I've found that the "bump" on the upper frame has nothing to do with the bleeding. I've found on a forum a guy wich claims to have exactly the same bright halo on exactly the same position as mine. He posted this picture:
This is the same effect I see on my model. Its a manufacture fault, so, I'm wondering why I didn't notice it on my previous model, but the effect is so small that perhaps I didn't catch it. I doubt a replacement can fix it, thought.
Edit: don't take me wrong, I LOVE this monitor, but I have the "my first LCD syndrome" and I want to know IT ALL about it. Anyone has the same effect on its model?
Just to let you know about my experience.. I don't have any real noticeable backlight bleeding (though if you look really really close there's maybe a small faint line right at the very edge of the left side of my monitor, but nothing you can notice easily).
However, something I've noticed that's a bit odd is that I often get light "reflecting" off the screen. Most noticeably the bottom-left side of the monitor. Well it's either that or somehow the viewing angle is less on that area of the monitor (if you look directly at it the "light" goes away). But most of the time even in dark video games you can't tell. So I'm very happy.
MadFerIt2006 wrote:However, something I've noticed that's a bit odd is that I often get light "reflecting" off the screen. Most noticeably the bottom-left side of the monitor.
Hi, well, mine thoes exactly the same effect. I bet is caused because the vision angles. If you take a look at the photo I posted, you can see that this unit also has the effect on the bottom-right area.
@all the facts: I opened up this thread just for consider this. The fact is that I've exchanged an unit that developed dead pixels and I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE OF THOUSE LITTLE FELLAS, because the problem proved to be really annoyng for my work and my mind integrity :P So, because Dell's dead pixel policy, exchange blindly this new unit can be a risk. That's why I want to know more about the backlight bleeding, I can live with it but I want to know how serius it is :)
I would exchange until I'm satisfied, but that’s just my opinion, it's up to you what you want to do or will accept as a good product.
Two adjacent dead pixels is Dell policy and reason for any exchange at any time. Therefore any dead is always exchangeable at any time.
Backlight should be examined with all light s off in a room and put up a black test screen.
If your pic was taken with room light on it is of no value for the backlight test evaluation.
Not serious at all if it doesn't bother you.
Good Day:)
Message Edited by all the facts on 11-05-2006 04:53 PM
@all the facts. You're right, I will stop bubbling and try to get a pic of my monitor overnight :) But I bet that the unit is not defective and this bleeding is inherith of the model.
Technical information:
Environment: almost perfect dark.
Monitor's bright level: 50%
Camera exposure: 1/4 sec
Sensitivity: ISO 80
All the uniformity defects are not evident at nacked eye. The bleeding I was complaining is the small white area over the purple fringe you can see near the top-left corner of the screen.
Saw the photo. If I am not to blind, I think that it shows a lttle bleeding top left, top right, & btm. right. Not too bad compared to some;)
How does it perform on the other solid colors?
I originally advised the return of it simply because if any scratches etc. get on mine it will have to be someone elses fault other than the manufacturer. Also I won't put up with imperfections. Maybe I am
Obsessive Compulsive?
Also, if I purchase something new & exchange it, I want it to be new - not second hand refurb..
Thanks kevinR100.
Saw the photo. If I am not to blind, I think that it shows a lttle bleeding top left, top right, & btm. right. Not too bad compared to some
Yes! I think thats is not bad compared to other monitors I saw and used. That's why I was curious about other users experiences on this model.
The top left bleeding is visible only on dark background on a dark room. The other ones are only evident raising the brightness to max (wich I will never do).
How does it perform on the other solid colors?
Pretty well, good uniformity and nothing evident coming form the edges.
I originally advised the return of it simply because if any scratches etc.
Oh, I see, well, is nothing too serius. Just a very small bump evident only if you rub the frame with your finger. Almost nothing. I was aware of it only because could be the causal of the bleeding problem, wich is not :)
fwiw, I have had no problems with my 2007WFP and I've had it since not long after they first came out, IIRC.
It says REV A00 Made in Mexico.
I think I might have one dead pixel somewhere that I saw once while testing the monitor for dead pixels but I can't really find it since the pixel pitch is nice and tight.
Sure, it has the typical banding issues but I've noticed it in real-life use maybe a handful of times in the many months I've had this puppy.
Everything else about it I love. Great widescreen, nice black blacks, nice response/refresh time in games (thanks to S-IPS panel no doubt).
If I could buy a second one I would, though I have no real use for it. Hopefully this one will last me a longtime.
Mmmm interesting to know that after some time the monitor still behaves as spected.
Can you check the backlight bleeding and compare it to my picture? Can be interesting to know if Dell made some changes on the monitor body after two revisions.
Lot's of backlight bleeding!.....but it's a S-IPS panel.
I could change but what number from the 'lottery' will I get next?....
1. No backlight bleeding but an S-PVA panel?
2. Banding and an S-PVA panel?
3. Banding and an S-IPS panel?
4. Backlight bleeding and an S-PVA panel?
5. Banding, backlight bleeding and an S-PVA panel?
6. Banding, backlight bleeding and an S-IPS panel?
7. Mystery fault number 7?
8. A S-IPS that works as it should error free?
What's the chances of number '8' coming out? (10 million to 1 I guess)
That's why I'm on what other people get. There are other monitors with serious backlight bleeding out there. Mine is fine, but I'm not an expert on this issue, and I want to know what other people has to say about their units.
