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April 23rd, 2008 19:00

Banding is a different issue, and yes, the 2408 has it too.

 

For dithering, this article should help you out:

http://www.geocities.com/icecow88/970p-dithering-en.html

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April 23rd, 2008 19:00

Where did you get the info that 2408wfp is 6 bit?

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April 23rd, 2008 19:00

It's my assumption. What else would be causing the dithering artifacts?

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April 23rd, 2008 21:00

the 2408WFP is 8-bit, NOT 6-bit!! The most common color depths that users will see when dealing with PCs are 8-bit (256 colors), 16-bit (65,536 colors) and 24-bit (16.7 million colors). True color isr 24-bit color.

the 2408WFP is TrueColor, but few brands will list the actual per-color depth. If the manufacturer lists the color as 16.7 million colors (TrueColor-16.7M colors), it should be assumed that the display is 8-bit per-color. see these links

 

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_2408wfp.htm

 

http://compreviews.about.com/od/multimedia/a/LCDColor.htm

 

When referring to LCD panels, however, the number of levels that each color can render is used instead of color depth, and therefore panels are often either 6-bit or 8-bit. Make sense?

 

April 23rd, 2008 22:00

I am on my second 2408 in a week. I got my first last week, and it had the brightness with a pink tinge in the left quadrant. Technical assistance replaced it, and the replacement has the same issue, to a slightly lesser extent.

I like the monitor, other than the brightness issue. It is particularly distracting on a white background. I do not plan on asking for replacements until I get one that is perfect, but for this price it should be.

Liking the monitor, but being irritated with this issue presents a quandry. If anyone can speak with authority on the issue of an updated version, I would appreciate it.

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April 24th, 2008 03:00


@Gary Coyle wrote:

I love mine and i hadnt even got round to calibrating it before i decided to make the call, 95% of the screen was perfect but the niggling 5% of the left hand side which was lighter was something i just couldnt live with i have been promised it will be a revision im sent tomorrow.

 

I beleive the term is backlight bleeding which ive never come across before even on the cheap nasty Dells we use at work


This is NOT backlight bleeding. It's PVA washout. It is not possible to be fixed with any revision unless the type of panel changes. PVA --to--> IPS.
 
Greetings.
Message Edited by Argonauta on 04-24-2008 06:04 AM
Message Edited by Argonauta on 04-24-2008 06:06 AM

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April 24th, 2008 05:00


@HenryFarpolo wrote:

I am on my second 2408 in a week. I got my first last week, and it had the brightness with a pink tinge in the left quadrant. Technical assistance replaced it, and the replacement has the same issue, to a slightly lesser extent.


I have the exact same issues, Chris asked people to post their PPID number if you have the red tint problem.
in this thread
http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_monitor&thread.id=88494&view=by_date_ascending&page=3 

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April 24th, 2008 05:00

So you're saying that I paid $1150 for a monitor that can never be fixed? (=

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April 24th, 2008 16:00

As for the "bit issue", here's something I captured with my digital camera:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6690/frckp1.jpg

The image I photographed (top gradient):
http://www.geocities.com/icecow88/img/gray-gradients.tif

I also looked thru a rotating fan and by varying the speed I could make the pattern stand still (it's called strobe effect).

 

If it's an 8-bit panel, why is it using FRC?

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April 25th, 2008 00:00


@cashflow6 wrote:
So you're saying that I paid $1150 for a monitor that can never be fixed? (=

Yes. I am sorry. For that reason all are brighter on the left side, and no one is brighter on the right side. You can expect that it improves, but not that disappears completely (again, unless a new revision changes panel type).

 

Regards.

Message Edited by Argonauta on 04-25-2008 02:23 AM

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April 25th, 2008 01:00

WOW someone that speaks the truth and understands what is going on Argonauta is 100% right. Issues are

plagued from the type of panel that is used.....I can't imagine it getting better...ever 

 

 

Oh and they should change the panel type... why put IPS panel in 30in but new 24in use a MVA.... that

technology was originally developed in 1998 by Fujitsu!!! IPS was developed in 2006

 

Why would we want old technology in a 700.+ panel? 

Message Edited by sullys00net on 04-24-2008 10:30 PM

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April 25th, 2008 06:00

What panels are used in modern TVs?

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April 25th, 2008 07:00

I thought the 2408WFP was based on S-PVA from Samsung* and not on MVA. Both technologies are VA, but they do differ, right?

 

(*Same panel as the Samsung SyncMaster 245T which does not have uneven lighting across the screen! (But has problems of it's own, like buzzing power supplies on huge amounts of the shipped units - I had one which I returned and now I have a 2408WFP with it's own share of problems... Oh the joy of cheaply produced, premium priced displays...)

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April 25th, 2008 23:00

this is the best link and explains the differences.... I wish I had found the link before I purchased...

 

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types.php 

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April 26th, 2008 01:00

You obviously read my response to your MVA claim here. If you still believe it's MVA you should provide some evidence.

 

There's a better explanation of the technologies at TFT Central, and for anyone interested, an even more technical one at X-bit Labs.

 

 

Message Edited by gpro on 04-26-2008 02:25 AM
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