up here is a link to a picture of display at 1600X1050 , 125% font size , but the text is crystal clear , picutre with no flash of a LCD is difficult !
FYI, the screen is blurry while booting up and in the BIOS because the screen is running at a low resolution. Anytime you run an LCD at a resolution other than it's default you'll get blurry images. EVERY computer defaults to a low resolution while booting up/BIOS so this isn't going to change anytime soon.
just want to say that the update video bios does fixe the blury issue while booting and in dos mode display . So everibody should update to bios A02 , and not forget the VIDEO bios to , both are avalaible on windows update mode , so floppy is not needed anymore !
to get black border, go display property >setting > advanced > geforces FX565o tab >side windows > flat monitor > chek use fixe scaling ratio
ghost recon is excellent , run min 30 fps at high action at highest display , display go up to 1600X1050 and should bet set like this to avoid blury image , and both cpu and gpu handle these setting easy !
medal of honor is great ! run around 50 fps , you can also adjust the display property on command console to get optimise 16X10 aspect ratio ( open dialog box , type "fov 110" fov= field of view
soldier of fortune 1 is also great , 60 fps in 1280 display ( same with SOF2 )
flight simulator 2002 is good to , 30 fps in high flying action ,have to verify display resolution (cut and past prog from my desktop and work instantly )
RAVEN SHIELD ( rainbow six ) is also excellent , + unreal DEMO 2003 + GTA vice city ....
forgot to mention about heat : very good cooling yet , easy to stay on your lap , palm rest is just little warm , nothing to complain .
after 5 days of use , gaming , video,web...... no freeze at all
want to keep it original OS , so have made a second partion without format with partition magic 7 , work realy good (8+32 gig )
DIVx full screen is great , sound is good for a laptop . have conect headphone output to car stereo via tape adaptor , and sound is good to. ( gaming while my girl friend is driving hey hey ! )
sound recorder works good , out of box , with mic input , also with DELL hided microphone ! yea , there is a microphone built in , never heard about it ?
56k modem connection work good too,out of box , with new connection wizard from XP
the WSXGA display is the best display for me , the resolution is optimal , and all lower resolution are blury , so think about it twice before ordering WUXGA , because if your run it in lower resoution , everything will not be clear .
have tried wireless intel 2100 with my Linksys WRT54G , work really good , exept initial conneciton ( while boot up ) wich take few secondes to conect .
forgot to mention about heat : very good cooling yet , easy to stay on your lap , palm rest is just little warm , nothing to complain .
the WSXGA display is the best display for me , the resolution is optimal , and all lower resolution are blury , so think about it twice before ordering WUXGA , because if your run it in lower resoution , everything will not be clear .
no, no, you're mistaken there, it won't be blurry bc the lower resolution will be the screen's native resolution so all will be well and clear at that
by lower resolution , i meen ones offer on my screen , so if you got wsxga and lower than 1600X1050 , it will be blury , and i saw people said the samething about wuxga with lower than native resolution .
like i mention on first post , all tweaking to get icon and texte bigger cause other problem , so have to stay wint native LCD resolution.
thanks for sharing your experiences with us. I am about to buy a i8600 and getting first hand information is always a good chance to know more than the press information offers. So again good job and keep on posting.
now i know why people complain about litle suspect noise ! , the 8600 is so quiet , that any other noise is noticable like HD and video card clock frequency increase !
man ! this is a stealth machine compare to my AMD desktop
i just try the diagnostic bootup (F12 ) and its very nice , use seperate partition on HD , so your able to use it if OS doesnt boot ! another reason not to format ,and leave the dell small fat partition ( only 60 meg )
--32MB video card with hardware T&L (128MB recommended) -----2 GB free hard drive space
--New Unreal engine cranks out terrific graphics
the game install itself with our native resolution ready to be chosen
this is the most demanding apps i have installed yet , i run it in full resolution ( native wsxga 1600X1050 ) and all detail at high , also run fraps in background to monitor fps and result is between 18 and 30 , yea 18 ! thats append in high action with other team action in same time (raven work in team mode as a backup ) . but regardless of fps the video was still fluid , no freeze , no waiting , it just seem that game limit you not to run to keep it fluid ( this is no arcade mode game anyway )
--32MB video card with hardware T&L (128MB recommended) -----2 GB free hard drive space
--New Unreal engine cranks out terrific graphics
the game install itself with our native resolution ready to be chosen
this is the most demanding apps i have installed yet , i run it in full resolution ( native wsxga 1600X1050 ) and all detail at high , also run fraps in background to monitor fps and result is between 18 and 30 , yea 18 ! thats append in high action with other team action in same time (raven work in team mode as a backup ) . but regardless of fps the video was still fluid , no freeze , no waiting , it just seem that game limit you not to run to keep it fluid ( this is no arcade mode game anyway )
Message Edited by ggtronic on 10-17-2003 09:28 AM
What notebook were you using? I get about the same fps with my Geforce 4 460.
