I would like to tell you that S- Video TV-out is a 7-pin mini-DIN connector (optional S-video to composite video adapter cable; optional S-video to component video adapter cable).
Thought I'd do a quick search of the forum before I post my question - found it exactly here.
I bought my 9400 notebook with the purpose of it doubling as a media player so I could watch my nice HiDef films on my new HDTV. Like in the original question, the manual for the 9400 says you can get this cable/adapter but I have not yet found it despite many Google searches and a call to a main Dell parts supplier in the UK.
The Manual (Owners Guide i think) on page 67 calls it :
Component Video and S/PDIF Digital Audio Adapter
One of these would be perfect !
Can someone please give a Dell part number for it or even a link to an online shop (in the UK would be good).
Please remember, this is Component video not Composite video, as composite video will not take hidef output.
Thanks for the reply, but before you throw so many exclamation points into a post, can I ask that you read it first !!!!!!!
Do you really think I would not have tried a simple Google search ?
COMPONENT video is not COMPOSITE video.
The cable you gave connects into the TV-OUT connection and provides S-Video (2 wire signal, intensity and colour) output and COMPOSITE output (where the whole video signal is put down a single wire.
COMPONENT is where the video is sent down 2 wires (basically Red, Blue, Green) and a sync signal is required (sometimes on another wire, but sometimes carried in the green signal so you get sync-on-green).
The 9400 maual shows 2 adapters - a Composite one like you say (page 63) and the one I'm trying to find, a COMPONENT one (page 67). It shows an adapter with the 3 RGB connections on it and an extra one fr the Digital Audio.
S-Video and Composite video can hold a normal Low-Def signal fine, but you need Component (or HDMI/DVI) to handle HiDef signals.
I really do appreciate your efforts, but this is not what I need (or probably the original person who started the thread).
The ATI adapter you linked to is notorious for only working with certain ATI cards and nothing else (not Geforce or anything). Besides all of this, if you have a look at the adapter, it is a DVI-I version of DVI (carries the analogue RGB signal in the 4 pins around the horizontal large-wide pin). The 9400 only has a DVI-D DVI connector without these pins. Therefore it doesn't have RGB output, only pure digital to drive External monitors and so on.
I'm not going to buy the 17 Euro meda kit when it doesn't give me what I need. It's the wrong kit. It doesn't give component out just composite and s-video. The highest resolution you can have with either of these 2 is 480p.
SCART is also not made for HDTV quality. Besides, to hook up the 9400 I could only use the standard s-video link (which puts the SCART connection in S-Video mode) as I have yet to find the Component adapter that I seek. I might as well have just used S-video
By definition, Component video (RGB) can cope with signals up to 1080p. The 9400 manual on page 67 shows this adapter which allows a component output. All I want to know is where I can get this adapter ? I must exist for someone to have issustrated it in the manual and for Dell to write a section on connecting your computer to a TV using "Component Video and S/PDIF Digital Audio" on .. you guessed it.... page 67 of the Owners Manual
You can buy the kit from Dell, why not? It is 17€...
In my opinion you should use A DVI to HDMI converter for max vid quality. With Component (in Italy we call SCART) you can obtain the same quality as a composite cable.
For HDTV quality (greater than 720*576... at least 720p and better 1020p) you must use your DVI output.
It's got all the right connectors but since it's specific to only about 5% of ATI's graphics cards, I very much doubt that it will happen to work with the Dell 9400 on-board TV-OUT connector, especially as it has Intel 950 graphics with an optional 7800 card. I'm sure I read somewhere that all these ATI adapters require driver functionality to enable them. They switch firmware modes on the card to dictate what signal is sent where and in what format.
Now the Dell version of the above cable is what I need.... you know... the one on page 67 of the Owners guide :smileywink:
I really do appreciate your efforts, but this is not what I need (or probably the original person who started the thread).
The ATI adapter you linked to is notorious for only working with certain ATI cards and nothing else (not Geforce or anything). Besides all of this, if you have a look at the adapter, it is a DVI-I version of DVI (carries the analogue RGB signal in the 4 pins around the horizontal large-wide pin). The 9400 only has a DVI-D DVI connector without these pins. Therefore it doesn't have RGB output, only pure digital to drive External monitors and so on.
