I have my Refresh Rate set at 75hz because I play lots of games (And I still wish I had a CRT) That is the max refresh rate. What would happen if I set it to 85hz by disabling the setting that uses whatever the monitor says as the max resolution. How would my monitor be damaged?
17 inch LCD's have a native resolution and setting to anything else will not give you a better picture but the opposite. LCD's are unlike CRT's in that setting the refresh rate over 60 hz will also not give you a better picture and even might make things worse or hurt the monitor.
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I have my Refresh Rate
set at 75hz because I play lots of games (And I still wish I had a CRT) That is the max refresh rate. What would happen if I set it to 85hz by disabling the setting that uses whatever the monitor says as the max resolution. How would my monitor be damaged?
You are not getting it wheelyummer....LCD's do not need a high refresh rate, period...CRT's need to redraw the screen at 75 hz or higher in order to eliminate screen flicker, not to give you a better picture in a game. That is done by the video card. If you try something against the max refresh rate and cause a malfunction with the monitor, Dell will not warranty it, period. LCD's are always ON, and do not have to redraw the picture, because there is no redrawing to do. Setting the refresh rate to 60 hz or even 75 hz, that is suggested by the monitor, and driver you have is all you need, nothing else. Doing so does not improve anything in the games, and doing so, as the stated by the monitor manufacture could harm the monitor. I don't know the reason why quite frankly, but those are the rules.
The " E " for your monitor stands for economy, and is not the better monitor. You want a better game experience, and reducing the ghosting that you will see with the lower end LCD, than purchase a better Ultra bright monitor with a 12 ms response time instead of your 25 ms response time. You also do not have Digital, only analog, which does not give you the opportunity to have a clearer picture with DVI.
As stated in the link that I provided in one of my posts. " When dealing with LCDs, refresh rate is not much of a concern since they use a different technology to draw the image. Refresh rates as low as 40Hz or 60Hz are perfectly acceptable with LCD monitors. What is important is the concept of response time – the time in milliseconds it takes for the screen to update the pixel colors. This is a big deal because a slower response time will give the illusion of “ghosting” – the effect of pixels not updating with new information fast enough, so that a trail is left behind a moving object. This usually happens in high action movies or games and is one of the main reasons why LCDs are often not recommended for gamers. This is changing however, as displays with 20ms – which are just fine for gaming - are becoming more prevalent. "
I think I understand now. An individual pixel doesnt refresh at 70Hz if it stays the same color. But, on CRTs, every pixel refreshes no matter if it is staying the same color or not for the next frame. That's why if you film a CRT, you can see it refreshing. Is what I am understanding correct?
I think you are somewhat correct, but I'm not an expert. Just someone with a little knowledge to get me into trouble..On a CRT, the entire picture on the monitor is redrawn 70 times at 70 hz, and 60 times at 60 hz, and so on, and if its redraws slowly or at 60 hz, than you will see flicker on the screen. If your eyes are not that good, under 70 hz will give you eye strain, and a headache, because the screen will flicker. The LCD monitor never has to redraw or refresh the screen, because the LCD pixels are all on at the same time, no redrawing needed, and the Hz rating for LCD's are not that important.
What is important in any LCD, is the resolutions, response time, and whether you have digital ( DVI ) or analog, which is what you have now. For normal internet, word programs, e-mail, and still pictures, the analog video is just fine, but if you are a demanding gamer, and do not want ghosting, than the smaller response time the better. My LCD has a response time of 25 ms, and works well for me, but not others who want 12 ms or even less, so games look even better. CRT's have a better response time than LCD's, and some members will stick with the CRT for that reason.
I have to go now, and get a drink. This is getting beyond be....:smileyvery-happy:
I read on another website, and the reason that a LCD can have 60Hz and not flicker is because of something called persistance. On a CRT, the pixel goes from lit to off alot faster than a LCD. So, the pixel doesnt need to be updated very often, but if you want to play a game with lots of movement it has a motion blur.
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17 inch LCD's have a native resolution and setting to anything else will not give you a better picture but the opposite. LCD's are unlike CRT's in that setting the refresh rate over 60 hz will also not give you a better picture and even might make things worse or hurt the monitor.
http://news.designtechnica.com/print_featured_article6.html Monitor resolution information
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You are not getting it wheelyummer....LCD's do not need a high refresh rate, period...CRT's need to redraw the screen at 75 hz or higher in order to eliminate screen flicker, not to give you a better picture in a game. That is done by the video card. If you try something against the max refresh rate and cause a malfunction with the monitor, Dell will not warranty it, period. LCD's are always ON, and do not have to redraw the picture, because there is no redrawing to do. Setting the refresh rate to 60 hz or even 75 hz, that is suggested by the monitor, and driver you have is all you need, nothing else. Doing so does not improve anything in the games, and doing so, as the stated by the monitor manufacture could harm the monitor. I don't know the reason why quite frankly, but those are the rules.
The " E " for your monitor stands for economy, and is not the better monitor. You want a better game experience, and reducing the ghosting that you will see with the lower end LCD, than purchase a better Ultra bright monitor with a 12 ms response time instead of your 25 ms response time. You also do not have Digital, only analog, which does not give you the opportunity to have a clearer picture with DVI.
As stated in the link that I provided in one of my posts. " When dealing with LCDs, refresh rate is not much of a concern since they use a different technology to draw the image. Refresh rates as low as 40Hz or 60Hz are perfectly acceptable with LCD monitors. What is important is the concept of response time – the time in milliseconds it takes for the screen to update the pixel colors. This is a big deal because a slower response time will give the illusion of “ghosting” – the effect of pixels not updating with new information fast enough, so that a trail is left behind a moving object. This usually happens in high action movies or games and is one of the main reasons why LCDs are often not recommended for gamers. This is changing however, as displays with 20ms – which are just fine for gaming - are becoming more prevalent. "
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I think you are somewhat correct, but I'm not an expert. Just someone with a little knowledge to get me into trouble..On a CRT, the entire picture on the monitor is redrawn 70 times at 70 hz, and 60 times at 60 hz, and so on, and if its redraws slowly or at 60 hz, than you will see flicker on the screen. If your eyes are not that good, under 70 hz will give you eye strain, and a headache, because the screen will flicker. The LCD monitor never has to redraw or refresh the screen, because the LCD pixels are all on at the same time, no redrawing needed, and the Hz rating for LCD's are not that important.
What is important in any LCD, is the resolutions, response time, and whether you have digital ( DVI ) or analog, which is what you have now. For normal internet, word programs, e-mail, and still pictures, the analog video is just fine, but if you are a demanding gamer, and do not want ghosting, than the smaller response time the better. My LCD has a response time of 25 ms, and works well for me, but not others who want 12 ms or even less, so games look even better. CRT's have a better response time than LCD's, and some members will stick with the CRT for that reason.
I have to go now, and get a drink. This is getting beyond be....:smileyvery-happy:
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