What's the ideal video card for this LCD? I choose the NVIDIA 7600GS for my system because it's AGP and it only req. a 300 watt. power supply. Allthough I have a only a 250 watt. in my Shuttle XPC system.
Personally I have never had the problems you are talking about. I turn the monitor & select portrait & that is it.
Computer, I would stick with that as it is supposed to be the best for agp. As soon as you get a bit richer & don't want the blue screens of death then treat yourself to a 400w good brand upwards. You most likely don't need what I have got - 750w thermaltake tough power.
We don't know his system Kevin. He might have a computer that only takes AGP slot cards, and those cards you mentioned are top of the line PCI-Express. Wish he would list his systems specs for us so we can assist him better. The card he listed is the 7600 GT card which is in AGP and PCI-Express version.
A friendly request ... If a member wishes assistance with their computer problem or has a question regarding their system, we really need a few basic system spec's regarding your computer in order to do so. Some information needed is the Model number of the computer (Example : Dimension 4700 / Dim 2400 / Dim 3000 / E310 etc), Model number of your Monitor, if its monitor related. We need to know the amount of system ram (Memory) as well, and your Video card installed. Without the basic information, we cannot rely on our Crystal Ball to work. Friendly advise....This is your computer. You should know something about it when it has issues, and you need assistance.
http://majorgeeks.com/Belarc_Advisor_d1385.html This is a small program that you can download, and install, that will give you loads of information on what system you have, and what is on it, including model number, video card installed, amount of system ram, cpu, and most of your applications installed.
Or you can click on Start > Help and Support > click on Computer Information located near the upper left side of Help, and Support, and this bit of info will tell you your model number, your systems main memory amount, and your Service Tag number.
Hi guys. Yes, I should have clearly stated my system. I build my own computers so there is no brand involved. When my Samsung 21GLs died a week ago I had to pull out an old 21" DELL CRT that has serious warping issues. You can use it intermittently, but over long periods of time it can give you a headache.
Here is the system I built from scratch. There are 10 drives to this tower all totalled. It is not on a network:
__________HARDWARE______________________________
PIII 1000 SCSI Standalone
AGP (but early iteration)
ATI Radeon 7200 (w/stated "AGP 2X" compatibility even though mine is probably 1X)
2k RAM
__________HARDWARE ((NOT)) AVAILABLE______________________________
PCI EXPRESS
AGP (arguably) that is more recent than 4X
__________OS______________________________
WINDOWS 2000 PROFESSIONAL
Fully service packed up through 2005
__________APPLICATIONS______________________________
ACROBAT 7 PRO
PAGEMAKER 7
IN DESIGN
MACROMEDIA (forthcoming, not yet purchased)
(Assorted GRAPHICS programs, Corel Draw, Micrografx, Thumbs+)
(Assorted Database PIM (telephony) and SPREADSHEET programs)
Most conspicuously missing from this list, as you can see, are games. I have a very nice Home Theatre and will rarely watch movies on this monitor (if ever). It is the crispness TEXT -- and the sharpness of GRAPHIC detail -- that I am most looking for.
And I am a writer. The PORTRAIT mode option is viscerally appealing to me for its obvious value in giving me a lengthier vertical "whiteboard" on which to compose -- that, and the obvious advantage when surfing the internet (which is by native definition vertically oriented). Also I use authoring software (essentially a DATABASE program) which is best viewed on a large monitor by virtue of the plot flowcharts and character attributes et al. You can see I am almost exclusively text and graphics oriented. :)
MC
Message Edited by MISS CHIEVOUS on 10-21-2006 09:27 AM
Message Edited by MISS CHIEVOUS on 10-21-2006 09:42 AM
That is one very old video card. 2003 I think, could be off a little bit. Try another driver, see if the driver gives you the rotation option, and if not, get your self another video card that is a little more modern. They won't cost much if you are not a gamer. The ati icon in the system tray ( If its there ) can be clicked on to see if you have the rotation option available, or right click your desktop, click on properties next, than click on Settings on top. Now in the lower right side you will see Advanced. Click on advanced, and than click on your vidoe card model number on top. You may find a rotation button to click on to rotate the monitor.
In comparison what I see:
With an ATI All In Wonder 7500, AGP 4x with Catalyst Version 04.7.
Right click ATI red Tray Icon, it will show rotation options.
