Are you sure you don't have the pink tint issue? I too have a monitor from januari 2010 made in Czech and it clearly has the pink tint issue. I did notice some presets mask the issue a bit. Try using the preset sRGB, Warm or Custom (with boosted red) on a white or grey page to see the issue better. I also noticed that in the first couple of minutes after starting up this monitor I dont see any pink tint. This might be because my eyes are adjusting to the monitor.
Are you sure you don't have the pink tint issue? I too have a monitor from januari 2010 made in Czech and it clearly has the pink tint issue. I did notice some presets mask the issue a bit. Try using the preset sRGB, Warm or Custom (with boosted red) on a white or grey page to see the issue better. I also noticed that in the first couple of minutes after starting up this monitor I dont see any pink tint. This might be because my eyes are adjusting to the monitor.
The monitor has been working for whole day.
I found some pictures about the tinting issues in this very same topic (or maybe was it in the hardforum.com) - and looking at those pictures i tried all different settings.
It isn't about a setting, but about the panel. If you have the pink tint issue you will see it on the right side of your screen. Try increasing the red value in the preset Custom Color to enhance it and view a solid color white or light grey page for 5 minutes straight. If you truly have a tint free panel than thats great news. I've seen a couple of user claiming to have a tint free monitor and a week later complaining that they do have the tint issue.
It isn't about a setting, but about the panel. If you have the pink tint issue you will see it on the right side of your screen. Try increasing the red value in the preset Custom Color to enhance it and view a solid color white or light grey page for 5 minutes straight. If you truly have a tint free panel than thats great news. I've seen a couple of user claiming to have a tint free monitor and a week later complaining that they do have the tint issue.
Mine is Czech Dec 2009, ive had mine for two months now and tried in all modes with different color backgrounds and i can just not see any tinting issue.
I do have a fair share of IPS-glow tho, thats the only thing that bothers me a little, its pretty viewable on series and movies with black borders or in dark scenes..
Another user commented that it's hard to capture the pink tint issue on camera. He needed to boost the saturation value of the photo to make it more visible. You might have more luck taking the picture in a complete dark room. On your photos I see a window on the left and that could influence the photo. You might have more luck taking a photo of this forum maximized with the grey bars on the side. Other than that it seems you don't have the pink tint issue.
Another issue i'm having is the IPS glow or LCD glow. When sitting in a dark room watching a movie the glow is clearly visible. A black background looks more like light grey/greyish/blueish and when viewing the monitor from an angle it gets worse. My old TN monitor didn't had this problem. It's like an 100% uniform backlight bleed. I think all U2410 monitors suffer from this problem, but I don't understand why reviews didn't mention this. They surely must have tested this monitor in a dark room.This monitor is a 1 out of 5 for watching movies.
For the eye it looks clear white or gray - dunno why camera makes them pinkish. ---- Maybe I'm taking the pictures wrong??
Another user commented that it's hard to capture the pink tint issue on camera. He needed to boost the saturation value of the photo to make it more visible. You might have more luck taking the picture in a complete dark room. On your photos I see a window on the left and that could influence the photo. You might have more luck taking a photo of this forum maximized with the grey bars on the side. Other than that it seems you don't have the pink tint issue.
Another issue i'm having is the IPS glow or LCD glow. When sitting in a dark room watching a movie the glow is clearly visible. A black background looks more like light grey/greyish/blueish and when viewing the monitor from an angle it gets worse. My old TN monitor didn't had this problem. It's like an 100% uniform backlight bleed. I think all U2410 monitors suffer from this problem, but I don't understand why reviews didn't mention this. They surely must have tested this monitor in a dark room.This monitor is a 1 out of 5 for watching movies.
As I need to calibrate the monitor anyway, I will sure measure color values in every corner of the monitor - as Dell should have had done in the factory, to provide significantly better product!
True, but it's likely a cost-saving measure by Dell. You can get a monitor calibrated at several points, but it will cost more. Since the U2410 is almost always on sale, or available for less than its listed retail, you can almost get three of them for one NEC 2490WUXi for example...so perspective is needed.