The graphics are very nice.
this tread is call "i8600 receive " , and i forget to add model in my signature , sorry
what game are we talking about ? and what specifiq fps ? in wich machine you got ?
have you try raven shield ?
your toshiba seem a good machine , no doubth it will play game fine ! , you probably have a 400:1 contrast display with 25 ms response , thats what i like the most in your tosh !
Hooo , i forget to talk about my inspiron hard drive , 40 gig , 4200 rpm , its fast enouph for me since i dont wait more then my desktop , wich as a 7200 rpm western digital 8 meg buffer , so i'm happy to save many $ ( 250 canadian ) for those few seconds waiting compare to 60 gig 7200 rpm ( was personnaly tight on laptop budget )
this tread is call "i8600 receive " , and i forget to add model in my signature , sorry
what game are we talking about ? and what specifiq fps ? in wich machine you got ?
have you try raven shield ?
your toshiba seem a good machine , no doubth it will play game fine ! , you probably have a 400:1 contrast display with 25 ms response , thats what i like the most in your tosh !
Hooo , i forget to talk about my inspiron hard drive , 40 gig , 4200 rpm , its fast enouph for me since i dont wait more then my desktop , wich as a 7200 rpm western digital 8 meg buffer , so i'm happy to save many $ ( 250 canadian ) for those few seconds waiting compare to 60 gig 7200 rpm ( was personnaly tight on laptop budget )
...just wanted to make sure. I thought there would be more of a discrepancy between the 460 and the FX cards. Raven shield is the game I was referring to. Settings were 1600X1200 and all textures high. Framerate was around 20-25 most of the time. I'm just downloading the Halo Demo...going to check it out immediately! I'll probably have to drop the textures a bit!
well seem that both our machine play it well , 18 fps was in fact my lowest observation to be really objective , and it run like 25-30 in general in raven shield. Only difference will be your crystal clear display , and my longuer shot on battery power ? the 8600 is actually little better than my desktop ;AMD athlon 1700 with ati 7200 32 meg ! so who said that laptop are slow !
halo demo ?, i'm dont know yet tell me more .... get me a link and full game name ? thanks
will also try unreal 2003 demo , just to verify performance , dont like arcade mode fps so much ! more likely real environement , like medal of honor . will have to meet in raven shield lobby soon ?
ggtronic
219 Posts
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October 10th, 2003 17:00
http://membres.lycos.fr/ggtronic/DELL/wsxga.jpg
up here is a link to a picture of display at 1600X1050 , 125% font size , but the text is crystal clear , picutre with no flash of a LCD is difficult !
Message Edited by ggtronic on 12-30-2004 04:01 PM
duffyanneal
59 Posts
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October 11th, 2003 13:00
FYI, the screen is blurry while booting up and in the BIOS because the screen is running at a low resolution. Anytime you run an LCD at a resolution other than it's default you'll get blurry images. EVERY computer defaults to a low resolution while booting up/BIOS so this isn't going to change anytime soon.
kwest2
123 Posts
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October 11th, 2003 14:00
ggtronic
219 Posts
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October 11th, 2003 15:00
just want to say that the update video bios does fixe the blury issue while booting and in dos mode display . So everibody should update to bios A02 , and not forget the VIDEO bios to , both are avalaible on windows update mode , so floppy is not needed anymore !
to get black border, go display property >setting > advanced > geforces FX565o tab >side windows > flat monitor > chek use fixe scaling ratio
ghost recon is excellent , run min 30 fps at high action at highest display , display go up to 1600X1050 and should bet set like this to avoid blury image , and both cpu and gpu handle these setting easy !
medal of honor is great ! run around 50 fps , you can also adjust the display property on command console to get optimise 16X10 aspect ratio ( open dialog box , type "fov 110" fov= field of view
soldier of fortune 1 is also great , 60 fps in 1280 display ( same with SOF2 )
flight simulator 2002 is good to , 30 fps in high flying action ,have to verify display resolution (cut and past prog from my desktop and work instantly )
RAVEN SHIELD ( rainbow six ) is also excellent , + unreal DEMO 2003 + GTA vice city ....
Message Edited by ggtronic on 02-11-2004 07:39 AM
ggtronic
219 Posts
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October 14th, 2003 01:00
forgot to mention about heat : very good cooling yet , easy to stay on your lap , palm rest is just little warm , nothing to complain .
after 5 days of use , gaming , video,web...... no freeze at all
want to keep it original OS , so have made a second partion without format with partition magic 7 , work realy good (8+32 gig )
DIVx full screen is great , sound is good for a laptop . have conect headphone output to car stereo via tape adaptor , and sound is good to. ( gaming while my girl friend is driving hey hey ! )
sound recorder works good , out of box , with mic input , also with DELL hided microphone ! yea , there is a microphone built in , never heard about it ?
