We don't know if it will work at the moment, Dell spare parts is not shipping the 9600pro as of yet. I know Somms has an expected ship date for his at the moment of 29th of January or so.
I have doubts as to whether it will work in the i8500 at the moment without a BIOS update, because the 9600pro may run too hot for it, above the shutdown threshold like the FX5650 did without modification. Time will tell.
@fhmdsyed wrote:
I see. But Doesn't the 9600 Mobility come with its own fan, and also I think it may be possible to upgrade the BIOS. Just contact Dell.
Yes, the M10 does come with its own fan.... as does the FX5650, as does the 4200go, etc. This helps, but doesn't stop it from gaining some heat... the fact of the matter is that the M10 simply runs hotter than any of the cards officially offered in the i8500 such as the 4200go. This may cause a problem with the BIOS's temperature cutoff point (shuts system down if temp reaches a certain point) as I mentioned earlier.
And you talk about upgrading the BIOS as if it was another piece of Hardware that you can buy and place in the machine. This is not so. The BIOS is an acronym for basic input/output system. The BIOS is built-in software that determines what a computer can do without accessing programs from a disk. It generally contains all the code required to control the keyboard, display, hard drives, serial communications, etc, etc.
Dell occasionally updates their BIOS software in the downloads section of this website, and so we wait. Until Dell decides to put up a BIOS update that offers additional Video Card support for the i8500 we may be stuck..... a call to dell asking for a new BIOS will not yield you any response but to "Look in the tech support sections downloads on our website".
However, as I said, we will have to wait and see. The M10 may function without a BIOS update, and we will all be happy. It may not, and we have to forget about it or wait and pray hopefully that Dell will offer support for this upgrade. Only time will tell.
Hopefully they will, and even if they don't, it is very likely the M10 will work anyways. Cooling isn't too much of a problem if you get a notebook cooler, I just got one, and my GPU temp fell 10 degrees.
Nice. Can you tell me where I can get a notebook cooler. There are some kids I know taht have coolers attached to their computer. For example this kid I know ahs his fridge attached to his computer (PC).
It has been out for a while in new i8600 systems, yes. But Dell spare parts often doesn't have stock of a new release part (such as a GPU) for a month or two after release because the first shipments go towards new systems, only when there is excess over orders of new systems do they make them available to spare parts customers. Soon though, hopefully by the end of this month or early next Spare parts will be able to ship this GPU (I know somms, another user on these boards, was able to order it late December.... but the order was postponed shipment until the 29th Jan or something).
why has no one tried it? it has been out for a little while. plus th 9600 is direct x 9 so it is way better than the geforce4. it is juts surprising that no one has done it.
These days it is not uncommon to have laptops with upgradeable graphics. This makes it easier not only on the consumer but also on the manufacturer who can use one motherboard with interchangeable graphics across a range of systems and simply offer different video cards in each... bulk manufacturing makes it cheaper for them this way. It is very easy to install and remove the Graphics card in the i8500, there are detailed instructions with pictures in the Service Manual which you can download from the following page:
It is still uncertain how stable the upgrade to the M10 in the i8500 is going to be, or whether it will work at all because of several issues.... and the fact that noone has successsfully ordered and installed the part in the i8500 to our knowledge is also part of the uncertainty . Hopefully by the end of this month or early next someone would have tried and posted the results here so keep your eyes open.
i thought that laptops couldn't be upgraded graphics card wise. i have a dell 8500 with a geforce card but i would LOVE to upgrade to the ati 9600. that would make playing games easier. anyways, is there really a way at all to install that on the 8500 laptop?
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We don't know if it will work at the moment, Dell spare parts is not shipping the 9600pro as of yet. I know Somms has an expected ship date for his at the moment of 29th of January or so.
I have doubts as to whether it will work in the i8500 at the moment without a BIOS update, because the 9600pro may run too hot for it, above the shutdown threshold like the FX5650 did without modification. Time will tell.
stu
fhmdsyed
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sakor1
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Yes, the M10 does come with its own fan.... as does the FX5650, as does the 4200go, etc. This helps, but doesn't stop it from gaining some heat... the fact of the matter is that the M10 simply runs hotter than any of the cards officially offered in the i8500 such as the 4200go. This may cause a problem with the BIOS's temperature cutoff point (shuts system down if temp reaches a certain point) as I mentioned earlier.
And you talk about upgrading the BIOS as if it was another piece of Hardware that you can buy and place in the machine. This is not so. The BIOS is an acronym for basic input/output system. The BIOS is built-in software that determines what a computer can do without accessing programs from a disk. It generally contains all the code required to control the keyboard, display, hard drives, serial communications, etc, etc.
Dell occasionally updates their BIOS software in the downloads section of this website, and so we wait. Until Dell decides to put up a BIOS update that offers additional Video Card support for the i8500 we may be stuck..... a call to dell asking for a new BIOS will not yield you any response but to "Look in the tech support sections downloads on our website".
However, as I said, we will have to wait and see. The M10 may function without a BIOS update, and we will all be happy. It may not, and we have to forget about it or wait and pray hopefully that Dell will offer support for this upgrade. Only time will tell.
stu
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sakor1
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It has been out for a while in new i8600 systems, yes. But Dell spare parts often doesn't have stock of a new release part (such as a GPU) for a month or two after release because the first shipments go towards new systems, only when there is excess over orders of new systems do they make them available to spare parts customers. Soon though, hopefully by the end of this month or early next Spare parts will be able to ship this GPU (I know somms, another user on these boards, was able to order it late December.... but the order was postponed shipment until the 29th Jan or something).
stu
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sakor1
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These days it is not uncommon to have laptops with upgradeable graphics. This makes it easier not only on the consumer but also on the manufacturer who can use one motherboard with interchangeable graphics across a range of systems and simply offer different video cards in each... bulk manufacturing makes it cheaper for them this way. It is very easy to install and remove the Graphics card in the i8500, there are detailed instructions with pictures in the Service Manual which you can download from the following page:
http://docs.us.dell.com/docs/systems/ins8500/en/index.htm
It is still uncertain how stable the upgrade to the M10 in the i8500 is going to be, or whether it will work at all because of several issues.... and the fact that noone has successsfully ordered and installed the part in the i8500 to our knowledge is also part of the uncertainty
. Hopefully by the end of this month or early next someone would have tried and posted the results here so keep your eyes open.
stu
Message Edited by sakor1 on 01-24-2004 06:24 PM
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Does anyone know where to get a notebook cooler?
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