I have the 2007FP and I don't have any banding issues. Yes, I am using it through the DVI connection. Is there some image you people use to test for banding? If so, give it here so I can varify
@TheThermos wrote:
I have the 2007FP and I don't have any banding issues. Yes, I am using it through the DVI connection. Is there some image you people use to test for banding? If so, give it here so I can varify
That's great to hear TheThermos, but can you check your monitor to see if it's an S-IPS or PVA panel like bytor65 said? I am anxious to see whether this is true, and if that's the only way Dell has been able to resolve this banding problem with the 20.1" panels.
Anyone else here have a PVA panel on their 20.1" widescreen or standard screen?
My guess is that purpleeyez does in fact get banding when he/she tests for it.
I'll gladly eat my words if he/she can link a photo of a gradient test.
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I agree with you. Less than a day after receiving his replacement, purpleyez declares his monitor perfect. A few posts later he asks for an app to test for banding. Hello, the whole issue is about banding.
If any of you got a 2007 and don't seem to have any banding problems, for the love of god run that program and post photographs, otherwise it's pretty hard for everyone to agree on whether all monitors are affected or not
Hello guys. I just recieved. My 2007fp. I think this is the final nail in the coffin of Dells DVI processing.
I have a Samsung S-PVA panel in mine and it has significant banding.
Also has the minor ghosting problem around letters.
This is now several different panels sizes and types and Dell is screwing up the output on all of them. 20", 24", Widescreen, 4:3, IPS, PVA. Poor quality DVI on all of them.
I will post more when I get more test results. I haven't tried
RGB yet
lonewolfe, Dell didn't seem to do much about backlight problems on the 2005. They were informed and the monitor went through 3 revisions and still nothing happened.
Of course they wouldn't do that.... dammit, this simple banding issue is annoying as heck. I'm going to be getting my third monitor sometime next week, hopefully - maybe it'll be better than the first two?
The second one was significantly brigher for some reason. I checked the service menu and it seems that some of the settings there were different. Odd.
A widespread fiasco such as this is exactly the perfect storm it would take to dethrone Dell from its lofty perch among the LCD market. How they handle this storm will be the difference between maintaining market superiority and fading to the wayside as a has-been. Maintaining a good reputation is crucial with the increasingly competitive LCD market, and reducing a problem such as this to mere financial equations is both short-sighted and ignorant of mass market behavior and brand awareness health. Opinions will spread, and everyone knows anger spreads quicker than enthusiasm. Eventually negative word will become a trend and seep onto review sites and magazine articles and who knows elsewhere. Then all the years of Dell slowly establishing itself as a top name and leader in the shift of the mass user market to LCD's, all that self-built reputation and positive word-of-mouth will be shot to he1l.
I don't think we need to worry that Dell will ignore this.
That is something to consider I suppose. But what is even more troubling to me is that even with the knowledge of this uniform and unanimous defect, not only is Dell continuing to
sell these monitors, they are doing so
en force with mass promotions, bundle deals, special offers, etc. They are
clearly moving as many units as they possibly can. This is not the business behvaior of someone who is prepared to resort to a factory recall. If they were really committed to full rectification of a problem like this then they would be cautious about releasing more defective units, not flamboyantly pushing mass volume out to the ignorant masses. This behavior reeks of a corporation that has no problem with tossing up both hands in the end and saying "Oh, well. We'll be more careful next time. Sorry" as they quietly slip our dollars into their pockets.
I'm eager to see what they do, and the more I think about what we're seeing from them (and NOT seeing) the darker my outlook becomes.
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Much as I would like Dell to "mend its ways," I'd be happier just getting a monitor that is as good as this monitor can be without the banding problems.
Does anyone know when people started to complain about this monitor? If we've been complaining about this for less than a month, perhaps we can give it a couple of more weeks, to give Dell time to fix this. Of course, we need to voice our complaints until they actually do fix it. I understand that they never fixed the 2005fpw's bleeding problem, but from what I understood, that wasn't happening on every single unit. Here, it IS happening on every single unit. So maybe Dell will actually fix this. But, I do agree that Dell continuing to sell these units is incredibly shady, even bordering on unethical.
@Pipnmike wrote:
Purpleyez, just a real dumb question. You ARE using the DVI input, aren't you? Since the problem exists only for DVI...
Hey again all,
OK, firstly (for user 'against') - I'm a bloke - so 'he' it is! ;)
Secondly, Pipnmike - a very good point. I am indeed forgetting that other users have only had this problem on DVI. On my previous model I had extremely serious banding on both DVI & D-sub - in fact it was rather worse on D-sub. When I got the newie & hooked it up to my analogue video card I was so exited to get a 'good one' I forgot to check DVI. So I guess I may still have a bubble to burst afterall. :(
The reason I asked for a testing app was because the newwie looked perfect "to my eyes" as stated previously. If an app can prove my eyes wrong then I want to give it a try.
Apologies for getting up any false hopes - time will tell - I am at work at the moment so will not be able to check DVI until I get home & take the monitor to my mates place as he has DVI.
I should be able to post the results about this time tomorrow (and I'll try not to get prematurely excited this time!)
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That's great to hear TheThermos, but can you check your monitor to see if it's an S-IPS or PVA panel like bytor65 said? I am anxious to see whether this is true, and if that's the only way Dell has been able to resolve this banding problem with the 20.1" panels.
Anyone else here have a PVA panel on their 20.1" widescreen or standard screen?
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I have a Samsung S-PVA panel in mine and it has significant banding.
Also has the minor ghosting problem around letters.
This is now several different panels sizes and types and Dell is screwing up the output on all of them. 20", 24", Widescreen, 4:3, IPS, PVA. Poor quality DVI on all of them.
I will post more when I get more test results. I haven't tried
RGB yet
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The second one was significantly brigher for some reason. I checked the service menu and it seems that some of the settings there were different. Odd.
The panels are the same, though (LG, LPL).
- snatch3r
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I don't think we need to worry that Dell will ignore this.
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I'm eager to see what they do, and the more I think about what we're seeing from them (and NOT seeing) the darker my outlook becomes.
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Hey again all,
OK, firstly (for user 'against') - I'm a bloke - so 'he' it is! ;)
Secondly, Pipnmike - a very good point. I am indeed forgetting that other users have only had this problem on DVI. On my previous model I had extremely serious banding on both DVI & D-sub - in fact it was rather worse on D-sub. When I got the newie & hooked it up to my analogue video card I was so exited to get a 'good one' I forgot to check DVI. So I guess I may still have a bubble to burst afterall. :(
The reason I asked for a testing app was because the newwie looked perfect "to my eyes" as stated previously. If an app can prove my eyes wrong then I want to give it a try.
Apologies for getting up any false hopes - time will tell - I am at work at the moment so will not be able to check DVI until I get home & take the monitor to my mates place as he has DVI.
I should be able to post the results about this time tomorrow (and I'll try not to get prematurely excited this time!)
Wish me luck!
Cheers,
Purpleyez
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