If I had a monitor with visible tint, that would be one thing. A monitor with some slight screen uniformity? Acceptable IMO, for a sub-$500 IPS panel.
wanamees - you could likely be obsessing at this point. Post a pic of the monitor at default values (brightness, contrast at 50) and at sRGB. White screen.
You probably are right :emotion-2: (I also read your previous post)
As I didn't saw any faults when I used it for the first days.
As I also poster picture with 50/50 Brightness/contrast and R @90 in custom mode.
As I need to calibrate the monitor anyway, I will sure measure color values in every corner of the monitor - as Dell should have had done in the factory, to provide significantly better product!
Exchanges will not be offered for this Tint complaint since a dispatch of another display will not solve the issue as this is a normal panel characteristic and not a hardware failure.
Another user commented that it's hard to capture the pink tint issue on camera. He needed to boost the saturation value of the photo to make it more visible. You might have more luck taking the picture in a complete dark room. On your photos I see a window on the left and that could influence the photo. You might have more luck taking a photo of this forum maximized with the grey bars on the side. Other than that it seems you don't have the pink tint issue.
Another issue i'm having is the IPS glow or LCD glow. When sitting in a dark room watching a movie the glow is clearly visible. A black background looks more like light grey/greyish/blueish and when viewing the monitor from an angle it gets worse. My old TN monitor didn't had this problem. It's like an 100% uniform backlight bleed. I think all U2410 monitors suffer from this problem, but I don't understand why reviews didn't mention this. They surely must have tested this monitor in a dark room.This monitor is a 1 out of 5 for watching movies.
Guys - the IPS glow is a characteristic of ALL IPS panels. It is normal. In order to reduce and/or eliminate it a very few select high-end manufacturers have added a polarizing filter to the screen. One such a monitor is the NEC 2490WUXi, which is no longer made and retails for over $1000. The newer version of this monitor does not feature a polarizer. So...long story short, it's not a problem.
@ wanamees and co - As to going to extremes to look for other defects, I'm going to quote myself from another forum as I can't be bothered to re-type it...
These forums are the very definition of a double-edged sword. On one hand, you can get good advice about potential REAL problems with monitors such as the dithering in the U2410, which has thankfully been fixed.
On the other hand, these forums can turn even a mild-mannered, relaxed individual into an obsessive-compulsive, anxiety-ridden, self-trained monitor fault finding technician - who spends hours peering into the screen at bizarre angles while hanging upside-down from the ceiling, shining UV beams into refractory lenses at the anti-glare coating. Hunting for dead pixels with your eye an inch from the screen, adding 'Lagom' to your Favorites bar replacing 'High Def Babes', and calculating input lag with a degree of accuracy that would make Patek Philippe proud.
So...in short, if you don't see any tinting, stop looking for it. Any large LCD screen will have some screen uniformity issues, simple as that. If you can't see it normally, relax and enjoy! :emotion-1:
True, but it's likely a cost-saving measure by Dell. You can get a monitor calibrated at several points, but it will cost more. Since the U2410 is almost always on sale, or available for less than its listed retail, you can almost get three of them for one NEC 2490WUXi for example...so perspective is needed.
If I had a monitor with visible tint, that would be one thing. A monitor with some slight screen uniformity? Acceptable IMO, for a sub-$500 IPS panel.
No, I don't work for Dell. :emotion-5:
As you can see from the u2410 series, it was clearly a wrong place to cut costs.
Prices in Europe > Estonia are different from prices in the US - unfortunately.
1USD = 11,5EEK
This Dell monitor cost me 8500EEK = 739USD
This NEC is in storage and rated 11900EEK = 1034USD
( http://www.ox.ee/est/product/176343 )
Difference in price is 295USD (not three times)
So maybe I made little bit wrong choice - as I wouldn't bothered paying some extra bucks.