Standard Landscape 0 degrees, rotate right 90, rotate left 90, and rotate 180 degrees.
Try that video card driver, Catalyst Version 04.7 ( I know it has those options) or the newer Catalyst 6.2 Windows 2000 (links below, and should have those options), if you can, you may not need a new card if it works O.K. for you since you are only writing and reading now.
When you get into these: (graphics intensive and any rendering applications)
IN DESIGN
MACROMEDIA (forthcoming, not yet purchased)
(Assorted GRAPHICS programs, Corel Draw, Micrografx, Thumbs+)
(Assorted Database PIM (telephony) and SPREADSHEET programs)
You might want to purchase a faster PC with a 3 gig CPU and a minimum of a gig of RAM.
High-end video cards are predominantly for gaming but help for graphics when calling on it to write and rewrite that big screen.
Also consider upgrading to at least XP PRO SP2
This is the 7200 ATI product spec page: supports 1920x1200 in 2D
TRY THIS FIRST, Catalyst 6.2 Windows 2000 - Driver Download, Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 or higher required:
Download page:
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
Since you don’t see the option to rotate now, I’m assuming you are using an older driver, that’s why I included the links.
OR buy nVidia 7600GS or 7600GT for AGP, make sure it’ll fit in your case, mainly the length since yours is an older PC, research the portrait specs by researching the drivers, driver 84.21 for XP has portrait modes and so should the newest drivers.
Dell recommends 6000 nVidia series cards preferably 6800GT, not necessary in your case yet. I use a TI4600 nVidia to do what your doing and it's a 4 year old video card.
Post back and let us know what happens.
That ought to help.
Good Day:)
Message Edited by all the facts on 10-21-2006 02:14 PM
Sigh. :( Perhaps my original post wasn't clear on this point:
I have no intention of using my old ATI card with this Dell 24" monitor.
I have posted this thread precisely because I will have to buy a >>NEW video card.
I have not purchased this 24" monitor yet.
And I __will not__ purchase this monitor unless and until I can be certain that the >>NEW video card (I obviously know I have to buy to drive it) will work on my older system.
This has nothing whatsoever to do with either the backup monitor I am currently using, or the ATI card that is driving it. BOTH ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED.
But I think you'd agree it is pointless for me to buy a state-of-the art monitor . . . that no AGP video card will support because my system is old. Either I know __in advance__ of a video card that will drive the PORTRAIT mode of this monitor on my PIII system or I'll get a different monitor that WILL.
Buy a $600 monitor . . . and then find out that no video card that my system supports will drive it for the primary purpose for which I bought the monitor in the first place? I DON'T THINK SO.
PIII 1000 System ? ( 5 plus years old ) Since its an older computer, your best bet is to wait for another system purchase with the new Vista operating system, new DirectX 10, and DirectX 10 video cards. Than get the monitor. Purchasing a new video card for that system, is just a waste of money, in my opinion, since you want the 2407 monitor, and need a good video card to run it well. Good luck to you
"your best bet is to wait for another system purchase (snip)"
The famous Last Bastion of the woefully uncreative: Just buy a new computer.
The problem is, you're talking to someone who not only is a writer, she builds her own computers. I no more need an entirely new computer than I need a joystick. Believe me, I'll know when I need a new computer -- and it will be when an application I can no longer live without requires it. Hardware has never driven my computer build decisions; only software. I could care less about speed; I want sharpness of detail.
My current ATI card (or rather, Catalyst program) has the option for rotation. I suppose I could buy this monitor and if it doesn't work, just take it back? I'll check out their return policy.
But in the meantime, I'll post to some other forums and see what I can find out. Thanks anyway guys! :)
Hardware has never driven my computer build decisions
er.. then what was the original post about?
Kevin, I think illegal HTML just means a syntax error, or something the forum software can't handle - it seems to only support basic tags - not even tables.
Whoa, that was a waste of time... Yeah, attitude does attract help in as much as bees are to ..um garbage.
I have almost given away systems like that as I have enough door stops.
