did you see the photo??? is shows the level of color saturation in CMYK space. then, you now the level of accuracy of this monitor. higher than that, only a monitor with S-IPS LCD panel, (like the dell 30") and for higher yet, an HC model will give more color saturation, for a more precise image. get it?
Thanks, but I don't think we're really talking about the same thing... and what is "HC"?
Saturation is not the issue, and looking at the image you provided unfortunately won't really give me an answer to my question. It's the colour accuracy from an actual user's point of view that I'd like to hear about. In other words, who has a professional press-printed cmyk piece that can be held up to originating files on their UltraSharp 2407wfp and tell me how accurate it turned out to be? We're comparing an RGB interpretation of a CMYK image to the actual printed CMYK piece.
K
ps I'm also considering a few other high-end models other than Dell, but I just wanted info on this one for now.
yes, what i said answer your question. accuracy on this model is very good (delta E 0.3) BUT, almost all monitor can be very precise. THE PROBLEM is you cannot see what you should if your monitor is unable to show all the colors (here come the saturarion limit)
SO, to have a monitor that show you the correct image, it must be not only capable of precision, but have a wide gamut (a.k.a color saturation)
GET IT?
using this monitor after calibration, you will get a very precise color/image. but, it will have a "limit" of colours it can be show.
about deltaE:
"It represents a measurement between the color requested and the one really displayed on the monitor"
Delta E = 3 the desired color is noticeably different from the one on the screen.
Delta E = 2 color quality is satisfactory but a graphic designer probably wouldn’t
Delta E = 1 the result is perfect
Sorry, I beg to differ. RGB gamut is much broader than CMYK gamut, so ANY RGB monitor will be capable of displaying the entire CMYK range. Capable, but not necessarily GOOD at it.
GET IT?
I can also find all sorts of graphs and reference charts about colour accuracy and gamut and such, but they don't answer the personal perspective of what I'm asking. What I want to hear about is a Graphic Designer's or PrePress person's experience comparing their on-screen cmyk interpretation with an actual side-by-side 4c INK printed project. Have you done this yourself, and can speak to that?
Since my initial post, I have had the opportunity to see this for myself on the 2407wfp, and it was pretty impressive, but I wanted others' feedback. Oh well, I think I'm just going to order it anyway and take my chances...
K
ps saturation and gamut are 2 different measurements altogether -
Gamut: The range of color a device can produce, or the range of color a color model can represent.
Saturation: The property of a color that makes it appear strongly colored. Black, white, and gray have no saturation. A red tomato has high saturation. Pastel colors have low saturation. Also known as Chroma. (This attribute of color is used in the HLS (Hue, Lightness, Saturation) and HSB (Hue, Saturation, Brightness) color models.
Malow
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the best you can get is with an S-IPS "HC" monitor...
Message Edited by Malow on 04-03-2007 11:48 PM
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Malow
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Keishaw
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Malow
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April 5th, 2007 17:00
yes, what i said answer your question. accuracy on this model is very good (delta E 0.3) BUT, almost all monitor can be very precise. THE PROBLEM is you cannot see what you should if your monitor is unable to show all the colors (here come the saturarion limit)
SO, to have a monitor that show you the correct image, it must be not only capable of precision, but have a wide gamut (a.k.a color saturation)
GET IT?
using this monitor after calibration, you will get a very precise color/image. but, it will have a "limit" of colours it can be show.
about deltaE:
"It represents a measurement between the color requested and the one really displayed on the monitor"
Delta E = 3 the desired color is noticeably different from the one on the screen.
Delta E = 2 color quality is satisfactory but a graphic designer probably wouldn’t
Delta E = 1 the result is perfect
Message Edited by Malow on 04-05-2007 01:35 PM
Message Edited by Malow on 04-05-2007 01:36 PM
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Message Edited by Keishaw on 04-05-2007 02:20 PM