KevinR100
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Somnio
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I've found that the "bump" on the upper frame has nothing to do with the bleeding. I've found on a forum a guy wich claims to have exactly the same bright halo on exactly the same position as mine. He posted this picture:
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=monitor1ba7.jpg
This is the same effect I see on my model. Its a manufacture fault, so, I'm wondering why I didn't notice it on my previous model, but the effect is so small that perhaps I didn't catch it. I doubt a replacement can fix it, thought.
Edit: don't take me wrong, I LOVE this monitor, but I have the "my first LCD syndrome" and I want to know IT ALL about it. Anyone has the same effect on its model?
Message Edited by Somnio on 11-04-2006 07:18 AM
MadFerIt2006
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November 4th, 2006 22:00
However, something I've noticed that's a bit odd is that I often get light "reflecting" off the screen. Most noticeably the bottom-left side of the monitor. Well it's either that or somehow the viewing angle is less on that area of the monitor (if you look directly at it the "light" goes away). But most of the time even in dark video games you can't tell. So I'm very happy.
all the facts
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Don't settle for defective merchandise.
Exchange until you are satisfied.
I went through 8 2407's.
Message Edited by all the facts on 11-05-2006 01:23 AM
Somnio
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Hi, well, mine thoes exactly the same effect. I bet is caused because the vision angles. If you take a look at the photo I posted, you can see that this unit also has the effect on the bottom-right area.
@all the facts: I opened up this thread just for consider this. The fact is that I've exchanged an unit that developed dead pixels and I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE OF THOUSE LITTLE FELLAS, because the problem proved to be really annoyng for my work and my mind integrity :P So, because Dell's dead pixel policy, exchange blindly this new unit can be a risk. That's why I want to know more about the backlight bleeding, I can live with it but I want to know how serius it is :)
Message Edited by Somnio on 11-05-2006 08:49 AM
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Two adjacent dead pixels is Dell policy and reason for any exchange at any time. Therefore any dead is always exchangeable at any time.
Backlight should be examined with all light s off in a room and put up a black test screen.
If your pic was taken with room light on it is of no value for the backlight test evaluation.
Not serious at all if it doesn't bother you.
Good Day:)
Message Edited by all the facts on 11-05-2006 04:53 PM
Somnio
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Somnio
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November 8th, 2006 01:00
2007WFP Rev2 Backlight Test
Technical information:
Environment: almost perfect dark.
Monitor's bright level: 50%
Camera exposure: 1/4 sec
Sensitivity: ISO 80
All the uniformity defects are not evident at nacked eye. The bleeding I was complaining is the small white area over the purple fringe you can see near the top-left corner of the screen.
KevinR100
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November 9th, 2006 03:00
Somnio
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November 9th, 2006 12:00
Saw the photo. If I am not to blind, I think that it shows a lttle bleeding top left, top right, & btm. right. Not too bad compared to some
Yes! I think thats is not bad compared to other monitors I saw and used. That's why I was curious about other users experiences on this model.
The top left bleeding is visible only on dark background on a dark room. The other ones are only evident raising the brightness to max (wich I will never do).
How does it perform on the other solid colors?
Pretty well, good uniformity and nothing evident coming form the edges.
I originally advised the return of it simply because if any scratches etc.
Oh, I see, well, is nothing too serius. Just a very small bump evident only if you rub the frame with your finger. Almost nothing. I was aware of it only because could be the causal of the bleeding problem, wich is not :)
yacoub80
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November 18th, 2006 11:00
It says REV A00 Made in Mexico.
I think I might have one dead pixel somewhere that I saw once while testing the monitor for dead pixels but I can't really find it since the pixel pitch is nice and tight.
Sure, it has the typical banding issues but I've noticed it in real-life use maybe a handful of times in the many months I've had this puppy.
Everything else about it I love. Great widescreen, nice black blacks, nice response/refresh time in games (thanks to S-IPS panel no doubt).
If I could buy a second one I would, though I have no real use for it. Hopefully this one will last me a longtime.
Somnio
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November 22nd, 2006 19:00
Can you check the backlight bleeding and compare it to my picture? Can be interesting to know if Dell made some changes on the monitor body after two revisions.
scaramonga
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November 23rd, 2006 00:00
Mine is REV A02 Made in Czech Republic.
Lot's of backlight bleeding!.....but it's a S-IPS panel.
I could change but what number from the 'lottery' will I get next?....
1. No backlight bleeding but an S-PVA panel?
2. Banding and an S-PVA panel?
3. Banding and an S-IPS panel?
4. Backlight bleeding and an S-PVA panel?
5. Banding, backlight bleeding and an S-PVA panel?
6. Banding, backlight bleeding and an S-IPS panel?
7. Mystery fault number 7?
8. A S-IPS that works as it should error free?
What's the chances of number '8' coming out? (10 million to 1 I guess)
Somnio
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November 26th, 2006 17:00