56k modem connection work good too,out of box , with new connection wizard from XP
the WSXGA display is the best display for me , the resolution is optimal , and all lower resolution are blury , so think about it twice before ordering WUXGA , because if your run it in lower resoution , everything will not be clear .
have tried wireless intel 2100 with my Linksys WRT54G , work really good , exept initial conneciton ( while boot up ) wich take few secondes to conect .
Message Edited by ggtronic on 02-11-2004 07:42 AM
CSmith06
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October 14th, 2003 02:00
no, no, you're mistaken there, it won't be blurry bc the lower resolution will be the screen's native resolution so all will be well and clear at that
ggtronic
219 Posts
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October 14th, 2003 04:00
by lower resolution , i meen ones offer on my screen , so if you got wsxga and lower than 1600X1050 , it will be blury , and i saw people said the samething about wuxga with lower than native resolution .
like i mention on first post , all tweaking to get icon and texte bigger cause other problem , so have to stay wint native LCD resolution.
Message Edited by ggtronic on 02-11-2004 07:45 AM
ggtronic
219 Posts
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October 15th, 2003 07:00
LCD : important tweak to do if you want to have optimize color
before the tweak , there was almost no difference between white and yellow ( like this site post it )
go to your display property > advanced > geforce FX 5650 tab > color correction
you can change the setting and observe result immediately
its a MUST !
Kyle Reese
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October 15th, 2003 07:00
Hey ggtronic,
thanks for sharing your experiences with us. I am about to buy a i8600 and getting first hand information is always a good chance to know more than the press information offers. So again good job and keep on posting.
Greetings,
Kyle.
ggtronic
219 Posts
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October 16th, 2003 13:00
thanks kyle
now i know why people complain about litle suspect noise ! , the 8600 is so quiet , that any other noise is noticable like HD and video card clock frequency increase !
man ! this is a stealth machine compare to my AMD desktop
i just try the diagnostic bootup (F12 ) and its very nice , use seperate partition on HD , so your able to use it if OS doesnt boot ! another reason not to format ,and leave the dell small fat partition ( only 60 meg )
Message Edited by ggtronic on 10-16-2003 02:26 PM
ggtronic
219 Posts
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October 17th, 2003 13:00
other result
look like this been read alot ! (740 viewed oct 17 ) thanks , hope its help , since i pretend to be totaly objective in my review
just installed RAVEN SHIELD with this recommended system ; http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006GSNY/002-1038277-7715245?v=glance
800 MHz processor (1.4 GHz recommended)
-----2 GB free hard drive space
this is the most demanding apps i have installed yet , i run it in full resolution ( native wsxga 1600X1050 ) and all detail at high
, also run fraps in background to monitor fps and result is between 18 and 30 , yea 18 ! thats append in high action with other team action in same time (raven work in team mode as a backup ) . but regardless of fps the video was still fluid , no freeze , no waiting , it just seem that game limit you not to run to keep it fluid ( this is no arcade mode game anyway )
Message Edited by ggtronic on 10-17-2003 09:28 AM
RandyB
518 Posts
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October 18th, 2003 12:00
What notebook were you using? I get about the same fps with my Geforce 4 460.
ggtronic
219 Posts
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October 18th, 2003 16:00
hi randyB
this tread is call "i8600 receive " , and i forget to add model in my signature , sorry
what game are we talking about ? and what specifiq fps ? in wich machine you got ?
have you try raven shield ?
your toshiba seem a good machine , no doubth it will play game fine ! , you probably have a 400:1 contrast display with 25 ms response , thats what i like the most in your tosh !
Hooo , i forget to talk about my inspiron hard drive , 40 gig , 4200 rpm , its fast enouph for me since i dont wait more then my desktop , wich as a 7200 rpm western digital 8 meg buffer , so i'm happy to save many $ ( 250 canadian ) for those few seconds waiting compare to 60 gig 7200 rpm ( was personnaly tight on laptop budget )
RandyB
518 Posts
0
October 18th, 2003 21:00
...just wanted to make sure. I thought there would be more of a discrepancy between the 460 and the FX cards. Raven shield is the game I was referring to. Settings were 1600X1200 and all textures high. Framerate was around 20-25 most of the time. I'm just downloading the Halo Demo...going to check it out immediately! I'll probably have to drop the textures a bit!
ggtronic
219 Posts
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October 19th, 2003 00:00
well seem that both our machine play it well , 18 fps was in fact my lowest observation to be really objective , and it run like 25-30 in general in raven shield. Only difference will be your crystal clear display , and my longuer shot on battery power ? the 8600 is actually little better than my desktop ;AMD athlon 1700 with ati 7200 32 meg ! so who said that laptop are slow !
halo demo ?, i'm dont know yet tell me more .... get me a link and full game name ? thanks
will also try unreal 2003 demo , just to verify performance , dont like arcade mode fps so much ! more likely real environement , like medal of honor . will have to meet in raven shield lobby soon ?
Message Edited by ggtronic on 10-18-2003 08:18 PM