see the link in my sig for the download to speed bootup? It also offers the ability to trace a bootup and see how long each thing takes to load.

Run a trace of a cold start when it's taking 3 minutes. It should give you some idea of what is lagging.

Thank you much for your reply, the tool indeed told me what was going on:

 

308.99 seconds - network delay - winlogon.exe - Mup.sys

 

Now any idea what I can do to "speed this up"?

Thank you,

SSS

here is what mup.sys is:

A Multiple UNC (uniform naming convention) Provider (MUP) is a network resource locator that runs in kernel-mode memory in Windows NT. The types of resources it locates are based on UNC. Applications use either UNC names or the WNet API to access resources on the network.

UNC names are a method of identifying share names on a network. A typical UNC name begins with two backslashes followed by a server name: \\server\share\subdirectory\filename

WNet is a part of the Win32 API set that allows applications running on Windows NT workstations to connect to multiple networks, browse resources, and transfer data between computers on other networks. File Manager is an example of how the WNet functionality is implemented to provide network browsing and connections to other computers.

The MUP is a program unlike TDI and NDIS boundary layers. The MUP receives commands containing UNC names from applications and sends the name to each registered UNC provider, LAN Manager workstation, and any others that are installed. When a provider identifies a UNC name as it's own, the MUP automatically redirects future instances of that name to that provider.

Registry information about the MUP is in the following path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Mup\

(taken from the MS KB)

This would seem to indicate that it's searching for netowork shares at login, or perhaps a domain controller. I can think of 2 ways to get around that- creating a new user that doesn't have the same network profile, or creating a new hardware profile. If you don't need filesharing at work, the simplest thing to do is disable netbios over TCP/IP entirely. Do you have a firewall? Your 600m may be sending discover packets that the firewall absorbs, and windows doesn't login until it times out.

Also, you can try running that same app from my sig and optimizing your system. Hopefully it will shift the netlogin to the end of the cycle, allowing you to login and do stuff while it's delayed with the MUP process. edit: No, that's not possible. go to start--> help and support and then search for MUP. It will bring up an 'startup process order' result that basically says that MUP starts first, before everything (which allows remote login capibility)

I found these (possibly) helpful KB articles too

KB150807

KB171386

Message Edited by ryri on 08-06-2003 11:57 PM

How do I do that? I only have the one logon option (my admin account) and all I get is the password field.

Thanks,

SSS

I only have Windows XP home, but if XP professional works like Windows 2000 the following should work.

If you logon using the Welcome screen (User icon, then password) you will have to change the way user logon.  Go to the Control Panel and select User Accounts.  Next select "Change the way users log on and off".  Click on the option to use the Welcome Screen to uncheck it.

Next time you logon you should see fields for user name and password.  There may also be a field with the option of what to logon to (Domain or local machine).  If this field doesn't exist, you may have to click on a button to expand your options to display this field.

If this doesn't work, let me know and I will do a little research to get you the correct procedure.

Cliff

Thanks Cliff. The new logon screen did not give a domain option but my network boot is 54 seconds and my non-network boot was 31 seconds. The real test will be when I get home - where I recorded the 5+ minute boot - in the presense of my wireless network (cable modem).

I'll post the results.

Cheers,

SSS

if it still boots slowly when you get home, do me a favor:

open a command prompt window and type "route print" and paste the results here.

Nope, still killer slow at home. My wireless network must be holding that process open.

 

As soon as I can FTP up a screen shot of the route print I will do so.

Thanks,
SSS

Open the cmd window, right click and hit select all. Now, just hit enter, and it will copy all of the text to the clipboard

if you right click on my computer and go to properties, and then to computer name, you can see the workgroup/domain the computer belongs to. If there is no domain name listed, it's not trying to login to a domain controller.

what wireless AP/router are you using?

Message Edited by ryri on 08-08-2003 05:36 PM

Alright, silly XP tricks. I was wondering why CTRL-Y wasn't working - hey it works in SAP....

 

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 0b db a6 2b fc ...... Broadcom 570x Gigabit Integrated Controller - Pa
cket Scheduler Miniport
0x3 ...00 90 4b 27 f6 2c ...... Dell TrueMobile 1400 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Car
d - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x4 ...44 45 53 54 42 00 ...... Nortel IPSECSHM Adapter - Packet Scheduler Minip
ort
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination        Netmask          Gateway       Interface  Metric
          0.0.0.0          0.0.0.0      192.168.2.1     192.168.2.2       30
        127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0        127.0.0.1       127.0.0.1       1
      192.168.2.0    255.255.255.0      192.168.2.2     192.168.2.2       30
      192.168.2.2  255.255.255.255        127.0.0.1       127.0.0.1       30
    192.168.2.255  255.255.255.255      192.168.2.2     192.168.2.2       30
        224.0.0.0        240.0.0.0      192.168.2.2     192.168.2.2       30
  255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255      192.168.2.2               2       1
  255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255      192.168.2.2     192.168.2.2       1
  255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255      192.168.2.2               4       1
Default Gateway:       192.168.2.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
  None

The router is a DELL Truemobile 1184.

 

Thanks,

SSS

Nope, no domain name, just a workgroup.

0x4 ...44 45 53 54 42 00 ...... Nortel IPSECSHM Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport

I think that's a component of the Nortel VPN client. And it seems to be the device of choice for all traffic, according to the interface list.

Assuming there's a VPN client, what happens if you uninstall it?

Jim

well, jimw beat me to it, but yes, it looks like that interface seems to be the problem

(don't worry if it's required for work- there are settings to change to allow it to work at work without slowing down bootup at home- but it's simpler to uninstall it now, to see it that is the problem)

I've uninstalled VPN with no change. Does anyone know how to force logon to local machine only? Maybe this will help....

 

Thank you,

SSS