I'm not going to buy the 17 Euro meda kit when it doesn't give me what I need. It's the wrong kit. It doesn't give component out just composite and s-video. The highest resolution you can have with either of these 2 is 480p.
SCART is also not made for HDTV quality. Besides, to hook up the 9400 I could only use the standard s-video link (which puts the SCART connection in S-Video mode) as I have yet to find the Component adapter that I seek. I might as well have just used S-video
By definition, Component video (RGB) can cope with signals up to 1080p. The 9400 manual on page 67 shows this adapter which allows a component output. All I want to know is where I can get this adapter ? I must exist for someone to have issustrated it in the manual and for Dell to write a section on connecting your computer to a TV using "Component Video and S/PDIF Digital Audio" on .. you guessed it.... page 67 of the Owners Manual
Thanks
I don't have my 1705 or my manual with me at the moment, but:
If I recall correctly, doesn't the 1705 also have a DB15 VGA output in addition to the DVI-D? If so, you could get a VGA to component transcoder.
As to whether Dell offers something, I'll need to see if my manual mentions it at all tonight.
yep - you can convert to RGB from a 15 pin VGA. In fact my TV has a VGA input (but only supports 4:3 inputs like 1024x768 even though it's a 16:9 TV. I could get a cable like you mentioned, but if I was to go that route I probably might as well just send the video through the DVI port. I'm just worried about getting the video out of one port, the digital audio out of another (the TV-OUT is the only place I think) and then getting the whole lot setup in XP (or Media Center) to use these different ports. I can see myself spending a small fortune on various cables that don't do what I need.
The solution in the user guide is perfect I think - all required outputs available on one adapter which should make the final configuration (screen res/audio) much more likley.
If you are interested, have a look at the E1705/9400 Owners Manual :
I've been looking for the component adapter for the e1705 for weeks now.
Dell has no idea what it even is let alone have it in stock.
I finally broke down and got an S-Video to S-Video/S/PDIF/RCA adapter off of ebay and it works great. Unfortunately it doesn't do the component video. It'll make due until I can find the component video adapter instead.
Weird thing is that there is "DELL" plastered all over the insert in the bag with the cable yet NONE of the people at Dell Accessories or Dell Parts could even find that the part existed. I was on the phone with them for around 3-4 hours with them trying to find the part.
Still trying to find the component adapter though.
Keskar
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February 14th, 2006 08:00
Hi,
I would like to tell you that S- Video TV-out is a 7-pin mini-DIN connector (optional S-video to composite video adapter cable; optional S-video to component video adapter cable).
Bye
Keskar
GabMarini
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February 21st, 2006 06:00
capelink
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May 13th, 2006 17:00
Message Edited by capelink on 05-13-200607:28 PM
GabMarini
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May 15th, 2006 07:00
capelink
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May 15th, 2006 08:00
Thanks for the reply.
If it's so easy to find, can you please post a link to one on any Web site ?
Many thanks
GabMarini
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May 15th, 2006 09:00
capelink
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May 15th, 2006 09:00
Thanks for the reply, but before you throw so many exclamation points into a post, can I ask that you read it first !!!!!!!
Do you really think I would not have tried a simple Google search ?
COMPONENT video is not COMPOSITE video.
The cable you gave connects into the TV-OUT connection and provides S-Video (2 wire signal, intensity and colour) output and COMPOSITE output (where the whole video signal is put down a single wire.
COMPONENT is where the video is sent down 2 wires (basically Red, Blue, Green) and a sync signal is required (sometimes on another wire, but sometimes carried in the green signal so you get sync-on-green).
The 9400 maual shows 2 adapters - a Composite one like you say (page 63) and the one I'm trying to find, a COMPONENT one (page 67). It shows an adapter with the 3 RGB connections on it and an extra one fr the Digital Audio.
S-Video and Composite video can hold a normal Low-Def signal fine, but you need Component (or HDMI/DVI) to handle HiDef signals.
Thanks
capelink
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May 15th, 2006 09:00
I really do appreciate your efforts, but this is not what I need (or probably the original person who started the thread).