Those programs alone would far outweigh in price than about 5 decent systems would cost. I have quite a few of those that she mentioned & I know what they cost me. Not that I would be listened to but to have a virtually trouble free time of it, I would suggest the following...
core 2 duo E6400
gigabyte ga-965p-dq6 motherboard (c2d)
geil pc5300 667mhz ddr2 2x1gb.
cooler master mystique 631 silver case
cooler master ex. power 550w V2 PSU
gainward 7600GT 256mb ddr3 pci-e passive cooled
benq dvd/cd 16x writer
benq 16x dvdrom
seagate sata2 16mb 320gig. hdd
keyboard/mouse of your choice
monitor - whatever suits what you do.
WinXP sp2 (win 2000 not even supported by microsoft....)
I was going to point you to this thread. There is nothing like a kick in the teeth when we were only trying to help. I have a hard job trying to stop saying something nasty when I see some specs.. This is a hardware discussion group & not many of us like to try to help with 'legacy' problems - not even the companys that made the components. As I said, m/soft have stopped supporting operating systems under XP. What I was also curious about was the programs she is running in that, if they are modern versions, then the support for win 2000 must also be suspect.
That html thing, I guessed it was something like that, but, on some I can't see any changes made:smileyindifferent:
I wonder, since she said that she is a writer, if she wrote a book on " How to win friends, and influence people " :smileyvery-happy:
So, she can keep her 6 year old system, 6 year old operating system, 6 year old software, 6 year old video card, and her dying 6 year old monitors, and next time she ask for assistance, she can go else where for assistance. ( Or I'll suggest she get Windows ME for the next upgrade :smileytongue: )
Dim 4400
2.6 Ghz 400 FSB
1 Gb 2100 DDR memory
Windows XP Home
24 inch 2407 WFP
XFX 7800 GS O/C AGP ( 91.47 driver )
Dual 16x DVD-R
410 watt ( PcPower&Cooling )
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2.6 Ghz 400 FSB
1 Gb 2100 DDR memory
Windows XP Home
24 inch 2407 WFP ( $ 654.15)
XFX 7800 GS O/C AGP ( 91.47 driver )
Dual 16x DVD-R
410 watt ( PcPower&Cooling )
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7950GX2-1GB Extreme Edition 520Mhz
Model: (PV-T71U-ZDF9)
Description: XFX PCIe 7950 GX2 1GB DVI/DVI/TV
Next best - XFX 7900GTX (675/1700) 512MB Extreme Edition
Next best - EVGA 7900 GS KO 256Mb PCI-E
Next best - Leadtek 7600GT WinFast PX7600GT 256mb good all round - good price.
Personally I have never had the problems you are talking about. I turn the monitor & select portrait & that is it.
Computer, I would stick with that as it is supposed to be the best for agp. As soon as you get a bit richer & don't want the blue screens of death then treat yourself to a 400w good brand upwards. You most likely don't need what I have got - 750w thermaltake tough power.
cheers
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http://majorgeeks.com/Belarc_Advisor_d1385.html
This is a small program that you can download, and install, that will give you loads of information on what system you have, and what is on it, including model number, video card installed, amount of system ram, cpu, and most of your applications installed.
Or you can click on Start > Help and Support > click on Computer Information located near the upper left side of Help, and Support, and this bit of info will tell you your model number, your systems main memory amount, and your Service Tag number.
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Here is the system I built from scratch. There are 10 drives to this tower all totalled. It is not on a network:
__________HARDWARE______________________________
PIII 1000 SCSI Standalone
AGP (but early iteration)
ATI Radeon 7200 (w/stated "AGP 2X" compatibility even though mine is probably 1X)
2k RAM
__________HARDWARE ((NOT)) AVAILABLE______________________________
PCI EXPRESS
AGP (arguably) that is more recent than 4X
__________OS______________________________
WINDOWS 2000 PROFESSIONAL
Fully service packed up through 2005
__________APPLICATIONS______________________________
ACROBAT 7 PRO
PAGEMAKER 7
IN DESIGN
MACROMEDIA (forthcoming, not yet purchased)
(Assorted GRAPHICS programs, Corel Draw, Micrografx, Thumbs+)
(Assorted Database PIM (telephony) and SPREADSHEET programs)
Most conspicuously missing from this list, as you can see, are games. I have a very nice Home Theatre and will rarely watch movies on this monitor (if ever). It is the crispness TEXT -- and the sharpness of GRAPHIC detail -- that I am most looking for.