Only problem I see atm is that the NEC doesn't seem to have HDMI (as i'm using laptopt and it doesn't have DVI)
wanamees
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February 14th, 2010 11:00
Greets from Estonia,
Ordered my monitor on thursday this week and recived it on friday.
It was delivered from Lietuva storage.
On box and on monitor is REV A00.
The CD is REV A02 - September 2009.
On the monitor tag is said, that the monitor was produced in the January 2010 - Made in Czhech.
I read through the whole topic and made every possible test in every possible configuration with different Preset Modes.
So it seems to me, that all the newer monitors (also in the Europe) are updated and working correctly, despite the older revision stickers.
edit: I'm using this monitor on my laptop through HDMI cable. Thus I haven't tried it on DVI.
edit2: http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1441159&highlight=ISP&page=85
I checked from factory menu and I have M1F191 (REV A00 has M1F190).
So my REV A00 sticker monitor is definetly REV A01!
Energie9
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February 14th, 2010 12:00
Are you sure you don't have the pink tint issue? I too have a monitor from januari 2010 made in Czech and it clearly has the pink tint issue. I did notice some presets mask the issue a bit. Try using the preset sRGB, Warm or Custom (with boosted red) on a white or grey page to see the issue better. I also noticed that in the first couple of minutes after starting up this monitor I dont see any pink tint. This might be because my eyes are adjusting to the monitor.
wanamees
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February 14th, 2010 13:00
The monitor has been working for whole day.
I found some pictures about the tinting issues in this very same topic (or maybe was it in the hardforum.com) - and looking at those pictures i tried all different settings.
No red/pink tint at any setting !!
Energie9
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February 14th, 2010 14:00
It isn't about a setting, but about the panel. If you have the pink tint issue you will see it on the right side of your screen. Try increasing the red value in the preset Custom Color to enhance it and view a solid color white or light grey page for 5 minutes straight. If you truly have a tint free panel than thats great news. I've seen a couple of user claiming to have a tint free monitor and a week later complaining that they do have the tint issue.
J0lle
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February 14th, 2010 22:00
Mine is Czech Dec 2009, ive had mine for two months now and tried in all modes with different color backgrounds and i can just not see any tinting issue.
I do have a fair share of IPS-glow tho, thats the only thing that bothers me a little, its pretty viewable on series and movies with black borders or in dark scenes..
wanamees
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February 15th, 2010 03:00
Well I looked for faulty screen pictures (I dont know how they make exactly those pictures)
http://en.community.dell.com/forums/t/19297120.aspx
Here are my pictures made with default setting only RED is on 90.
white
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/white.JPG
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/white_menu.JPG
gray
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/gray_menu.JPG
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/gray.JPG
For the eye it looks clear white or gray - dunno why camera makes them pinkish.
----
Maybe I'm taking the pictures wrong??
guycarmeli
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February 15th, 2010 03:00
Could someone please explain to me how to unsubscribe from this topic?
I follow the link at the of the email which just brings me to this thread, and I can't find an unsubscribe option anywhere.
Thanks
wanamees
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February 15th, 2010 05:00
Well this doesn't look so good anymore :S
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/white_sat.jpg
I'll take another set of pictures when it's dark.
I'm also trying to get calibrator ASAP to confirm/disconfirm my monitor situation.
Energie9
19 Posts
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February 15th, 2010 05:00
Another user commented that it's hard to capture the pink tint issue on camera. He needed to boost the saturation value of the photo to make it more visible. You might have more luck taking the picture in a complete dark room. On your photos I see a window on the left and that could influence the photo. You might have more luck taking a photo of this forum maximized with the grey bars on the side. Other than that it seems you don't have the pink tint issue.
Another issue i'm having is the IPS glow or LCD glow. When sitting in a dark room watching a movie the glow is clearly visible. A black background looks more like light grey/greyish/blueish and when viewing the monitor from an angle it gets worse. My old TN monitor didn't had this problem. It's like an 100% uniform backlight bleed. I think all U2410 monitors suffer from this problem, but I don't understand why reviews didn't mention this. They surely must have tested this monitor in a dark room.This monitor is a 1 out of 5 for watching movies.