The ATI adapter you linked to is notorious for only working with certain ATI cards and nothing else (not Geforce or anything). Besides all of this, if you have a look at the adapter, it is a DVI-I version of DVI (carries the analogue RGB signal in the 4 pins around the horizontal large-wide pin). The 9400 only has a DVI-D DVI connector without these pins. Therefore it doesn't have RGB output, only pure digital to drive External monitors and so on.
I'm not going to buy the 17 Euro meda kit when it doesn't give me what I need. It's the wrong kit. It doesn't give component out just composite and s-video. The highest resolution you can have with either of these 2 is 480p.
SCART is also not made for HDTV quality. Besides, to hook up the 9400 I could only use the standard s-video link (which puts the SCART connection in S-Video mode) as I have yet to find the Component adapter that I seek. I might as well have just used S-video
By definition, Component video (RGB) can cope with signals up to 1080p. The 9400 manual on page 67 shows this adapter which allows a component output. All I want to know is where I can get this adapter ? I must exist for someone to have issustrated it in the manual and for Dell to write a section on connecting your computer to a TV using "Component Video and S/PDIF Digital Audio" on .. you guessed it.... page 67 of the Owners Manual
Thanks
GabMarini
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May 15th, 2006 09:00
This the second result from google search "s-video to component adapter".
http://www.svideo.com/hdtvaiwr8500.html
Do you need something like this?!?!?!?!
This is the 3rd result:
http://www.bizrate.com/audiovideocables_adapters/cable_type--s_video/products__att278366--852-__keyword--component%20adapter.html
Message Edited by GabMarini on 05-15-200612:47 PM
GabMarini
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May 15th, 2006 09:00
You can buy the kit from Dell, why not? It is 17€...
In my opinion you should use A DVI to HDMI converter for max vid quality. With Component (in Italy we call SCART) you can obtain the same quality as a composite cable.
For HDTV quality (greater than 720*576... at least 720p and better 1020p) you must use your DVI output.
GabMarini
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May 15th, 2006 09:00
The research is so simple!!!! Try this in google "multimedia video cable dell".
The 3rd result from google is
If you want to watch HDTV video (using HDMI interface ) you must use a DVI to HDMI converter.
The multimedia cable from Dell or other brand allow you to use SPDIF (audio) ouptut, and RCA/Component (video) output.
capelink
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May 15th, 2006 10:00
I recon something like this is what I'm looking for :
http://www.svideo.com/97009800hdtv.html
It's got all the right connectors but since it's specific to only about 5% of ATI's graphics cards, I very much doubt that it will happen to work with the Dell 9400 on-board TV-OUT connector, especially as it has Intel 950 graphics with an optional 7800 card. I'm sure I read somewhere that all these ATI adapters require driver functionality to enable them. They switch firmware modes on the card to dictate what signal is sent where and in what format.
Now the Dell version of the above cable is what I need.... you know... the one on page 67 of the Owners guide :smileywink:
Entropy42
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May 15th, 2006 12:00
I don't have my 1705 or my manual with me at the moment, but:
If I recall correctly, doesn't the 1705 also have a DB15 VGA output in addition to the DVI-D? If so, you could get a VGA to component transcoder.
As to whether Dell offers something, I'll need to see if my manual mentions it at all tonight.
capelink
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May 15th, 2006 13:00
enfiniti
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May 16th, 2006 16:00
Dell has no idea what it even is let alone have it in stock.
I finally broke down and got an S-Video to S-Video/S/PDIF/RCA adapter off of ebay and it works great. Unfortunately it doesn't do the component video. It'll make due until I can find the component video adapter instead.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Dell-DSUB-Notebook-TV-Out-Adapter-S-Video-8600-1000_W0QQitemZ6881546126QQcategoryZ51151QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
Thats the adapter that I got.
Weird thing is that there is "DELL" plastered all over the insert in the bag with the cable yet NONE of the people at Dell Accessories or Dell Parts could even find that the part existed. I was on the phone with them for around 3-4 hours with them trying to find the part.
Still trying to find the component adapter though.