No one I know uses SCSI anymore . My internal 7200 rpm hard drive connected thru IDE is nice and fast and my three external hard drives that connect thru a firewire card are nice and fast too for recording to and rolling off tape from or burning DVDs from. :-)
I M A PROFESSIONAL VIDEO EDITOR DOING VIDEO EDITING ON A DELL LAPTOP !
I just bought the Dell Precision M60 Laptop for Video Editing , and I have to say that its perfect .
Its expensive but it works great , its nice to burn your Film on a DVD if you are in a Hotel Room .
Its nice to have the chance to do Video Editing on a Airplane or around the world .
I work with Avid and Liquid Edition on the M60 it works very stable .
My M60 is with 1,70 Ghz 1024MB 60GB 7200 Harddrive 4x DVD Burner and WUXGA Display .
I would buy a Laptop with Centrino (pentium M ) because you can work with 1 Battery about 3 Hours on Video editing , and about 4:30 if you do something with not so much power .I have 2 Batteries .
And the Centrino (pentium M ) have enough power for Video Editing , I have one hear and I work for a big Film Company .
You should take a WUXGA Display so you have more space for the Timeline .
Ask me if you have more questions !
Best
Duke
Message Edited by aronspell on 12-27-2003 06:47 PM
This is where I'm coming from...if you plan on using a high quality editor anytime soon, then the I5150 or a computer with the equal processing capabilities will be your best bet because of it's raw processing power. I'm using Adobe Premiere Pro. and it's not that hot on my Inspiron, but it's more than bareable.
If you're doing home editing style stuff mainly and not buying this computer as a video editing machine, meaning that it's main task will not be video editing, then I think that the Inspiron 8600 will suite you best. If you are going for a video editing machine whose main task is to edit and render video as quickly and smoothly as possible, then go with the Inspiron 5150.
I have two 73gb 10K SCSI U320's in my Dell Poweredge 1600SC server, they are the fastest hard drives I have in the house, and would be excellent to do some editing with, as they outperform any IDE 7200 HD. Now only if my desktop had a SCSI card....
ok, i have mobile pentium 4 3.06 ghz 533 fsb, 1 gig of ram, 4200 rpm hd (not so good), and won't mention graphics cause it doesn't matter. does anyone know if you can get good quality from this computer? maybe a faster hd? and another note, no one answered my question about why alienware's roswell computer that is labeled under "professional - digital video editing systems" comes with 1000 dollar optional upgrade card. and this computer is labled for VIDEO EDITING. sorry for the caps but everyone thought i said GAMING. please, someone help me.
I have been doing digital video editing for several years and have used several different systems. I currently run an Inspiron 5150 with 512mb ram and a 7200rpm 60gig hdd. I capture video via firewire from my sony handycam. I have several editing software packages, including Adobe Premier. All seem to work very well. Using my 4x dvd burner I can burn DVD's that are of excellent quality. I think the Inspiron 5150 when it is fully loaded is a good machine to edit videos, especially since it adds mobility. If you are going to make the mistake of getting a dell, I would recommend this system.
Alienware machines are top of the line gaming computer systems. I think many gamers build their own pcs, and Alienware is a good (although expensive) alternative to building your own pc since it generally uses high quality parts that gamers would choose anyways. I believe they might have set that system up as a gaming system with an emphasis on video editing and probably includes a high performance graphics card to run graphics intense games. As it has been discussed - a graphics card would not effect the quality of your video. Since, if you capture video via firewire, it is written onto your hard drive by your capture software. All editing will be done by manipulating that file and other captured and rendered files. Then, the processor would render the arranged clips into a movie. This is a proccess generally not requiring a top of the line graphics card - but accelerated by fast proccesors, abundant memory, a fast system bus, and quick and extensive disk space. The graphics card should only effect the output on your computer screen - not the quality of video that the computer produces.
So, I would imagine you could get fairly good quality as long as you can capture fine with high quality settings (probably at 720x480 pixels at 29.9fps), run the video editing programs with all the clips loaded. You might have to wait a little longer than those with a faster hard drive.
Hopefully, this helps.
Message Edited by getsomethingelse on 12-29-2003 01:12 AM
thanks, i think i see why the quality isn't as good. cause my friend's computer probably displays it nicer than mines. a lot nicer. wait, now that i think about, i remember asking my friend to send one of the clips he captured, and i think the clip looked worser on my laptop than when i saw it on his desktop. i wonder why i never picked up on that immediately when i watched the clip. LOL, mistake of getting a dell, get a....., why do i feel exactly like that? hehe
I use Premiere 6.0 with no problems on my 8500. I capture via the firewire socket onto an external 7200rpm hard drive (Seagate Barracuda IV in a case with USB2 connection). I then transfer what I need into the laptop to edit. I export the finished stuff back to the hard drive or my DVD burner (Pioneer 106 in an external case).