Gecks
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February 15th, 2010 06:00
True, but it's likely a cost-saving measure by Dell. You can get a monitor calibrated at several points, but it will cost more. Since the U2410 is almost always on sale, or available for less than its listed retail, you can almost get three of them for one NEC 2490WUXi for example...so perspective is needed.
If I had a monitor with visible tint, that would be one thing. A monitor with some slight screen uniformity? Acceptable IMO, for a sub-$500 IPS panel.
No, I don't work for Dell. :emotion-5:
wanamees
7 Posts
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February 15th, 2010 06:00
You probably are right :emotion-2: (I also read your previous post)
As I didn't saw any faults when I used it for the first days.
As I also poster picture with 50/50 Brightness/contrast and R @90 in custom mode.
Maybe this is in normal limits.
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/pink/white_custom_R90.JPG
As I need to calibrate the monitor anyway, I will sure measure color values in every corner of the monitor - as Dell should have had done in the factory, to provide significantly better product!
DELL-Chris M
Community Manager
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February 15th, 2010 06:00
Energie9, wanamees, All,
Exchanges will not be offered for this Tint complaint since a dispatch of another display will not solve the issue as this is a normal panel characteristic and not a hardware failure.
Gecks
41 Posts
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February 15th, 2010 06:00
Guys - the IPS glow is a characteristic of ALL IPS panels. It is normal. In order to reduce and/or eliminate it a very few select high-end manufacturers have added a polarizing filter to the screen. One such a monitor is the NEC 2490WUXi, which is no longer made and retails for over $1000. The newer version of this monitor does not feature a polarizer. So...long story short, it's not a problem.
@ wanamees and co - As to going to extremes to look for other defects, I'm going to quote myself from another forum as I can't be bothered to re-type it...
These forums are the very definition of a double-edged sword. On one hand, you can get good advice about potential REAL problems with monitors such as the dithering in the U2410, which has thankfully been fixed.
On the other hand, these forums can turn even a mild-mannered, relaxed individual into an obsessive-compulsive, anxiety-ridden, self-trained monitor fault finding technician - who spends hours peering into the screen at bizarre angles while hanging upside-down from the ceiling, shining UV beams into refractory lenses at the anti-glare coating. Hunting for dead pixels with your eye an inch from the screen, adding 'Lagom' to your Favorites bar replacing 'High Def Babes', and calculating input lag with a degree of accuracy that would make Patek Philippe proud.
So...in short, if you don't see any tinting, stop looking for it. Any large LCD screen will have some screen uniformity issues, simple as that. If you can't see it normally, relax and enjoy! :emotion-1:
wanamees
7 Posts
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February 15th, 2010 06:00
Its not dark yet, but I removed the winwow factor.
Very clearly visible if Brightness/Contrast also boosted to 100.
Photo
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/pink/w_R100_B_C_100_3.JPG
with HUE boost
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/pink/w_R100_B_C_100.JPG
Photo with 50/50 B/C & R90
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/pink/white_custom_R90.JPG
Other pics.
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/pink/dell_forum_adobeRGB_HUE.JPG
http://www.privaatdisain.ee/_dell/colors/pink/white_custom_R90_2.JPG
So I guess warrantl case?
wanamees
7 Posts
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February 15th, 2010 07:00
As you can see from the u2410 series, it was clearly a wrong place to cut costs.
Prices in Europe > Estonia are different from prices in the US - unfortunately.
1USD = 11,5EEK
This Dell monitor cost me 8500EEK = 739USD
This NEC is in storage and rated 11900EEK = 1034USD
( http://www.ox.ee/est/product/176343 )
Difference in price is 295USD (not three times)
So maybe I made little bit wrong choice - as I wouldn't bothered paying some extra bucks.
Only problem I see atm is that the NEC doesn't seem to have HDMI (as i'm using laptopt and it doesn't have DVI)