Is there a way to put pressure on Dell in order to get an upgrade of BIOS A 11 that would allow to boot from USB? Can you give me an e-mail address where to complain?
Well. There are ferocious competitors outside like HP or IBM or Sony that may have a better behavior with old clients. I am buying Dell since ten years now but I may change my mind and my next laptop will not be a Dell.
If you buy a new Dell, you will be able to boot from USB. Do you think Ford will produce anti-lock brakes and air-bags for the model T ? Get my point.......
You don't need to buy a new notebook every 2 years. You NEVER had USB boot and NEVER needed it. If you want the newer technology then you need to buy a new computer. It's that simple and has ALWAYS been like that.
My laptop is two years and a half old. I paid it over 2000 $ and I consider that updating the BIOS is a minimum Dell has to do. Otherwise, the customer has to buy a new laptop from Dell every two years. I do not accept this kind of contempt and I shall no more buy from Dell;
I work in a University and my laptop belongs to the University. Therre are hundreds of other Dell laptop used by other University professors. I see that Dell is making fun of us. This is a new gadget to talk about "Old Technology" and "New Technology". Dell wants to make more money by forcing us to buy laptops every twio years instead of being honest and issuing new BIOS.
It's not only a BIOS limitation it IS a chipset limitation. The chipset in the i8200 does not and CAN NOT support USB booting. It wasn't until Intel put that option in there chipsets that it became available. So a new BIOS would NOT help. You need a notebook that supports USB booting at the chipset level.
Just to be clear on the matter, I do believe Dell initially was going to support USB booting from the BIOS, but never got around to implementing it. As far as what you said about the system board not supporting it, I didn't look into it, but I am telling all of you this as mere informational purposes. The same was true when they going to release the Radeon 9600 vcard for the i8200's as well but ended up not releasing it (there was a website that had a prerelease 9600 in a i8200). But instead the i8500 was introduced instead. (A garbage/filler release if you ask me).
Inspiron 8200 uses the Intel chipset 845 MP. Normally, the second chip should be the ICH4 (Intel Controller Hub) which supports USB2.
Unfortunately, in order to save few dollars, Dell installed as second chip the ICH2 that supports ONLY USB1.
Now, a BIOS update would be absurd. The USB1 transfers 150 KB/S and a 30 GB external drive necessary to have a clone of the main hard drive in case of failure, would be copied back in three days to be compared to 6 --8 hours to reinstall Windows from scratch plus all programs.
This explain why Dell will never produce the BIOS update to allow booting from USB.
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Is there a way to put pressure on Dell in order to get an upgrade of BIOS A 11 that would allow to boot from USB? Can you give me an e-mail address where to complain?
Thank you,
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Well. There are ferocious competitors outside like HP or IBM or Sony that may have a better behavior with old clients. I am buying Dell since ten years now but I may change my mind and my next laptop will not be a Dell.
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Hi,
If you buy a new Dell, you will be able to boot from USB. Do you think Ford will produce anti-lock brakes and air-bags for the model T ? Get my point.......
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My laptop is two years and a half old. I paid it over 2000 $ and I consider that updating the BIOS is a minimum Dell has to do. Otherwise, the customer has to buy a new laptop from Dell every two years. I do not accept this kind of contempt and I shall no more buy from Dell;
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I do not want a new technology. I want a new BIOS.
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I am sorry. I am trying to understand what you wrote.
BIOS upgrade would not be sufficient to allow external hard drive USB boot, one has also to upgrade the hardware on the motherboard.
Is this what you mean?
Thank you for your help,
Daniel Bessis
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Hi,
Maybe Santa will give you a new Bios. You could even boot and load a USB driver from DOS with a floppy. ( it works on my computer )
Regards Chris
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I work in a University and my laptop belongs to the University. Therre are hundreds of other Dell laptop used by other University professors. I see that Dell is making fun of us. This is a new gadget to talk about "Old Technology" and "New Technology". Dell wants to make more money by forcing us to buy laptops every twio years instead of being honest and issuing new BIOS.
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It's not only a BIOS limitation it IS a chipset limitation. The chipset in the i8200 does not and CAN NOT support USB booting. It wasn't until Intel put that option in there chipsets that it became available. So a new BIOS would NOT help. You need a notebook that supports USB booting at the chipset level.
HAVE WE BEEN CLEAR ENOUGH NOW.
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Inspiron 8200 uses the Intel chipset 845 MP. Normally, the second chip should be the ICH4 (Intel Controller Hub) which supports USB2.
Unfortunately, in order to save few dollars, Dell installed as second chip the ICH2 that supports ONLY USB1.
Now, a BIOS update would be absurd. The USB1 transfers 150 KB/S and a 30 GB external drive necessary to have a clone of the main hard drive in case of failure, would be copied back in three days to be compared to 6 --8 hours to reinstall Windows from scratch plus all programs.
This explain why Dell will never produce the BIOS update to allow booting from USB.
I hope this helps.
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