Obviously I need the external components at either end of the process but can edit quite happily away from home.
Have never tried captures direct to my (permanently nearly full ) laptop HDD but I can capture an hour at once with no frame loss onto the external drive.
I've been using vegas video 4.0 for awhile now on my notebook and it runs like a charm :) your 8600 should be perfectly fine for editing using premiere. Though I don't personally like premiere because u can't compress the sound files to mp3 which results in very large file sizes :-\
Don't wast your money on a 7200rpm drive! Get what you need to run your progrmas on...4200 is fine unless you want a slightly faster boot time!!! Then buy an external firewire or USB hard drive to off load the DV to. When capturing video is more important to capture to a DIFFERENT drive to avoiddropped frames and "traffic' issues with IDE. Unless you are planing to edit 1/2 hour sitcoms 512 of fast memory should be fine. I captured and editied 4 minuite video years ago on a PII 433 Toshiba laptop using Pinnicle 6 or 7. Except for the rendering times( which were HUGE) The capture was fine!
I've been capturing and editing DV with limited hardware for sometime. Currently I'm running on a 8600 with a 30MB drive and 256MB memory. A 4600rpm ide disk is fine for capture. However, if your using the system disk you should be sure to have a lot of spare room. You need to defragment the disk often and don't leave any big files(video) lying around.
If you plan on doing a lot of transitions and video effect you need the fastest cpu you can afford or plan to be waiting a long time to complete your movies(hours!). The more memory you can afford the better. My main system a desktop has 1.5GB of memory and lots of fast disk. The fast disks were for the days I was doing analog capture. Far more demanding. SCSI is for Analog these days.
To use a laptop best keep you clips short and don't plan on a lot of large movies. If you plan on creating a lot of MPEG2 (DVD's) plan on you laptop to be busy or a long long time.
I have ordered a I8600 and I also want to use it for Video Editing. I just want to confirm that the Firewire port is a Mini 4pin before I buy a 4pin to 4pin cable (my Sony Camcorder has a DV Out i-link 4pin port)
If seems that lots of Laptops come with a 6pin Firewire port and Dell don't acutally state the Inspiron 8600 comes with a 4pin (just says a firewire IEEE1394 port) so hence it can be a bit confusing it you a bit new to this.
Basically all you need is the Laptop, Camera and a cable to start capturing digital video, once you are happy with the outout you can burn it to DVD and thats it!
Jim_Gunn
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December 27th, 2003 21:00
malfunktion:
No one I know uses SCSI anymore . My internal 7200 rpm hard drive connected thru IDE is nice and fast and my three external hard drives that connect thru a firewire card are nice and fast too for recording to and rolling off tape from or burning DVDs from. :-)
aronspell
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December 27th, 2003 22:00
Hello
I M A PROFESSIONAL VIDEO EDITOR DOING VIDEO EDITING ON A DELL LAPTOP !
I just bought the Dell Precision M60 Laptop for Video Editing , and I have to say that its perfect .
Its expensive but it works great , its nice to burn your Film on a DVD if you are in a Hotel Room .
Its nice to have the chance to do Video Editing on a Airplane or around the world .
I work with Avid and Liquid Edition on the M60 it works very stable .
My M60 is with 1,70 Ghz 1024MB 60GB 7200 Harddrive 4x DVD Burner and WUXGA Display .
I would buy a Laptop with Centrino (pentium M ) because you can work with 1 Battery about 3 Hours on Video editing , and about 4:30 if you do something with not so much power .I have 2 Batteries .
And the Centrino (pentium M ) have enough power for Video Editing , I have one hear and I work for a big Film Company .
You should take a WUXGA Display so you have more space for the Timeline .
Ask me if you have more questions !
Best
Duke
Message Edited by aronspell on 12-27-2003 06:47 PM
CSmith06
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December 27th, 2003 23:00
That would be? Lucasfilms??!?!!!!
CSmith06
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December 27th, 2003 23:00
If you're doing home editing style stuff mainly and not buying this computer as a video editing machine, meaning that it's main task will not be video editing, then I think that the Inspiron 8600 will suite you best. If you are going for a video editing machine whose main task is to edit and render video as quickly and smoothly as possible, then go with the Inspiron 5150.
