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August 25th, 2006 13:00

and, if you could, this image for us people without windows:

http://www.spronkey.com/sdc-gradients.png

thanks!

August 25th, 2006 14:00

Thank you dctokyo for your efforts :)
Everything looks fine to me.

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August 25th, 2006 14:00

Yeah, it's probably overheating. Sorry about that. Not sure what you can do other than get it replaced or something. : ( Have you updated your graphics card drivers to the latest version? It does sound like heat related problems though.

Brian

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August 25th, 2006 17:00

dctokyo, sorry to here this is happening to you. I was afraid of this. AO3 with the Samsung Panel is one thing, but AO3 with a BenQ is another. BenQ AO3 = AOO

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August 25th, 2006 18:00

Hey, what about adjusting the refresh rate? What's in on? 60hz? Not sure if that would make sense. Also, try this monitor if you can with a VGA cable, Composite cable, or something else other than your DVI cable. Just to see if we can narrow down what's going wrong....

Also, can you try this display on anything else like another computer, Xbox, or something that can connect to it? It could be something with your settings, the DVI is buggared up on your display... Worth trying I'd say...

Brian

Message Edited by gdguide2 on 08-25-200602:14 PM

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August 25th, 2006 21:00

I believe that BenQ and AU Optronics are the same compagny.
So DELL would use AU Optronics and Samsung Panels for the 2407WFP and LG-Philips and Samsung Panels for the 2007FP.
Dell sales a very high volume of monitors and it makes sens to diversify LCD panel sources.
But when one panel is inferior to the other for a given model, this become very annoying for the "expert" customer who has very high expectations.

BTW, I read some rumors in the Anandtech forum that DELL might exit the LCD business.
Maybe the A03 panel will be the last revision...

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August 25th, 2006 23:00

Dell exit the LCD biz? Seems unlikely, they sell more than anyone else and they still need screens to sell with their computers. Doubtful, very doubtful.

And where is the evidence that Dell has switched panels in the 2407. Not putting it past Dell they do it all the time, but I haven't seen that yet.

Benq has always been the assembler of the 2407 so that is not evidence of an AUO panel.

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August 26th, 2006 02:00



@RadXGe wrote:
They only need to iron out a few (but important) bugs. I am anxious to see the improvements that are made to the A03 revision.




IF any are fixed. Sure the banding MAY be fixed (as dctokyo stated), but overheating could be another problem. Ill just wait to see until more A03's hit peoples comp desks and reviews start popping up.

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August 26th, 2006 02:00

Personally, I do not think that Dell will exit the LCD computer monitor market.
But it is possible that the margin might be too low to be profitable in regards of the involved business risk.
IMO, Dell could exit the LCD TV business. This would be make more sense to me.

Anyway, I just hope that Dell will stick with the Samsung panel. They only need to iron out a few (but important) bugs. I am anxious to see the improvements that are made to the A03 revision.

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August 26th, 2006 02:00

************************** Reposted***********************

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I can not Believe this; the monitor is cutting out on me. The screen goes blank but the power is still on and I am unable to turn it off, I must unplug the power cable. It sometimes it goes out in 2 minutes other time 5 or 10 minutes. If I unplug the pwer cable and re-fit the cable without the video cable it will do a self test but once I put the video cable on again it works fine for awhile. I have a DVI-dual link video cable with a Asus x1800XT Top card that will run dual-link. the other monitor did not cut out on me once. This one is cutting out over and over.

Help, is it over heating? everything was going great and now this, I will be on the phone in the morning to Dell support.

UPDATE:

You will not believe this; it is cutting out when I go to some websites, if they have a lot of flashing the monitor will go blank, any ideas here? I am testing the sites now; this is one of the sites that will make the monitor go blank the moment it opens. http://www.jobsinjapan.com/

So it is not from over heating………. Help"

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August 26th, 2006 03:00

that's very interesting... i'm not entirely sure, but doesn't a single link dvi cable have 2 small banks of connectors, whereas a dual has the other areas filled in so its filled up with connectors? if thats true, doesnt the 2407wfp have a single link? if so...how are we getting 1200 horizontal lines if it can only do 1080p?

maybe i'm smoking crack.

my 2407 is in studio at school so i cant check right now.

EDIT: i see from those pictures that i was correct about the connector positions. and im guessing that if you were switching FROM a dual, that the 2407 came with a dual. in which case my advice would be stick with the dual, thats probably not the problem. or get another dual to test. or, like people said, try the vga cable for a while. if you dont have vga out for some reason, get an adapter.

Message Edited by Yorb on 08-25-200611:38 PM

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August 26th, 2006 03:00

quick question here,

I was going to change the cable from a DVI-D Dual-Link to a DVI-D Single-Link but it say's that a DVI single link 60-Hz can display a resolution of 1920 x 1080, while a DVI dual link can display a resolution of 2048 x 1536. The orginal cable from Dell is the DVI-D Single-Link, why would Dell use this with the 2407WFP as the resolution of the 2407WFP is 1900 X 1200, more that the rated 1920 X 1080 of the cable that is supplied with the monitor, I would think that the DVI-D Dual-Link would be the best. any imput here guys?

 

dctokyo

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August 26th, 2006 05:00

Latest news, it is the monitor…… this is what is happening…………

If I go to some web-sties, or try to open some pictures the monitor will just go blank, if I try to reset it by pushing the buttons on the OSD nothing happens, I even can not turn it off, the power button is green but nothing happens. If I unplug the power cord then it will reset but if the web-site is still open on the screen will crash again.

 

Now BF2 will make the monitor go blank and the buttons are frozen on the OSD after the game starts……………. I have never seen this before so any input here would be helpful.

 

These are the things that I have done to correct the problem without success.

 

1: change the power cable

2: change the video cable (I have tried to use both the single and dual cables with no luck. Sorry I have not tested the vga. My video card has dual DVI out and I don’t care if the vga works because I wish to use DVI only and the other A02 had no problems at all with the DVI.

3: Reloaded the video drivers, (safe mode and then using Driver cleaner)

 

*****At the moment I have gone back to the original monitor that had several dead pixels (A02)( this monitor will be picked up on Monday by Dell) and everything is working ok, no blank screens, so the A03 monitor has a problem.  I do not know what is going on, if there is anyone here that has seen this I would love to hear what caused the problem.

 

Today is Saturday so I will be calling Dell on Monday, but I am not sure if I should ask for the A02 or A03 if the A03 has problems.

Message Edited by dctokyo on 08-26-200601:21 AM

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211 Posts

August 26th, 2006 13:00

Dual link cable. Does nothing. Absolutely nothing on monitors not designed to NEED dual link. This monitor is not one of them. Dual link is exactly that. A second set of links. On this monitor there will be nothing connected to the second set of links, so it makes no difference.

It looks like your second monitor is defective. I don't think all A03 will behave this way.


Could you dump the service menu info of each of your monitors it should should show the firmware and screen type in each case:

Instructions and example from my 2007fp, I think it is the same on the 2407:
http://i.pbase.com/o4/04/606404/1/60924652.2007Vers.jpg
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