@ps2gamer4000 wrote:
My 9600xt is agp and it works just fine. I'm surprised your having a problem. AGP isn't that old.
I'll give that card a shot...thanks! AGP isn't old, but the slot in the Dimension 8200 is an AGP 4x/2.0 slot...it's not compatible with most of the AGP cards out there today which are for 4x|8x/3.0.
Your system can get a much better video card than that ATI card mentioned in the AGP slot flavor. 6600 GT is one of them and good for gaming. The 7600 GT or GS card is coming out soon, and will be even better. I have the 7800 GS card for my 4 1/2 year old system and it does games very well, but I did up the power supply.. Another member with the same card remained with the stock 250 watter and it works. So, If you still want that old slow ATI 9600 card, go for it, or do yourself a favor and get a better card that will work with the monitor and better gaming as well
Dim 4400 2.6 Ghz 400 FSB 1 Gb 2100 DDR memory Windows XP Home 17 inch 1703 FP monitor XFX 7800 GS O/C AGP ( 91.31 driver ) 48x CDRW 16x DVD-R 410 watt ( PcPower&Cooling )
Your system can get a much better video card than that ATI card mentioned in the AGP slot flavor. 6600 GT is one of them and good for gaming. The 7600 GT or GS card is coming out soon, and will be even better. I have the 7800 GS card for my 4 1/2 year old system and it does games very well, but I did up the power supply.. Another member with the same card remained with the stock 250 watter and it works. So, If you still want that old slow ATI 9600 card, go for it, or do yourself a favor and get a better card that will work with the monitor and better gaming as well
Dim 4400 2.6 Ghz 400 FSB 1 Gb 2100 DDR memory Windows XP Home 17 inch 1703 FP monitor XFX 7800 GS O/C AGP ( 91.31 driver ) 48x CDRW 16x DVD-R 410 watt ( PcPower&Cooling )
Thanks for the info man. However, I'm not really a gamer at all. This is an old machine I'm setting up for some other stuff, and won't be used as my primary machine either, so I think the 9600xt should do for now. But, it's good to know there are some alternatives out there if needed. Thanks!
@aeternitas wrote:
lol.. agp has 0 to do with your issues.
I love when people try and act like they know what might be the source of an issue and start listing keywords like agp, pci, ect...
Yeah.. the onchip cache isnt thoughputting to the hard drive at DDR! Thats why youre haveing mouse issues see!
Huh? Please elaborate. And when you can find a huge inventory of AGP cards compatible in a 4x/2.0 AGP slot (not 4x|8x/3.0) and that do DVI out with 1680x1050 resolution, let me know.
You need to upgrade your motherboard then. This is not a card issue and definitly not a monitor issue. A board that doesnt have strange quarks like that is also the least expincive method. 4x apg is standard on nearly all 50$ boards of verious sockes these days.
@aeternitas wrote:
lol.. Compatable with? The 1x-8x are just thoughput rateings. Not compatbility. Get a AGP card with DVI.
THATS IT.
If it was that simple, I wouldn't have made this post or bought 2 AGP cards that didn't work (causing my computer to not even get past the BIOS at boot).
@aeternitas wrote:
You need to upgrade your motherboard then. This is not a card issue and definitly not a monitor issue. A board that doesnt have strange quarks like that is also the least expincive method. 4x apg is standard on nearly all 50$ boards of verious sockes these days.
I realize it's a board issue...that's exactly why I posted. I wasn't lookin' to upgrade my board...I simply wanted to find a card that would do well for this monitor and function with my motherboard...that's all :)
1. getting a card that will work in a badly designed motherboard = at least 50$
2. Keeping a quarky mb = issues in the future
3. Getting a card that will work in the mb for the LCD = preformance LOSS for ~$50
1. getting a better mb = prefomance gain while keeping your setup
2. new mb = better furtureproofing
3. new mb = better value for your money
As i orginially said, this is still not an agp issue. Its a MB issue. Why youd want to keep that mb and waste $ is beyond me. Do what you like, this board is for logical suggestions and i will make them like ive done for ten years.
@aeternitas wrote:
1. getting a card that will work in a badly designed motherboard = at least 50$
2. Keeping a quarky mb = issues in the future
3. Getting a card that will work in the mb for the LCD = preformance LOSS for ~$50
1. getting a better mb = prefomance gain while keeping your setup
2. new mb = better furtureproofing
3. new mb = better value for your money
As i orginially said, this is still not an agp issue. Its a MB issue. Why youd want to keep that mb and waste $ is beyond me. Do what you like, this board is for logical suggestions and i will make them like ive done for ten years.
And I appreciate your suggestion. However, this isn't going to be my primary machine... I recently bought a new machine and just wanted to get my old machine up and running as a secondary computer. Don't need the performance and such...
You're totally right...a new board is a logical solution, but I didn't want to deal with all that effort (and the Dell case this computer is in). I simply wanted a decent card that would work well with the monitor.
Thanks for your suggestion though...something to do in the future if I decide to upgrade that machine.