And I am a writer. The PORTRAIT mode option is viscerally appealing to me for its obvious value in giving me a lengthier vertical "whiteboard" on which to compose -- that, and the obvious advantage when surfing the internet (which is by native definition vertically oriented). Also I use authoring software (essentially a DATABASE program) which is best viewed on a large monitor by virtue of the plot flowcharts and character attributes et al. You can see I am almost exclusively text and graphics oriented. :)
MC
Message Edited by MISS CHIEVOUS on 10-21-2006 09:27 AM
Message Edited by MISS CHIEVOUS on 10-21-2006 09:42 AM
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With an ATI All In Wonder 7500, AGP 4x with Catalyst Version 04.7.
Right click ATI red Tray Icon, it will show rotation options.
Standard Landscape 0 degrees, rotate right 90, rotate left 90, and rotate 180 degrees.
Try that video card driver, Catalyst Version 04.7 ( I know it has those options) or the newer Catalyst 6.2 Windows 2000 (links below, and should have those options), if you can, you may not need a new card if it works O.K. for you since you are only writing and reading now.
When you get into these: (graphics intensive and any rendering applications)
IN DESIGN
MACROMEDIA (forthcoming, not yet purchased)
(Assorted GRAPHICS programs, Corel Draw, Micrografx, Thumbs+)
(Assorted Database PIM (telephony) and SPREADSHEET programs)
You might want to purchase a faster PC with a 3 gig CPU and a minimum of a gig of RAM.
High-end video cards are predominantly for gaming but help for graphics when calling on it to write and rewrite that big screen.
Also consider upgrading to at least XP PRO SP2
This is the 7200 ATI product spec page: supports 1920x1200 in 2D
http://www.ati.com/products/radeon7200/specs.html
Radeon driver download page:
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
TRY THIS FIRST, Catalyst 6.2 Windows 2000 - Driver Download, Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 or higher required:
Download page:
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
Since you don’t see the option to rotate now, I’m assuming you are using an older driver, that’s why I included the links.
OR buy nVidia 7600GS or 7600GT for AGP, make sure it’ll fit in your case, mainly the length since yours is an older PC, research the portrait specs by researching the drivers, driver 84.21 for XP has portrait modes and so should the newest drivers.
Dell recommends 6000 nVidia series cards preferably 6800GT, not necessary in your case yet. I use a TI4600 nVidia to do what your doing and it's a 4 year old video card.
Post back and let us know what happens.
That ought to help.
Good Day:)
Message Edited by all the facts on 10-21-2006 02:14 PM
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I have no intention of using my old ATI card with this Dell 24" monitor.
I have posted this thread precisely because I will have to buy a >>NEW video card.
I have not purchased this 24" monitor yet.
And I __will not__ purchase this monitor unless and until I can be certain that the >>NEW video card (I obviously know I have to buy to drive it) will work on my older system.
This has nothing whatsoever to do with either the backup monitor I am currently using, or the ATI card that is driving it. BOTH ARE GOING TO BE REPLACED.
But I think you'd agree it is pointless for me to buy a state-of-the art monitor . . . that no AGP video card will support because my system is old. Either I know __in advance__ of a video card that will drive the PORTRAIT mode of this monitor on my PIII system or I'll get a different monitor that WILL.
Buy a $600 monitor . . . and then find out that no video card that my system supports will drive it for the primary purpose for which I bought the monitor in the first place? I DON'T THINK SO.
MC
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The famous Last Bastion of the woefully uncreative: Just buy a new computer.
The problem is, you're talking to someone who not only is a writer, she builds her own computers. I no more need an entirely new computer than I need a joystick. Believe me, I'll know when I need a new computer -- and it will be when an application I can no longer live without requires it. Hardware has never driven my computer build decisions; only software. I could care less about speed; I want sharpness of detail.
My current ATI card (or rather, Catalyst program) has the option for rotation. I suppose I could buy this monitor and if it doesn't work, just take it back? I'll check out their return policy.
But in the meantime, I'll post to some other forums and see what I can find out. Thanks anyway guys! :)
Miss Chievous
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Kevin, I think illegal HTML just means a syntax error, or something the forum software can't handle - it seems to only support basic tags - not even tables.
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2.6 Ghz 400 FSB
1 Gb 2100 DDR memory
Windows XP Home
24 inch 2407 WFP
XFX 7800 GS O/C AGP ( 91.47 driver )
Dual 16x DVD-R
410 watt ( PcPower&Cooling )
PC-Cillon Internet Security