December 1st, 2012 01:00
Hi
I am having a similar problem with mSATA 256GB Drive from Crucial in my Dell Precision M6700 laptop. The same drive works perfectly in my Dell Precision M6600.
I am using BIOS A06 on both.
I have tried talking to Dell Technical Support for advice, but the idiot, after I explained what a mSATA was gave me a lecture on fitting non-approved parts despite offering an identical setup on new machines. Eventually, I dragged out of him that the latest BIOS is A06. Looking forward to the feedback form on that..
I am looking for some help in this matter, as I would like to use the mSATA as the boot and application drive. Free-ing the two 2.5" slots for 750GB Spindle drives.
Thanks
Chris
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December 1st, 2012 04:00
Hi
I have checked and I can confirm that the copper strips appear to be misaligned on the mSATA connector on the M6700 mother board. Hence my start-up problem.
Will demand new mother board
Alternatively, does any one know how to configure to wwan to act as a msata?
Thanks
Chris