I know this is an old post but I would like to point out that 8x AGP cards are backwards compatible with the older 4/2 2.0 AGP's. Here is the minimum specs for my BFG 7800 GS OC AGP:
Minimum System Requirements
>> CPU with processor speed of 700MHz or higher
>> 128MB of RAM
>> CD or DVD-ROM drive
>> An available AGP 2.0 slot or higher
>> 35MB available hard disk space
(50MB for full installation)
>> Microsoft® Windows® 98, ME, 2000, XP, NT4.0 with service pack 5 or 6
>> A minimum 400W system power supply (with 12V current rating of 20A or more)
>> An AGP compliant motherboard. Some motherboards violate the AGP specification and therefore this card may not physically fit in some systems
>> An available hard disk drive power dongle (smaller floppy disk drive connector is not sufficient)
Notice it says any AGP 2.0. If the boards don't work in your PC, then it is a MB issue (also, possibly the power supply)
ps2gamer4000
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July 4th, 2006 01:00
Mike Graben
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July 4th, 2006 01:00
I'll give that card a shot...thanks! AGP isn't old, but the slot in the Dimension 8200 is an AGP 4x/2.0 slot...it's not compatible with most of the AGP cards out there today which are for 4x|8x/3.0.
Mike Graben
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July 4th, 2006 02:00
Thanks for the recommendation man. Works great! Though, I haven't yet gotten the monitor to 'really' test haha
Thanks again...
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July 4th, 2006 12:00
Your system can get a much better video card than that ATI card mentioned in the AGP slot flavor. 6600 GT is one of them and good for gaming. The 7600 GT or GS card is coming out soon, and will be even better. I have the 7800 GS card for my 4 1/2 year old system and it does games very well, but I did up the power supply.. Another member with the same card remained with the stock 250 watter and it works. So, If you still want that old slow ATI 9600 card, go for it, or do yourself a favor and get a better card that will work with the monitor and better gaming as well
Dim 4400
2.6 Ghz 400 FSB
1 Gb 2100 DDR memory
Windows XP Home
17 inch 1703 FP monitor
XFX 7800 GS O/C AGP ( 91.31 driver )
48x CDRW
16x DVD-R
410 watt ( PcPower&Cooling )
Mike Graben
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July 4th, 2006 19:00
Thanks for the info man. However, I'm not really a gamer at all. This is an old machine I'm setting up for some other stuff, and won't be used as my primary machine either, so I think the 9600xt should do for now. But, it's good to know there are some alternatives out there if needed. Thanks!
aeternitas
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July 5th, 2006 02:00
I love when people try and act like they know what might be the source of an issue and start listing keywords like agp, pci, ect...
Yeah.. the onchip cache isnt thoughputting to the hard drive at DDR! Thats why youre haveing mouse issues see!
Mike Graben
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July 5th, 2006 04:00
Huh? Please elaborate. And when you can find a huge inventory of AGP cards compatible in a 4x/2.0 AGP slot (not 4x|8x/3.0) and that do DVI out with 1680x1050 resolution, let me know.
LCDPhreak
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July 5th, 2006 06:00
aeternitas
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July 6th, 2006 02:00
aeternitas
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July 6th, 2006 02:00
THATS IT.
Mike Graben
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July 6th, 2006 02:00
If it was that simple, I wouldn't have made this post or bought 2 AGP cards that didn't work (causing my computer to not even get past the BIOS at boot).
Mike Graben
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July 6th, 2006 02:00
I realize it's a board issue...that's exactly why I posted. I wasn't lookin' to upgrade my board...I simply wanted to find a card that would do well for this monitor and function with my motherboard...that's all :)
aeternitas
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July 6th, 2006 03:00
2. Keeping a quarky mb = issues in the future
3. Getting a card that will work in the mb for the LCD = preformance LOSS for ~$50
1. getting a better mb = prefomance gain while keeping your setup
2. new mb = better furtureproofing
3. new mb = better value for your money
As i orginially said, this is still not an agp issue. Its a MB issue. Why youd want to keep that mb and waste $ is beyond me. Do what you like, this board is for logical suggestions and i will make them like ive done for ten years.
Mike Graben
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July 6th, 2006 03:00
And I appreciate your suggestion. However, this isn't going to be my primary machine... I recently bought a new machine and just wanted to get my old machine up and running as a secondary computer. Don't need the performance and such...
You're totally right...a new board is a logical solution, but I didn't want to deal with all that effort (and the Dell case this computer is in). I simply wanted a decent card that would work well with the monitor.
Thanks for your suggestion though...something to do in the future if I decide to upgrade that machine.
Axim_X51v
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October 6th, 2006 08:00
Minimum System Requirements
>> CPU with processor speed of 700MHz or higher
>> 128MB of RAM
>> CD or DVD-ROM drive
>> An available AGP 2.0 slot or higher
>> 35MB available hard disk space
(50MB for full installation)
>> Microsoft® Windows® 98, ME, 2000, XP, NT4.0 with service pack 5 or 6
>> A minimum 400W system power supply (with 12V current rating of 20A or more)
>> An AGP compliant motherboard. Some motherboards violate the AGP specification and therefore this card may not physically fit in some systems
>> An available hard disk drive power dongle (smaller floppy disk drive connector is not sufficient)
Notice it says any AGP 2.0. If the boards don't work in your PC, then it is a MB issue (also, possibly the power supply)