My two cents.
mAlfunkti0n
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December 28th, 2003 02:00
Jim:
I know, was just giving ya a hard time :-)
The 15K U320 SCSI drives are nice though.
winter720
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December 28th, 2003 03:00
alienworkshop
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December 29th, 2003 03:00
ok, i have mobile pentium 4 3.06 ghz 533 fsb, 1 gig of ram, 4200 rpm hd (not so good), and won't mention graphics cause it doesn't matter. does anyone know if you can get good quality from this computer? maybe a faster hd? and another note, no one answered my question about why alienware's roswell computer that is labeled under "professional - digital video editing systems" comes with 1000 dollar optional upgrade card. and this computer is labled for VIDEO EDITING. sorry for the caps but everyone thought i said GAMING. please, someone help me.
alien
getsomethingels
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December 29th, 2003 05:00
I have been doing digital video editing for several years and have used several different systems. I currently run an Inspiron 5150 with 512mb ram and a 7200rpm 60gig hdd. I capture video via firewire from my sony handycam. I have several editing software packages, including Adobe Premier. All seem to work very well. Using my 4x dvd burner I can burn DVD's that are of excellent quality. I think the Inspiron 5150 when it is fully loaded is a good machine to edit videos, especially since it adds mobility. If you are going to make the mistake of getting a dell, I would recommend this system.
Alienware machines are top of the line gaming computer systems. I think many gamers build their own pcs, and Alienware is a good (although expensive) alternative to building your own pc since it generally uses high quality parts that gamers would choose anyways. I believe they might have set that system up as a gaming system with an emphasis on video editing and probably includes a high performance graphics card to run graphics intense games. As it has been discussed - a graphics card would not effect the quality of your video. Since, if you capture video via firewire, it is written onto your hard drive by your capture software. All editing will be done by manipulating that file and other captured and rendered files. Then, the processor would render the arranged clips into a movie. This is a proccess generally not requiring a top of the line graphics card - but accelerated by fast proccesors, abundant memory, a fast system bus, and quick and extensive disk space. The graphics card should only effect the output on your computer screen - not the quality of video that the computer produces.
So, I would imagine you could get fairly good quality as long as you can capture fine with high quality settings (probably at 720x480 pixels at 29.9fps), run the video editing programs with all the clips loaded. You might have to wait a little longer than those with a faster hard drive.
Hopefully, this helps.
Message Edited by getsomethingelse on 12-29-2003 01:12 AM
alienworkshop
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December 29th, 2003 10:00
getsomethingelse,
thanks, i think i see why the quality isn't as good. cause my friend's computer probably displays it nicer than mines. a lot nicer. wait, now that i think about, i remember asking my friend to send one of the clips he captured, and i think the clip looked worser on my laptop than when i saw it on his desktop. i wonder why i never picked up on that immediately when i watched the clip. LOL, mistake of getting a dell, get a....., why do i feel exactly like that? hehe
alien
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December 29th, 2003 17:00
I use Premiere 6.0 with no problems on my 8500. I capture via the firewire socket onto an external 7200rpm hard drive (Seagate Barracuda IV in a case with USB2 connection). I then transfer what I need into the laptop to edit. I export the finished stuff back to the hard drive or my DVD burner (Pioneer 106 in an external case).
Obviously I need the external components at either end of the process but can edit quite happily away from home.
Have never tried captures direct to my (permanently nearly full
) laptop HDD but I can capture an hour at once with no frame loss onto the external drive.
Helpful I hope.
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December 29th, 2003 18:00
kingfrog
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nojava
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January 10th, 2004 15:00
I've been capturing and editing DV with limited hardware for sometime. Currently I'm running on a 8600 with a 30MB drive and 256MB memory. A 4600rpm ide disk is fine for capture. However, if your using the system disk you should be sure to have a lot of spare room. You need to defragment the disk often and don't leave any big files(video) lying around.
If you plan on doing a lot of transitions and video effect you need the fastest cpu you can afford or plan to be waiting a long time to complete your movies(hours!). The more memory you can afford the better. My main system a desktop has 1.5GB of memory and lots of fast disk. The fast disks were for the days I was doing analog capture. Far more demanding. SCSI is for Analog these days.
To use a laptop best keep you clips short and don't plan on a lot of large movies. If you plan on creating a lot of MPEG2 (DVD's) plan on you laptop to be busy or a long long time.
Smedz
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January 19th, 2004 12:00
Hi,
I have ordered a I8600 and I also want to use it for Video Editing. I just want to confirm that the Firewire port is a Mini 4pin before I buy a 4pin to 4pin cable (my Sony Camcorder has a DV Out i-link 4pin port)
If seems that lots of Laptops come with a 6pin Firewire port and Dell don't acutally state the Inspiron 8600 comes with a 4pin (just says a firewire IEEE1394 port) so hence it can be a bit confusing it you a bit new to this.
Basically all you need is the Laptop, Camera and a cable to start capturing digital video, once you are happy with the outout you can burn it to DVD and thats it!
Thanks
Rollie_R
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January 20th, 2004 17:00
Smedz,
Thank you for using the Dell Community Forum.
Yes, the IEEE1394 port on the Inspiron 8600 is the 4-pin mini port.